"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.

On Apr 21, 8:18*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. *Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...-light-bulbs-c...

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.

Millions of products emit chemicals and off gas when new, Thats why I
eat Beans.

+On 04/21/11 09:18 am, HeyBub wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.

Since CFLs contain printed-circuit boards that will get warm, there may
indeed be some diffusion of minute amounts of chemicals into the air --
but the same probably goes for your TV, radio, DVD player, computer, and
all those wall warts that you have powering various devices.

Perce

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:18:59 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.




Someone's thoughtful reply:

I've been searching the web for the actual study, or even an abstract.
I'd like to know the exact methodology of the test, the conditions of
the lab, if the instruments were properly calibrated, and most
critically, what controls were used.

Nothing.

Did he test only one source of light, or several?

Until we can see the actual published report, this has absolutely no
scientific value. This is cold-fusion.

But it shows an interesting response; people with scientific
backgrounds aren't going haywire over it, people with no real
training, no understanding of science or biology are going nuts.

On 4/21/2011 9:18 AM, HeyBub wrote:
"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.




Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

On 04/21/11 11:49 am, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html


Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.
' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Perce

On 4/21/2011 12:36 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 11:49 am, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html



Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.
' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Perce

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

Frank wrote:

On 4/21/2011 12:36 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 11:49 am, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html



Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.
' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Perce

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

Further, if the greenies live in the "dark" burning candles, it will
greatly increase the chances of them and their hellspawn dying in a
house fire and thus removing them and their ignorance of science from
the gene pool. This also seems to work to some extent with religious
kooks.

"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

Frank wrote:

On 4/21/2011 12:36 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 11:49 am, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on
for
extended periods, particularly near someone's head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html



Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.
' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are
all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the
greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Perce

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

Further, if the greenies live in the "dark" burning candles, it will
greatly increase the chances of them and their hellspawn dying in a
house fire and thus removing them and their ignorance of science from
the gene pool. This also seems to work to some extent with religious
kooks.

Vironuts/Greenies are reigious kooks..They worship Gia or Mother Earth and
their Christmas is Earth Day...

HeyBub wrote:
"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.




Everything causes cancer. Everybody has cancer, just not active.
Everything needs a trigger.



--
If your doctor isn't taking new patients,
he ain't curing any of them.

"LSMFT" wrote in message ...

HeyBub wrote:
"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.




Everything causes cancer. Everybody has cancer, just not active.
Everything needs a trigger.
===========

Everyone has cancer *cells*.

On 4/21/2011 8:18 AM, HeyBub wrote:
"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.



I need to start a viral pseudo science hoaxmail stating in the most
official language, graphics and sources that texting causes sterility.
The youngsters who are products of the government spoiled education
system will be so happy because they are now protected from infections.

TDD

On Apr 21, 9:08*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 4/21/2011 8:18 AM, HeyBub wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. *Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...-light-bulbs-c...

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.

I need to start a viral pseudo science hoaxmail stating in the most
official language, graphics and sources that texting causes sterility.
The youngsters who are products of the government spoiled education
system will be so happy because they are now protected from infections.

TDD

You got that right about the "government spoiled education system" but
maybe not for the reasons you think.

The Christian Fundamentalistshave infiltrated the Government, from
White House (Bush; maybe Obama? I hope not) to the State Department to
the Military.* to that whorehouse called Congress, to state and local
authorities.

Far from teaching young people factually how their bodies work -- like
those European countries that have such school programs (and much
lower rates of disasters) -- we pay taxes to have fantastic,
unscientific legends promulgated by the Radical Religious Right.

Ex: The Bush "abstinence only" programs cost us a lot of money and
did absolutely no good. In fact, reliable research shows that there
are MORE unwanted pregnancies, STDs and AIDs among these poor
youngsters who have been brought up on Fundamentalist spin. Add to
that the current campaign by the Congressional Mad Dogs to de-fund
Planned Parenthood, and you have the perfect recipe for disaster.
Unwanted babies; sexually-transmitted diseases, and the horror of AIDS
that ruins a young person's life till the premature end.

*check out Military Religious Freedom Foundation MRFF.org. You will
be shocked.

On 4/22/2011 11:57 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Apr 21, 9:08 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 4/21/2011 8:18 AM, HeyBub wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for
extended periods, particularly near someone s head, as they emit poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...-light-bulbs-c...

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when switched
on.

Whatever.

I need to start a viral pseudo science hoaxmail stating in the most
official language, graphics and sources that texting causes sterility.
The youngsters who are products of the government spoiled education
system will be so happy because they are now protected from infections.

TDD

You got that right about the "government spoiled education system" but
maybe not for the reasons you think.

The Christian Fundamentalistshave infiltrated the Government, from
White House (Bush; maybe Obama? I hope not) to the State Department to
the Military.* to that whorehouse called Congress, to state and local
authorities.

Far from teaching young people factually how their bodies work -- like
those European countries that have such school programs (and much
lower rates of disasters) -- we pay taxes to have fantastic,
unscientific legends promulgated by the Radical Religious Right.

Ex: The Bush "abstinence only" programs cost us a lot of money and
did absolutely no good. In fact, reliable research shows that there
are MORE unwanted pregnancies, STDs and AIDs among these poor
youngsters who have been brought up on Fundamentalist spin. Add to
that the current campaign by the Congressional Mad Dogs to de-fund
Planned Parenthood, and you have the perfect recipe for disaster.
Unwanted babies; sexually-transmitted diseases, and the horror of AIDS
that ruins a young person's life till the premature end.

*check out Military Religious Freedom Foundation MRFF.org. You will
be shocked.

Well, the country was founded by religious wackos, they came in boats.
A friends' mother worked for the local board of education here in the
country of Alabamastan and she was shocked and amused that there were
people running things who believed that the Earth was less than 4,000
years old and that man and Dinosaurs occupied the planet at the same
time a la The Flintstones. Psssst! They were Democrats. ROTFLMAO

TDD

On 04/21/11 12:48 pm, Frank wrote:
On 4/21/2011 12:36 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 11:49 am, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on
for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html




Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.
' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Perce

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

On 04/21/11 12:48 pm, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on
for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html

Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.

' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies want
us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.

Perce

In article ,
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies want
us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.

Perce

Don't know about the pushing, but it certainly is a renewable
resource. You could recycle most (if not all) of the wax. All you would
need to do is replace the wick.

--
"Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on."
---PJ O'Rourke

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Well, the country was founded by religious wackos, they came in boats.
A friends' mother worked for the local board of education here in the
country of Alabamastan and she was shocked and amused that there were
people running things who believed that the Earth was less than 4,000
years old and that man and Dinosaurs occupied the planet at the same
time a la The Flintstones. Psssst! They were Democrats. ROTFLMAO


This country was not founded by religious wackos.

This country was founded by religious wackos WITH GUNS.

And don't you forget it!

On 4/22/2011 2:21 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 12:48 pm, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on
for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html


Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.

' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are
all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies want
us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.

Perce

Lightning bugs? ^_^

TDD

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:37:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 4/22/2011 2:21 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 04/21/11 12:48 pm, Frank wrote:

"...a group of scientists warned that [CFLs] contain cancer causing
chemicals. Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on
for
extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit
poisonous
materials when switched on. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/84...chemicals.html


Or maybe it was cell phones that should not be near the head when
switched
on.

Whatever.

' Toxicity and carcinogenicity are dose related. These chemicals are
all
present in our lives from different sources. If it scares the greenies,
they should stick to candles.

But burning candles probably also release harmful chemicals AND
contribute to global warming.

Of course, but most greenies are too dumb to know that

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies want
us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.

Perce

Lightning bugs? ^_^

PETA is going to get you.

On 4/22/2011 5:17 PM, HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:

Well, the country was founded by religious wackos, they came in boats.
A friends' mother worked for the local board of education here in the
country of Alabamastan and she was shocked and amused that there were
people running things who believed that the Earth was less than 4,000
years old and that man and Dinosaurs occupied the planet at the same
time a la The Flintstones. Psssst! They were Democrats. ROTFLMAO


This country was not founded by religious wackos.

This country was founded by religious wackos WITH GUNS.

And don't you forget it!



Yea but The Pilgrims only had flintlocks or were they matchlocks?
You could probably sit in on a history class in a government school
and hear something like: "The evil greedy Pilgrims pointed their AK47
assault guns at the peaceful Native Americans and stole their turkey
dinners." O_o

TDD

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies
want us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.


Perhaps not, but lighting using whale oil certainly makes use of a renewable
source.

On 4/22/2011 6:11 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In ,
"Percival P. wrote:

I have never read of any "green" push to use candles. The greenies want
us to use renewable energy sources, and candles aren't.

Perce

Don't know about the pushing, but it certainly is a renewable
resource. You could recycle most (if not all) of the wax. All you would
need to do is replace the wick.



Ah, the wax from candles *is* the fuel, the wick is just there to make
it burn easier. Cheap candles drip a lot of wax, that would be reusable
but that's only a small percentage of the fuel.

If you use bees wax, that is good in candles and I suppose that could be
considered renewable. They won't drip much if at all.