On 10/13/2010 1:43 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Oct 13, 1:00 pm, Bill who wrote:
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On Oct 13, 11:08 am, "Percival P.
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We have three "Champion" toilets that we bought a few years ago. They
flush very well, but it was not long before the flush valves on two of
them (the two that get used most) started leaking: the rubber ring
became "flabby" and didn't seat well. I called AS, who sent a pack of
new rubber rings. These worked fine at first but started leaking after a
few months. I had kept the old rings, which seemed to have become
"firmer" again after drying out, and these worked fine for a few months.
I went through this cycle for a quite a while, but recently the "flush
tower" on one of them started sticking in the Up position, and the only
way to get it to drop back down was to remove the tank lid and give the
flush tower a firm push.

I filled out a customer support form on the AS Web site and they
promptly shipped three "Champion 4" flush valves, which I installed
yesterday. These work fine, of course, although I have read reports that
even with these some people have had problems.

The new mechanism does not seem nearly as sophisticated: the original
"flush tower" would drop and stop the water flow even if the handle was
held down, but the new one stays open if the handle is held down (or
sticks down).

Although AS sent new flush valves, they did not send new tank-to-bowl
seals. One of the originals did not survive the removal and replacement
very well and really needs to be replaced too.

BTW, I discovered that there is a class action suit against AS in
relation to these toilets: even when AS has sent replacement parts, many
people have had to pay plumbers to replace the parts, not to mention the
wasted water and excessive water bills.

Perce

Wonder if this is a similar problem I have with my Toto GMax. It's a
great toilet but I've had to replace the bigger flapper twice - after
about 2 years. Old ones looked fine but leaked.

I was told to rub the flappers with Vaseline once in awhile. My
flappers are about 40 years old. My toilet problems were really water
pump check valves getting clogged or just poor quality valves from the
get go. Don't want to talk about it as it is really nice not hearing
the pump come on.

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"I was told to rub the flappers with Vaseline once in awhile."

Um...errrr...oh, nevermind.

Touch my flapper and I'll slap you, you beast!

TDD