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Weird toggle switch
I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For
years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. |
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On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote:
I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like you have a 3-way switch. Is there another switch somewhere that controls the light? Maybe inside the medicine cabinet. Look at your switch. Does it say "on" or "off" on it? If you don't, most likely its a 3 way switch. |
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On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote:
I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. It sounds like someone flipped a 3-way switch someplace else in the house and didn't notice it. Think back...do you recall walking into the bathroom and saying "Who left the damn light on?" If so, then someone turned it on with the other 3 way switch and didn't realize it. Find that switch, switch it the other way and you'll be back to your usual up-down operation - until the next time somebody toggles the other switch. |
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On Oct 15, 10:22*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. It sounds like someone flipped a 3-way switch someplace else in the house and didn't notice it. Think back...do you recall walking into the bathroom and saying "Who left the damn light on?" If so, then someone turned it on with the other 3 way switch and didn't realize it. Find that switch, switch it the other way and you'll be back to your usual up-down operation - until the next time somebody toggles the other switch. Possible it's a 3way, but doesn't sound very likely, since he says the switch is part of the medicine cabinet. On the other hand, the only other explanation I can think of is if it's one of the toggle switches that fits into a round hole in the medicine cabinet, maybe someone rotated the switch around 180degs. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:55:00 -0700 (PDT), Boothbay
wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like you have a 3way switch and someone accidentally found and flipped the one at the other end. |
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On Oct 15, 12:13*pm, Red Green wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in news:bfa23a78-74c5-428c-84e3- : On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. It sounds like someone flipped a 3-way switch someplace else in the house and didn't notice it. Think back...do you recall walking into the bathroom and saying "Who left the damn light on?" If so, then someone turned it on with the other 3 way switch and didn't realize it. Find that switch, switch it the other way and you'll be back to your usual up-down operation - until the next time somebody toggles the other switch. If it were a 3-way, it would NOT have the ON & OFF molded into it. http://inspectbeforebuying.com/HRC/O.../image002.gif- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - umm...did I imply that it did or did you reply to the wrong post? |
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In article ,
"chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. |
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Smitty Two wrote:
In article , "chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. you were hiding behind the filing cabinet? duh, to say that i didn't turn the crt upside down is pretty stupid unless you were. and you weren't. considering that 2 others in my office were there when i did this, you look pretty stupid making that statement. fyi, it was a televideo 955 https://www.str-s.com/televideo-mode...-955+132135-00 and was pretty easy to turn upside down and put back together because there was lots of space inside to do so. |
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chaniarts wrote:
Smitty Two wrote: In article , "chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. you were hiding behind the filing cabinet? duh, to say that i didn't turn the crt upside down is pretty stupid unless you were. and you weren't. considering that 2 others in my office were there when i did this, you look pretty stupid making that statement. fyi, it was a televideo 955 https://www.str-s.com/televideo-mode...-955+132135-00 and was pretty easy to turn upside down and put back together because there was lots of space inside to do so. He may have just turned the CRT upside down with the yoke attached to it. That would have inverted the image just fine. Nowadays it's easier to just use a prank software program like this one: http://www.rjlpranks.com/pranks/rotate/ Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Oct 15, 9:41*am, Mikepier wrote:
On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like you have a 3-way switch. Is there another switch somewhere that controls the light? Maybe inside the medicine cabinet. Look at your switch. Does it say "on" or "off" on it? If you don't, most likely its a 3 way switch. I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... |
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Boothbay wrote:
On Oct 15, 9:41 am, Mikepier wrote: On Oct 15, 8:55 am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like you have a 3-way switch. Is there another switch somewhere that controls the light? Maybe inside the medicine cabinet. Look at your switch. Does it say "on" or "off" on it? If you don't, most likely its a 3 way switch. I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. Look outside around the circuit breaker box for tampering, foot-prints, etc. Can you fashion a rudimentary lathe? |
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"Boothbay" wrote in message
... I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like the switch is failing - not unusual for cheaply made switches in corrosion-prone areas like a bathroom. I predict it will work for a while longer and then fail, perhaps on, perhaps off, and maybe with a little sputtering. I find that clamp lamps with a rotating knob switch to fail in much the same way. Heat, moisture and age are all factors. It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. Nor is it likely to be gremlins rotating it 180 degrees just to mess with you. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras. The most likely explanation is just typical cheap manufacturing coupled with a harsh environment. -- Bobby G. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:58:05 -0400, "Robert Green"
wrote: "Boothbay" wrote in message ... I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like the switch is failing - not unusual for cheaply made switches in corrosion-prone areas like a bathroom. I predict it will work for a while longer and then fail, perhaps on, perhaps off, and maybe with a little sputtering. I find that clamp lamps with a rotating knob switch to fail in much the same way. Heat, moisture and age are all factors. It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. Nor is it likely to be gremlins rotating it 180 degrees just to mess with you. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras. The most likely explanation is just typical cheap manufacturing coupled with a harsh environment. I've seen LOTs of 3 way switches in bathrooms. Mostly in on-suites - but any bathroom with 2 doors. |
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HeyBub wrote:
Boothbay wrote: .... I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. ... That won't change switch behavior of when contacts open/closed...all it would do would be to break on neutral side of circuit instead of hot side. If it hasn't been geometrically changed in orientation, the only alternative is that somehow the mechanical internals have worn to the point they're somehow operating backwards of before... I'd suggest as someone else that a new switch is in your future sooner as opposed to later. -- |
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dpb wrote:
HeyBub wrote: Boothbay wrote: ... I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. ... That won't change switch behavior of when contacts open/closed...all it would do would be to break on neutral side of circuit instead of hot side. If it hasn't been geometrically changed in orientation, the only alternative is that somehow the mechanical internals have worn to the point they're somehow operating backwards of before... I'd suggest as someone else that a new switch is in your future sooner as opposed to later. Well maybe the ground and neutral was reversed. Or the bulb has a left-hand thread. I know: the fixture is upside-down! |
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HeyBub wrote:
dpb wrote: HeyBub wrote: Boothbay wrote: ... I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. ... That won't change switch behavior of when contacts open/closed...all it would do would be to break on neutral side of circuit instead of hot side. If it hasn't been geometrically changed in orientation, the only alternative is that somehow the mechanical internals have worn to the point they're somehow operating backwards of before... I'd suggest as someone else that a new switch is in your future sooner as opposed to later. Well maybe the ground and neutral was reversed. Or the bulb has a left-hand thread. I know: the fixture is upside-down! You may laugh, but when I was a cop I made a call where a person or persons unknown broke into the complainant's house and replaced ALL his furniture with other furniture that looked exactly like his original furniture! To this day, the episode remains a whodunit! |
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I think it's unlikely to have a three way toggle switch on the side
of a 25 year old medicine chest. My vote is mechanical failure within the switch. And that the switch is soon to fail. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... I've seen LOTs of 3 way switches in bathrooms. Mostly in on-suites - but any bathroom with 2 doors. |
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Was alcohol, marijuana, or toggle switches involved?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message ... You may laugh, but when I was a cop I made a call where a person or persons unknown broke into the complainant's house and replaced ALL his furniture with other furniture that looked exactly like his original furniture! To this day, the episode remains a whodunit! |
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On 10/15/2010 7:08 PM, HeyBub wrote:
HeyBub wrote: dpb wrote: HeyBub wrote: Boothbay wrote: ... I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. ... That won't change switch behavior of when contacts open/closed...all it would do would be to break on neutral side of circuit instead of hot side. If it hasn't been geometrically changed in orientation, the only alternative is that somehow the mechanical internals have worn to the point they're somehow operating backwards of before... I'd suggest as someone else that a new switch is in your future sooner as opposed to later. Well maybe the ground and neutral was reversed. Or the bulb has a left-hand thread. I know: the fixture is upside-down! You may laugh, but when I was a cop I made a call where a person or persons unknown broke into the complainant's house and replaced ALL his furniture with other furniture that looked exactly like his original furniture! To this day, the episode remains a whodunit! If yer gonna steal from Steven Wright, at least credit him. -- aem sends... |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:05:14 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I think it's unlikely to have a three way toggle switch on the side of a 25 year old medicine chest. My vote is mechanical failure within the switch. And that the switch is soon to fail. You are likely correct, with it being a light duty bat handle switch (round or "D" hole mount) |
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In article ,
jeff_wisnia wrote: He may have just turned the CRT upside down with the yoke attached to it. That would have inverted the image just fine. Theoretically possible. But anyone who knows enough about TVs to do that, knows enough to rotate the yoke, which is 1000 times easier. He's just having fantasies. Besides, I doubt if the anode lead to the CRT would be long enough, among other things. |
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wrote in message
... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:58:05 -0400, "Robert Green" wrote: "Boothbay" wrote in message ... I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like the switch is failing - not unusual for cheaply made switches in corrosion-prone areas like a bathroom. I predict it will work for a while longer and then fail, perhaps on, perhaps off, and maybe with a little sputtering. I find that clamp lamps with a rotating knob switch to fail in much the same way. Heat, moisture and age are all factors. It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. Nor is it likely to be gremlins rotating it 180 degrees just to mess with you. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras. The most likely explanation is just typical cheap manufacturing coupled with a harsh environment. I've seen LOTs of 3 way switches in bathrooms. Mostly in on-suites - but any bathroom with 2 doors. Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment. (-: It's still most likely to be a bad switch given its location (wet bathroom on the side of the medicine cabinet) and the symptoms the OP described. A switch like that may not be well-sealed and after years of operation with damp fingers crud may have made its way into the switch internals. I'd be even more certain of a bad switch if the load was more than 25W - the closer the switch is to something hot, the greater the chance for failure. When I used to use 300W photofloods in the studio, the cheaper lamp holder switches would fail with regularity - which is why I think it's a bad switch from what the OP described. Obviously the greater the current, the greater the potential for corrosion and material failure. I'll bet the "feel" of the switch has changed. Whenever I've had a toggle switch begin to enter a failure mode, the switch feels "sticky" or "mushy" and doesn't have the right "snap" to it. -- Bobby G. |
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aemeijers wrote:
You may laugh, but when I was a cop I made a call where a person or persons unknown broke into the complainant's house and replaced ALL his furniture with other furniture that looked exactly like his original furniture! To this day, the episode remains a whodunit! If yer gonna steal from Steven Wright, at least credit him. I don't remember the homeowner's name, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Steven Wright. |
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On Oct 16, 6:10*am, "Robert Green" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:58:05 -0400, "Robert Green" wrote: "Boothbay" wrote in message .... I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like the switch is failing - not unusual for cheaply made switches in corrosion-prone areas like a bathroom. *I predict it will work for a while longer and then fail, perhaps on, perhaps off, and maybe with a little sputtering. *I find that clamp lamps with a rotating knob switch to fail in much the same way. *Heat, moisture and age are all factors. It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. *I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. *Nor is it likely to be gremlins rotating it 180 degrees just to mess with you. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras. *The most likely explanation is just typical cheap manufacturing coupled with a harsh environment. *I've seen LOTs of 3 way switches in bathrooms. Mostly in on-suites - but any bathroom with 2 doors. Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. *No, wait, that's not true. *Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment. *(-: I have a master bathroom with two doors and a 3 way switch. A friend of mine has one with three doors, in his new house. It's not that unusual in newer, larger, homes. 3 way switches in larger bathrooms are even more common. |
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In the OP case, his toggle switch is molded into the medicine chest
and miror. I'd think those three ways would be on the wall. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment. (-: I have a master bathroom with two doors and a 3 way switch. A friend of mine has one with three doors, in his new house. It's not that unusual in newer, larger, homes. 3 way switches in larger bathrooms are even more common. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote in
: On Oct 15, 12:13*pm, Red Green wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote in news:bfa23a78-74c5-428c-84e3- : On Oct 15, 8:55*am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. It sounds like someone flipped a 3-way switch someplace else in the house and didn't notice it. Think back...do you recall walking into the bathroom and saying "Who left the damn light on?" If so, then someone turned it on with the other 3 way switch and didn't realize it. Find that switch, switch it the other way and you'll be back to your usual up-down operation - until the next time somebody toggles the other switch. If it were a 3-way, it would NOT have the ON & OFF molded into it. http://inspectbeforebuying.com/HRC/O...les/image002.g if- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - umm...did I imply that it did or did you reply to the wrong post? Was meant for OP to "Lemme go look and see if it has ON/OFF markings." No sense starting a 3-way hunt if it has them. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , "chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. No you didn't. The wires on a yoke would not permit rotating the yoke 180 degrees. Upside down pic easily accomplished by swapping the vertical winding wires. Also make pic backwards by swapping the horizontal winding wires. Bob-tx |
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On Oct 16, 6:10*am, "Robert Green" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:58:05 -0400, "Robert Green" wrote: "Boothbay" wrote in message .... I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like the switch is failing - not unusual for cheaply made switches in corrosion-prone areas like a bathroom. *I predict it will work for a while longer and then fail, perhaps on, perhaps off, and maybe with a little sputtering. *I find that clamp lamps with a rotating knob switch to fail in much the same way. *Heat, moisture and age are all factors. It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. *I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. *Nor is it likely to be gremlins rotating it 180 degrees just to mess with you. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras. *The most likely explanation is just typical cheap manufacturing coupled with a harsh environment. *I've seen LOTs of 3 way switches in bathrooms. Mostly in on-suites - but any bathroom with 2 doors. Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. *No, wait, that's not true. *Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment. *(-: It's still most likely to be a bad switch given its location (wet bathroom on the side of the medicine cabinet) and the symptoms the OP described. *A switch like that may not be well-sealed and after years of operation with damp fingers crud may have made its way into the switch internals. I'd be even more certain of a bad switch if the load was more than 25W - the closer the switch is to something hot, the greater the chance for failure.. When I used to use 300W photofloods in the studio, the cheaper lamp holder switches would fail with regularity - which is why I think it's a bad switch from what the OP described. *Obviously the greater the current, the greater the potential for corrosion and material failure. I'll bet the "feel" of the switch has changed. *Whenever I've had a toggle switch begin to enter a failure mode, the switch feels "sticky" or "mushy" and doesn't have the right "snap" to it. -- Bobby G. "Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment." They are not all that uncommon. Here are just a couple of the plans found via a Google search: http://math.berkeley.edu/~whitney/ou...planbefore.gif http://www.travelswithtrouble.com/pr..._sinks_v_3.jpg |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Oct 16, 6:10*am, "Robert Green" wrote: -snip- Bobby G. "Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment." They are not all that uncommon. Here are just a couple of the plans found via a Google search: http://math.berkeley.edu/~whitney/ou...planbefore.gif http://www.travelswithtrouble.com/pr..._sinks_v_3.jpg Pretty common actually in the big old barns of houses built in the early 20th century in NY. And even more common in the older houses that converted 'walk-in hall closets' to bathrooms. Jim |
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In article ,
Jim Elbrecht wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Oct 16, 6:10*am, "Robert Green" wrote: -snip- Bobby G. "Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment." They are not all that uncommon. Here are just a couple of the plans found via a Google search: http://math.berkeley.edu/~whitney/ou...planbefore.gif http://www.travelswithtrouble.com/pr.../clawfoot_with _2_sinks_v_3.jpg Pretty common actually in the big old barns of houses built in the early 20th century in NY. And even more common in the older houses that converted 'walk-in hall closets' to bathrooms. Jim Around here they've chopped up all the old "mansions" into four or five apartments. I've seen several where access to a given bedroom is only through another bedroom and then through the shared bathroom. When I was in ninth grade, I drew a set of house plans with an indoor swimming pool. I had one bathroom that had four doors: one from each of the two changing rooms, one from the house, and one from the pool. The shop teacher was Not Happy. He made me erase two of them. |
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On 10/17/2010 7:40 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
wrote: On Oct 16, 6:10 am, "Robert wrote: -snip- Bobby G. "Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment." They are not all that uncommon. Here are just a couple of the plans found via a Google search: http://math.berkeley.edu/~whitney/ou...planbefore.gif http://www.travelswithtrouble.com/pr..._sinks_v_3.jpg Pretty common actually in the big old barns of houses built in the early 20th century in NY. And even more common in the older houses that converted 'walk-in hall closets' to bathrooms. Jim Dirt-common late 60s to at least late 70s, for the kid bedroom wing. Hall door, and a door to the BR on each side. The lower-on-the-food-chain kids actually had to walk across the hall to go pee. Given the obvious problems with kids of opposite genders once puberty hits, the practice may have died out, and they only do hall doors now. -- aem sends... |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:55:51 -0400, aemeijers wrote:
On 10/17/2010 7:40 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote: wrote: On Oct 16, 6:10 am, "Robert wrote: -snip- Bobby G. "Well, I've never seen a bathroom with two doors, either. No, wait, that's not true. Only in college dormitories with shared bathrooms - but that's certainly not a typical residential environment." They are not all that uncommon. Here are just a couple of the plans found via a Google search: http://math.berkeley.edu/~whitney/ou...planbefore.gif http://www.travelswithtrouble.com/pr..._sinks_v_3.jpg Pretty common actually in the big old barns of houses built in the early 20th century in NY. And even more common in the older houses that converted 'walk-in hall closets' to bathrooms. Jim Dirt-common late 60s to at least late 70s, for the kid bedroom wing. Hall door, and a door to the BR on each side. The lower-on-the-food-chain kids actually had to walk across the hall to go pee. Given the obvious problems with kids of opposite genders once puberty hits, the practice may have died out, and they only do hall doors now. No, "Jack-n-Jill" bathrooms (shared bathroom between bedrooms) are quite common now. |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:58:05 -0400, Robert Green wrote:
[snip] It's not very likely to be a hidden three-way switch because it's in a bathroom. I don't think I've ever seen a three-way switch in a bathroom - ever. I have, in a bathroom with 2 doors and a switch by each door. [snip] -- 69 days until The winter celebration (Saturday December 25, 2010 12:00:00 AM). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "I don't believe in god because I don't believe in Mother Goose." -- Clarence Darrow |
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On Oct 16, 12:31*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , *jeff_wisnia wrote: He may have just turned the CRT upside down with the yoke attached to it. That would have inverted the image just fine. Theoretically possible. But anyone who knows enough about TVs to do that, knows enough to rotate the yoke, which is 1000 times easier. He's just having fantasies. Besides, I doubt if the anode lead to the CRT would be long enough, among other things. Most anode are attached to the top off the tube...if turned USD the wire would be more than enough! |
Weird toggle switch
On Oct 15, 2:40*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Boothbay wrote: On Oct 15, 9:41 am, Mikepier wrote: On Oct 15, 8:55 am, Boothbay wrote: I have a switch in bathroom that lights up my 25w florescent bulb. For years I've used the up toggle switch to turn it on and down to turn it off. Now, for the past week or so, its doing the reverse. It won't turn on unless it turn it down. Is this possible? Its really complicated to get at the switch cause its embedded into a large medicine chest, and an old one at that...came with the house. Sounds like you have a 3-way switch. Is there another switch somewhere that controls the light? Maybe inside the medicine cabinet. Look at your switch. Does it say "on" or "off" on it? If you don't, most likely its a 3 way switch. I am the author of this post and no its not a 3 way switch, I live alone so no one else has tampered with it, its not loose, and it does have a shaver? 2 prong outlet... Somebody reversed your hot and neutral. Look outside around the circuit breaker box for tampering, foot-prints, etc. Can you fashion a rudimentary lathe? Now we're stealing from "Galaxy Quest" satirizing "Star Trek"! |
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Bob-tx wrote:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , "chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. No you didn't. The wires on a yoke would not permit rotating the yoke 180 degrees. Upside down pic easily accomplished by swapping the vertical winding wires. Also make pic backwards by swapping the horizontal winding wires. Bob-tx it's simply amazing the number of internet people who were there looking over my shoulder saying that i didn't do what i actually did some 20 years ago. there was (just) enough slack in all the wires to do this. i must have 25 of these terminals on racks down the hall, if any of you experts would like to come see how to do this. |
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On Oct 18, 2:43*pm, "chaniarts" wrote:
Bob-tx wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , "chaniarts" wrote: i once (back in the days of dumb crt terminals) cracked the case open, turned the crt display tube upside down, closed it up, and placed it back on a cow-orkers desk. No you didn't. You heard about people rotating the yoke to turn the pic upside down, and you co-opted the story but actually don't know anything about CRTs. No you didn't. *The wires on a yoke would not permit rotating the yoke 180 degrees. Upside down pic easily accomplished by swapping the vertical winding wires. Also make pic backwards by swapping the horizontal winding wires. Bob-tx it's simply amazing the number of internet people who were there looking over my shoulder saying that i didn't do what i actually did some 20 years ago. there was (just) enough slack in all the wires to do this. i must have 25 of these terminals on racks down the hall, if any of you experts would like to come see how to do this.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You didn't do it! Even if you showed us how you did it by doing it again on the exact same model monitor, you still didn't do it. We've made up our minds - don't try to convince us by using facts, details or even live demonstrations. So there. |
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