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Might be you'd worked on larger ones. The several sub-zeros I've
serviced have been tin can compressors. Two -- one for fridge, and a larger one for freezer. They have the usual problems with condensor air flow, and one I worked on had a leaky evaporator. Actually, I've worked on two Sup Zero which the customer chose to replace. One had a failed compressor, the other had a leaky evaporator. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... I suppose I'm only familiar with the older Sub-Zero units. The units I've fooled with, were built like commercial units with semi-hermetic compressors on the top of the fridge. TDD |
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I was also wondering that, but glad you asked. I'm guessing that at
least some of the time, Lloyd's correct diagnosis is much different than the tech from the yellow pages. I'm guessing Lloyd and the tech disagree about 75% of the time. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve B" wrote in message ... I don't repair anyone's equipment but my own. I will, however, diagnose friends' systems for them, so they don't get bilked by the repair tech when he finally shows up. LLoyd What % of the time would you estimate that happens? Steve |
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A few years ago our furnace was taken out by lightning strike. I was
able to diagnose which board failed and that helped me detect a part swapping bull****ter tech who wanted to swap essentially everything. I hired another one , who actually bothered to try to diagnose the issue. This one is my only HVAC guy now. i |
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On 9/22/2010 6:52 AM, rangerssuck wrote:
On Sep 22, 1:31 am, "Steve wrote: Refrigerator repairmen to me are like teachers. They can't make it in the real world, or at any chosen discipline, so they just take the easy way out, and settle for a position that at least doesn't have a social stigma like "gutter cleaner". If they were able to grasp the basics of HVAC, they'd be out there changing 10 ton units, doing new construction, putting in very large walk in coolers or freezers, or the like. But instead, they don't have what it it takes to make it in the trade, so they fall back on "refrigerator repairman." Which to me is the same to "bicycle mechanic." No offense to bicycle mechanics out there ................................. Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com What the ****? Teachers can't make it in the real world, or at any chosen discipline, so they just take the easy way out? Are you ****ing serious? When I was a wee lad, I had nuns for teachers, they were married to God so they didn't worry about the real world. 8-) TDD |
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You didn't get the memo? It's ALWAYS the thermostat.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... In any vocation, if you don't update your knowledge base and skillset every 3 years, your behind the curve. With the changes and advances in HVAC, its every 6 months to a year..... unless your looking for "Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" or "Bubba" with the cheapest price. Just remember that you get what you pay for. Ma AC ain't a workin, I thank it's th thermostait. TDD |
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On 9/22/2010 7:43 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:18:37 -0700, Bill Noble wrote: the last time I had those symptoms, it was a 1947 Norge that had run until 1987. I took it apart, and the root cause was lack of lubrication to the rod bearing caused by a particle of some kind getting into the lubrication hole and blocking it - Still, one can't be too unhappy about a 40 year life on a refrig. Ours will be 34 next year, so it's getting up there. I'd replace it if I had any faith in a modern one lasting even a third of that time, but as it stands I'll just run it until something major breaks. I'm sure it uses huge amounts of power - but we have to heat the house for over half the year here, so at least anything that it loses as heat isn't going to waste during that time ;-) cheers Jules The older units usually have larger heavier parts and the motor windings may have a larger wire size. The newest equipment seems to be made as light and as spare of materials as possible. I repaired a standard top freezer refrigerator for my friend's daughter that stopped working due to the motor windings in both the defrost timer and evaporator fan being blown open by a power surge or lightening strike. The compressor was unaffected and the fridge escaped serious damage because it was so simple. Another fridge belonging to another customer was damaged by a lightening strike which blew out a very expensive electronic control board which controlled all of the complicated bells and whistles that the wonderful big side by side super duper fridge was equipped with. TDD |
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On 9/22/2010 6:46 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: On 9/21/2010 10:01 PM, Ignoramus25344 wrote: On 2010-09-22, Lloyd E. Sponenburghlloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Just curious why are you so ****y, a slow day? Customers not calling? no... he's a "refrigeration professional", and doesn't want anyone to figure out the four or five pages of knowlege that constitutes his "professional advantage" over ordinary laymen. Does that refrigeration knowledge amount to so little? Any textbook you would recommend? I cannot believe that, after fixing and retrofitting my Bridgeport Interact CNC mill, I cannot ever properly diagnose a bad Sears refrigerator. I started knowing nothing about CNC mills and now, thanks to all the great help I got, I have a working CNC machine. Maybe I can fix the fridge too. i I don't see why not, I remember fixing a CNC machine that had a Toshiba bubble memory unit in the controller. It was a hoot, when I told the kid at the electronic supply house about the bubble memory unit, I got a blank stare and a "duh?". Remember all the hype about Bubble memory? It was supposed to do to solid state RAM, what RAM did to core memory. I've only seen one computer with Bubble memory, and it failed twice in two years. Oh man, you're showing your age. I had a great deal of fun with Univac 1100 series and IBM 360-50 systems so long ago. I was actually present when a customer service engineer, remember them, diagnosed a core memory failure, the first he'd seen. Back then, when you bought a computer, an engineer was included in the price to take care of the big monster. I remember the big splash bubble memory made and I think it should be looked at again and updated with more modern materials. There are some applications in the world for simple robust nonvolatile memory devices that could be served by the technology. Darn, I had a small core memory unit (palm sized) that I found in a junk pile on Meck Island at the Kwajalein Missile Range back in the late 1980's. I lost it in a move, it was a neat little gadget. TDD |
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On 9/22/2010 8:40 AM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
"Steve fired this volley in news:8ohom7- : What % of the time would you estimate that happens? Around where we live, I'd say at least 30%. Most of the problems with split systems around here are due to age, corrosion, and leaky fittings; or the omni-present lightning-induced electrical burnouts. But about 1/3 of the time when they DON'T need anything but a simple repair or leak fix, the "repairmen" will show up, puff and wheeze around the unit for an hour or so, and declare it's going to need "(new compressor, new unit, replacing... et. al.)". We have some guys who at least can fix units. We have others whose main reason for making a service call is to entice the owner to buy a new unit. LLoyd Me and my friends have been installing surge arresters on a lot of AC systems especially in rural areas, it keeps them running and the people who depend on them and us happy. TDD |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote When I was a wee lad, I had nuns for teachers, they were married to God so they didn't worry about the real world. 8-) TDD Drill instructor screaming in grunt's face. Grunt answers back, "You don't scare me. I went to Catholic school." Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 70... AZ Nomad fired this volley in : You need more than a fiddle to perform refrigeration repair. That's all I see the "pros" do. They swap crap until it works, and if it's an actual _refrigeration_ problem, they either add refrigerant, or scratch their asses waiting for advice from "someone at the office." LLoyd I have gauges. I would bet a Franklin that I could check the level of freon in my system, call for a repairman, and be charged for a freon charge to "top off the system." It takes more than *just* gauges to check the refrigerant charge balance. What about the compressors rated amp draw?? superheat?? subcooling?? You can check with your gauges, then **** and moan cause you added when it didn't need it, or recovered what you thought was excess.... when the "problem" may have only been dirty coils, or blower wheel, or dirty filter, or bunch of registers closed, or............. WHOOSH! (The sound of an idea passing over an empty air space.) Echo. A reverberating WHOOSH! Steve |
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"Ignoramus15834" wrote in message ... A few years ago our furnace was taken out by lightning strike. I was able to diagnose which board failed and that helped me detect a part swapping bull****ter tech who wanted to swap essentially everything. I hired another one , who actually bothered to try to diagnose the issue. This one is my only HVAC guy now. i When you find a good one, keep them. We have a company that does the work in our three Vegas properties, and they know their stuff. They're the kind that will say, "It's worn, but it will last another year," rather then, "Oh, Man! It needs EVERYTHING!" Steve |
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On 2010-09-22, Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 22-Sep-10 04:18, Ignoramus25344 wrote: If you recall, a month or so ago I posted about a refrigerator not working. The compressor unit in it would keep trying to start and would be unable to start, tripping an overload relay. How old is it? Does it have enough room to vent its heat? 5 years old or so, yes it has room to vent. |
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On 2010-09-22, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/21/2010 10:01 PM, Ignoramus25344 wrote: On 2010-09-22, Lloyd E. Sponenburghlloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Just curious why are you so ****y, a slow day? Customers not calling? no... he's a "refrigeration professional", and doesn't want anyone to figure out the four or five pages of knowlege that constitutes his "professional advantage" over ordinary laymen. Does that refrigeration knowledge amount to so little? Any textbook you would recommend? I cannot believe that, after fixing and retrofitting my Bridgeport Interact CNC mill, I cannot ever properly diagnose a bad Sears refrigerator. I started knowing nothing about CNC mills and now, thanks to all the great help I got, I have a working CNC machine. Maybe I can fix the fridge too. i I don't see why not, I remember fixing a CNC machine that had a Toshiba bubble memory unit in the controller. It was a hoot, when I told the kid at the electronic supply house about the bubble memory unit, I got a blank stare and a "duh?". Wow, bubble memory. In my case, the repair was ripping out the old CNC control and making a new one. i |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:24:21 +0000 (UTC), Mike Hocksbigg
wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Troll? Ive several aquaintences who do HVAC...and it appears to be a true statement. Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Ignoramus15834 fired this volley in
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On 2010-09-21, LSMFT wrote:
Your motor has lack of lubrication and is seizing up. Since it's in a sealed can you can't fix it. Putting lubrication in the coolant could help but you can't do that either without unsoldering connections and capturing the coolant and could cost more to fix than to throw out and buy a new one. I understand the implication of what you are saying, which is that it is an expensive fix. But just for my education, what exactly is wrong so that there is lack of lubrication? Say, why are the bearings in my 59 year old compressor working great and this fridge is dead at a relatively young age? (well, I know why my compressor is going well, because the pumpbearings are pressure lubricated). Are there any "well made" refrigerators where things are designed to last long? i |
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On 2010-09-21, Bill wrote:
To test this theory, put all your food in ice chests and turn off the fridge for 24 hours with the door open. Then start it back up and see if it works for another month. There are also pans in the bottom of fridges to catch water. See if that is full after 24 hours. If it is "frost free", these have a timer which shuts off the compressor, then turns on a heating element on the freezer coils. This defrosts the freezer portion every so often.. The timer or the heating element can stop working. You may be able to remove a panel in the freezer portion and see the coils if they are hidden. If you see a big block of ice, then that is the problem. Air can not be circulated into the refrigerator if ice is blocking the air I tried restarting yesterday after 12-14 hours. It did not start. I will start again today, after 36 or so hours, and will see. I am not expecting much. i |
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Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Not really, but you can try harder next time. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:24:21 +0000 (UTC), Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Troll? Ive several aquaintences who do HVAC...and it appears to be a true statement. I've seen some who were too stupid to place the system inside the marks painted on the floor of an equipment room. Eight systems, and not one within three feet of where it belonged. The morons screamed that they wouldn't move them, till their boss was called to remove everything from the pair of new buildings. It was a new college campus. Another used so much flex that you couldn't get into the attic of a new building, and the morons ripped out the wiring for the fire alarm system. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: "Steve B" fired this volley in news:8ohom7- : What % of the time would you estimate that happens? Around where we live, I'd say at least 30%. Most of the problems with split systems around here are due to age, corrosion, and leaky fittings; or the omni-present lightning-induced electrical burnouts. But about 1/3 of the time when they DON'T need anything but a simple repair or leak fix, the "repairmen" will show up, puff and wheeze around the unit for an hour or so, and declare it's going to need "(new compressor, new unit, replacing... et. al.)". We have some guys who at least can fix units. We have others whose main reason for making a service call is to entice the owner to buy a new unit. That sounds like Orlando. Frequent news stories about HVAC companies committing fraud. the owners claim that they will fire the 'bad employee', but the news crew frequently get shots of them still driving a marked company vehicle days to months later. I guess that there aren't enough small, crooked used car lots to hire all these idiots. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote: On 9/22/2010 6:46 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: On 9/21/2010 10:01 PM, Ignoramus25344 wrote: On 2010-09-22, Lloyd E. Sponenburghlloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Just curious why are you so ****y, a slow day? Customers not calling? no... he's a "refrigeration professional", and doesn't want anyone to figure out the four or five pages of knowlege that constitutes his "professional advantage" over ordinary laymen. Does that refrigeration knowledge amount to so little? Any textbook you would recommend? I cannot believe that, after fixing and retrofitting my Bridgeport Interact CNC mill, I cannot ever properly diagnose a bad Sears refrigerator. I started knowing nothing about CNC mills and now, thanks to all the great help I got, I have a working CNC machine. Maybe I can fix the fridge too. i I don't see why not, I remember fixing a CNC machine that had a Toshiba bubble memory unit in the controller. It was a hoot, when I told the kid at the electronic supply house about the bubble memory unit, I got a blank stare and a "duh?". Remember all the hype about Bubble memory? It was supposed to do to solid state RAM, what RAM did to core memory. I've only seen one computer with Bubble memory, and it failed twice in two years. Oh man, you're showing your age. I had a great deal of fun with Univac 1100 series and IBM 360-50 systems so long ago. I was actually present when a customer service engineer, remember them, diagnosed a core memory failure, the first he'd seen. Back then, when you bought a computer, an engineer was included in the price to take care of the big monster. I remember the big splash bubble memory made and I think it should be looked at again and updated with more modern materials. There are some applications in the world for simple robust nonvolatile memory devices that could be served by the technology. Darn, I had a small core memory unit (palm sized) that I found in a junk pile on Meck Island at the Kwajalein Missile Range back in the late 1980's. I lost it in a move, it was a neat little gadget. This was in the early '80s, and it was in one version of TI's IBM XT clone. It was used as a remote data entry teminal for billing at a Cable TV office. It replaced a cassette tape based NCR 300 baud terminal that was installed in 1979 -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: Ignoramus15834 fired this volley in : Wow, bubble memory. I gotcha one better. I rebuilt and serviced ASCII terminals that used 1K bytes of magneto- strictive delay line memory! With an 8 or a 16 pound sledge hammer? ;-) -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On 9/22/2010 12:54 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
fired this volley in : Wow, bubble memory. I gotcha one better. I rebuilt and serviced ASCII terminals that used 1K bytes of magneto- strictive delay line memory! Wow. What year was that? Jeff LLoyd |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:51:38 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Not really, but you can try harder next time. Nice IKYABWAI, PeeWee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5P5eQiKNQs |
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Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:51:38 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Not really, but you can try harder next time. Nice IKYABWAI, PeeWee Sadly, PeeWee Herman is more of a man than you'll ever be. It must be all that freon you've huffed. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:45:37 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Nice IKYABWAI, PeeWee ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5P5eQiKNQs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sadly, PeeWee Herman is more of a man than you'll ever be. It must be all that freon you've huffed. Re-read above ^, PeeWee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5P5eQiKNQs |
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Perhaps, once he has determined that the solution is beyond his ability, of course. Don't be bustin his ass because he's making
that effort. Furthermore, we in this group HELP, unlike those responders at alt.hvac Steve "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Wouldn't he call a refrigeration professional, instead? |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:17:52 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/21/2010 10:01 PM, Ignoramus25344 wrote: On 2010-09-22, Lloyd E. Sponenburghlloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Just curious why are you so ****y, a slow day? Customers not calling? no... he's a "refrigeration professional", and doesn't want anyone to figure out the four or five pages of knowlege that constitutes his "professional advantage" over ordinary laymen. Does that refrigeration knowledge amount to so little? Any textbook you would recommend? I cannot believe that, after fixing and retrofitting my Bridgeport Interact CNC mill, I cannot ever properly diagnose a bad Sears refrigerator. I started knowing nothing about CNC mills and now, thanks to all the great help I got, I have a working CNC machine. Maybe I can fix the fridge too. I don't see why not, I remember fixing a CNC machine that had a Toshiba bubble memory unit in the controller. It was a hoot, when I told the kid at the electronic supply house about the bubble memory unit, I got a blank stare and a "duh?". Yes, but did it have ventricles in the frammistan? ;-P Cheers! Rich |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:06:51 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/22/2010 6:46 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: On 9/21/2010 10:01 PM, Ignoramus25344 wrote: .... Maybe I can fix the fridge too. I don't see why not, I remember fixing a CNC machine that had a Toshiba bubble memory unit in the controller. It was a hoot, when I told the kid at the electronic supply house about the bubble memory unit, I got a blank stare and a "duh?". Remember all the hype about Bubble memory? It was supposed to do to solid state RAM, what RAM did to core memory. I've only seen one computer with Bubble memory, and it failed twice in two years. Oh man, you're showing your age. I had a great deal of fun with Univac 1100 series and IBM 360-50 systems so long ago. I was actually present when a customer service engineer, remember them, diagnosed a core memory failure, the first he'd seen. Back then, when you bought a computer, an engineer was included in the price to take care of the big monster. I remember the big splash bubble memory made and I think it should be looked at again and updated with more modern materials. There are some applications in the world for simple robust nonvolatile memory devices that could be served by the technology. .... It probably can't compete with Flash. Cheers! Rich |
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Amateurs. I worked on Moses' abacus.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... Ignoramus15834 fired this volley in : Wow, bubble memory. I gotcha one better. I rebuilt and serviced ASCII terminals that used 1K bytes of magneto- strictive delay line memory! LLoyd |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: Drop and give me 20 Hail Marys, maggot! Not likely. I got in an argument with a D.I. in basic. Before it was over, the Captain read him the riot act and 'suggested' that he would not like being an E1 again. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:24:21 +0000 (UTC), Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Troll? Ive several aquaintences who do HVAC...and it appears to be a true statement. I've seen some who were too stupid to place the system inside the marks painted on the floor of an equipment room. Eight systems, and not one within three feet of where it belonged. The morons screamed that they wouldn't move them, till their boss was called to remove everything from the pair of new buildings. It was a new college campus. Another used so much flex that you couldn't get into the attic of a new building, and the morons ripped out the wiring for the fire alarm system. Gotta love it when they go with the lowest bid and they got what they paid for. |
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Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:24:21 +0000 (UTC), Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Troll? Ive several aquaintences who do HVAC...and it appears to be a true statement. I've seen some who were too stupid to place the system inside the marks painted on the floor of an equipment room. Eight systems, and not one within three feet of where it belonged. The morons screamed that they wouldn't move them, till their boss was called to remove everything from the pair of new buildings. It was a new college campus. Another used so much flex that you couldn't get into the attic of a new building, and the morons ripped out the wiring for the fire alarm system. Gotta love it when they go with the lowest bid and they got what they paid for. They didn't hire you. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... "Steve B" fired this volley in news:8ohom7- : What % of the time would you estimate that happens? Around where we live, I'd say at least 30%. Most of the problems with split systems around here are due to age, corrosion, and leaky fittings; or the omni-present lightning-induced electrical burnouts. But about 1/3 of the time when they DON'T need anything but a simple repair or leak fix, the "repairmen" will show up, puff and wheeze around the unit for an hour or so, and declare it's going to need "(new compressor, new unit, replacing... et. al.)". We have some guys who at least can fix units. We have others whose main reason for making a service call is to entice the owner to buy a new unit. You can run those old systems all you want until you need a compressor, or a coil... then *if* you can find one, in another year, you"ll be hard pressed to find R22, and when you do, its going to cost you. In the mean time, you can keep throwing your money away when you pay your electric bill. I put a new 14SEER dual fuel/hybrid system(4 ton) in my own home in February.... my August light bill was only $200, and used 500kwh *LESS* than August last year. You can *DO* what you want, I will keep my money in my pocket, thanx. |
Refrigerator not working again
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:24:21 +0000 (UTC), Mike Hocksbigg wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:45 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... HVAC wrote: wrote in message ... I've never been so busy. Seriously. I do commercial only and all I can say is WHAT recession? Now we know who you do commercials FOR - Brobama ! I've said it before and I'll say it again..... It's only a recession if you don't have work. And your only an ignorant asshole if you work in HVAC. The same could be said of insert your vocation here. You starting this crap again? Most guys who work in HVAC couldn't get a job at a fast food place. Nice troll, dumbass. Troll? Ive several aquaintences who do HVAC...and it appears to be a true statement. I've seen some who were too stupid to place the system inside the marks painted on the floor of an equipment room. Eight systems, and not one within three feet of where it belonged. The morons screamed that they wouldn't move them, till their boss was called to remove everything from the pair of new buildings. It was a new college campus. Another used so much flex that you couldn't get into the attic of a new building, and the morons ripped out the wiring for the fire alarm system. Gotta love it when they go with the lowest bid and they got what they paid for. They didn't hire you. They couldn't afford me. Besides I don't do new construction, there is no money in it, I make more money sitting in my recliner. |
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