SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Jeff why not contact a granite memorial co. and see what they recommend,
you'll have it from the top.

On 9/24/2011 8:30 PM, jeff_wisnia wrote:


SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the
like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

I bet that was plumber's putty!

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Prep both surfaces well (scratch up the granite good) and
use something like PC-7 (glass- or aluminum-filled epoxy),
buttered nice and thick and completely covering the bonding
surfaces without air pockets. It would be really good if
you could take a portable vacuum chamber with you to de-air
the epoxy after mixing.

--
croy

On 9/24/2011 9:37 PM, jimmy wrote:
Jeff why not contact a granite memorial co. and see what they recommend,
you'll have it from the top.


Agree with calling the monument company, but I would also ask the
cemetery sexton or business office, if it has one. They may have a
regular guy in place that takes care of minor upkeep like that. I'd
think any of the modern construction adhesive, like outdoor-rated liquid
nails, or maybe the stuff the big-box sells for keeping the capstones
from sliding around on retaining walls, would work.

--
aem sends...

jeff_wisnia wrote:
SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
(It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in
the grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave
up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel
like some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface
it will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
the like.
http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

Silicone

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LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

A Portland cement based product such as used to secure towel racks (and
TP holders) in tile walls is likely most compatible with what was used
in the first place.

On 9/24/2011 8:30 PM, jeff_wisnia wrote:


SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the
like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

If you are paying for maintenance (or have already paid for perpetual
care) on the grave site, I would think that the cemetery would reinstall
it for you.
--
Peace,
bobJ

jeff_wisnia wrote:

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.


Is it possible to physically mount the object, say with bronze pins into an
epoxy-filled hole. Same technique as used in the Big Dig to mount ceiling
panels - and we all know how successful that was.

On Sep 24, 7:30*pm, jeff_wisnia
wrote:
SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Any common two part slow cure epoxy will work just fine, assuming
commonsense surface preparation. The preferred surface cleaner for
epoxy for years has been acetone available at any box store paint
department. The epoxy stone/concrete panels in the Boston tunnel
applied that way are still doing fine.
Common masking tape will work with epoxies since the non adhesive side
has a mold release coating.

Joe

Joe

"jeff_wisnia" wrote in message
...


SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's a
Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new year
begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out of
its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention "stone"
and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open to
suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

I admit to not reading all the replies so pardon me if I repeat.

I feel pretty sure this is something you want to do right. In the absence
of a better suggestion, I would use the glue that comes in a caulk tube that
is made for stone wall cap installations. My neighbor had some step stones
glued down a few years back and it has held up well to foot traffic. In
your situation, I think it would outlive you.



--
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Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

"Colbyt" wrote in
m:


"jeff_wisnia" wrote in message
...


SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
(It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the
Jewish new year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it
in the grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave
up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel
like some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface
it will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm
open to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

I admit to not reading all the replies so pardon me if I repeat.

I feel pretty sure this is something you want to do right. In the
absence of a better suggestion, I would use the glue that comes in a
caulk tube that is made for stone wall cap installations. My neighbor
had some step stones glued down a few years back and it has held up
well to foot traffic. In your situation, I think it would outlive
you.




or Liquid Nails construction adhesive.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:30:08 -0400, "Colbyt"
wrote:

I feel pretty sure this is something you want to do right. In the absence
of a better suggestion, I would use the glue that comes in a caulk tube that
is made for stone wall cap installations. My neighbor had some step stones
glued down a few years back and it has held up well to foot traffic. In
your situation, I think it would outlive you.

Urethane caulk. You can build cars, trains and buses with it. Sticks
to a ball of lard. Chew it off if you get it on your fingers. It
never comes out of clothing...

Maybe 8 dollars a tube.

I've had tremendous success with Pheno-Seal Adhesive calking (Home
Depot/Lowes). Works on and with just about anything
MLD
"jeff_wisnia" wrote in message
...


SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's a
Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new year
begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out of
its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention "stone"
and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open to
suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a two
part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on something
at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be adhered, mix
a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us will.

On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a two
part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on something
at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be adhered, mix
a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us will.

That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.

NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.

nate

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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:32:38 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today (It's
a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the Jewish new
year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found it in the
grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally gave up
and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible and feel like
some sort of "plaster".

The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm open
to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a two
part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on something
at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be adhered, mix
a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us will.

That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.

NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.

nate

Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.

DFBonnett wrote in
:

On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:32:38 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
(It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the
Jewish new year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found
it in the grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally
gave up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible
and feel like some sort of "plaster".

probably tile grout.


The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the
surface it will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm
open to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a
two part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on
something at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be
adhered, mix a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us
will.

That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.

NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.

JB-Weld is RUNNY,on a vertical surface like a headstone,you'll have drips.
it also cures slower in cooler weather.
I would not recommend it in this application.



nate

Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.


I'd use Liquid Nails construction adhesive. simple and easy,no mixing.
it's a strong bond to most materials,weather-resistant.
or you could use contact cement,it sets fast once the two pieces are mated.
also simple and easy.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:56:35 -0500, Jim Yanik
wrote:

DFBonnett wrote in
:

On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:32:38 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
(It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the
Jewish new year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found
it in the grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally
gave up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible
and feel like some sort of "plaster".

probably tile grout.


The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the
surface it will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm
open to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a
two part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on
something at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be
adhered, mix a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us
will.

That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.

NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.

JB-Weld is RUNNY,on a vertical surface like a headstone,you'll have drips.
it also cures slower in cooler weather.
I would not recommend it in this application.



nate

Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.


I'd use Liquid Nails construction adhesive. simple and easy,no mixing.
it's a strong bond to most materials,weather-resistant.
or you could use contact cement,it sets fast once the two pieces are mated.
also simple and easy.


It would be runny only if you apply it too thick.
YMMV

On 10/16/2011 08:48 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:56:35 -0500, Jim
wrote:

wrote in
:

On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:32:38 -0400, Nate
wrote:

On 10/02/2011 09:13 AM, DFBonnett wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:30:40 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote:



SWMBO and I were visiting family graves at a nearby cemetary today
(It's a Jewish tradition to pay such visits the week before the
Jewish new year begins.)

The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen
out of its recess in her granite tombstone and fortunately I found
it in the grass alongside the stone.

Whatever had been holding it in place for about 60 years finally
gave up and let go. The remains of it in the recess are frangible
and feel like some sort of "plaster".

probably tile grout.


The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the
surface it will be attached to is smooth granite.

The "This to That" website isn't very helpfull, they don't mention
"stone" and their references to ceramic refer to broken dishes and
the like.

http://www.thistothat.com/

I'm thinking some type of epoxy would probably work best, but I'm
open to suggestions.

Thanks guys,

Jeff


JB Weld. Available at Home Depot and just about everywhere. It's a
two part adhesive so you'd have to mix it on site. Practice on
something at home to get the feel of it, clean up both sides to be
adhered, mix a batch, then apply. It will last longer than any of us
will.

That would be my first thought, but apropos of my last post, I had
excellent luck gluing two pieces of floor tile together with Loctite
brand 5-minute heavy duty epoxy.

NB: it really doesn't set up in 5 minutes; it just becomes unworkable
after 5 minutes, so you need to jig the two pieces together somehow.
The same goes for JB-weld, but that product doesn't even advertise
itself as fast setting.

JB-Weld is RUNNY,on a vertical surface like a headstone,you'll have drips.
it also cures slower in cooler weather.
I would not recommend it in this application.



nate

Duct tape should hold it in place for the requisite cure time.


I'd use Liquid Nails construction adhesive. simple and easy,no mixing.
it's a strong bond to most materials,weather-resistant.
or you could use contact cement,it sets fast once the two pieces are mated.
also simple and easy.


It would be runny only if you apply it too thick.
YMMV

Or PC-7 is essentially a stiffer version of JB-weld.

nate

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On 9/24/2011 7:30 PM, jeff_wisnia wrote:
....
The oval ceramic tile with her grandmother's photo on it had fallen out
of its recess in her granite tombstone...
The back surface of the oval ceramic tile is unglazed and the surface it
will be attached to is smooth granite.
...
...I'm open to suggestions.

....

Haven't read all the other suggestions but didn't see what I'd go
with--a clear or black silicone adhesive. One of the automotive trim or
window ones will work perfectly for the purpose.

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