Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Thanks,

kiwanda

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT), Kiwanda
wrote:

Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

You oughta be able to get 20 yrs out of 50yr Asphalt shingle--- but
I'm kinda looking at the steel shingles for a job I'll need to do in
the next decade sometime. [replacing 30yr old asphalt that still looks
good- but is brittle.]

I haven't gotten past the 'looks like they have the advantages of
steel but still look like shingles' stage.

Jim

On Aug 25, 4:45*pm, Kiwanda wrote:
Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. *I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? *Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Thanks,

kiwanda

A Holmes episode on TV recently showed steel shingles being installed
on a condo. Nice looking, big, easy to deal with panels, seemed to go
on rather quickly. Since the TV show is Canadian, their products may
or may not differ from what we have available. Regardless, metal
roofing is showing up more and more these days. Haven't checked all
the box stores, but local Menards, for example, has metal roofing from
nearby McElroy metal mill.
If you want long warranties, the metal shingle people seem to have
them. Definitely worth checking out. Like many, I feel a bit uneasy
about the anomalies in weather any more. That might be a deal maker
for a metal roof of some sort.

Joe

Kiwanda wrote:
Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?
....

This is serious hail country, too...SW KS.

There are quite a few steel here both the individual shingles and the
regular steel metal roofing. Depends in large part on the house and any
applicable zoning and/or covenants, of course. The one problem w/ steel
in large hail is while it may not actually fail it can be dented and
that is a cosmetic issue w/ many as it may be a long time in that
condition. I would not recommend the alternate Al for that reason.

The other that is making inroads here is the recycled material shingles
-- they've got higher survival ratings than asphalt but we've not had a
really severe hail in town (lots of killer hails around; just since it's
rural area and towns are small chances of any particular one of them
getting hit is fairly small) since the last big 'un so I've not seen how
they actually hold up.

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:45:37 -0700, Kiwanda wrote:

Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should look
into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles? Particular
brands? Other products like steel?

Hmm, I see a few barns around here (I'm also in MN) with metal roofs -
most of them with awful corrosion patches and streaks. If that's the way
they go on houses too (and possibly not covered by warranty if they do,
because it's not considered structural or a manufacturing defect) I think
I'd steer clear.

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof once
or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Most asphalt shingles seem to be guaranteed for at least 30 years these
days, but as with the steel I'm not sure what the terms of the warranty
are and if the suppliers manage to weasel out of all but the most
catastrophic failures...

(can you get tile or slate around here? Where I used to live it was
pretty much all that, and roofs would last more or less forever)

cheers

Jules

Jules Richardson wrote:
....

Hmm, I see a few barns around here (I'm also in MN) with metal roofs -
most of them with awful corrosion patches and streaks. If that's the way
they go on houses too (and possibly not covered by warranty if they do,
because it's not considered structural or a manufacturing defect) I think
I'd steer clear.

You have any idea how old those may be? I'd guess quite altho some may
have chosen seconds for barn roofing material...

....

Most asphalt shingles seem to be guaranteed for at least 30 years these
days, but as with the steel I'm not sure what the terms of the warranty
are and if the suppliers manage to weasel out of all but the most
catastrophic failures...

That doesn't count much for hail -- a brand new roof today can be
totaled tomorrow night in severe hail no matter what the longevity
rating is for normal weather. That's not a roofing material warranty
responsibility, that's the reason one has homeowners' insurance.

(can you get tile or slate around here? Where I used to live it was
pretty much all that, and roofs would last more or less forever)
....

Ever seen tile or slate after baseball+ hail and 70 mph winds? Not so
much...

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On 8/25/2010 4:45 PM, Kiwanda wrote:
Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Thanks,

kiwanda

thick assed timberline 35 yr shingles for a traditional look.

steel roofing for a lifetime of no maintainence.

--
Steve Barker
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Kiwanda wrote:
Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Thanks,

kiwanda

One of the things to remember is some roofs will qualify for a tax
credit.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...edits.tx_index

"Kiwanda" wrote in message
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Big hail storm through last month here in Minnesota and we'll be
replacing the roof. Current is basic builder-quality asphalt shingles
and the roof line isn't too complex. I'm wondering what we should
look into as options for the new roof. Class 4 rated shingles?
Particular brands? Other products like steel?

I'm interested in overall cost of course but also conscious that we'll
be in the house for 20+ years so if I can avoid replacing the roof
once or twice in that period an upgrade may be well worth it.

Thanks,

kiwanda

Personally, I'd get whatever the insurance pays for. Steel is WAY too
expensive for my budget. If you're in a hail area I'd get 20yr shingles.
You're just going to have to replace them anyway. Keep the deductible ready
in the bank for the next storm. You'd have to have quite a few bad storms to
warrant the cost of a steel shingle roof. Just my opinion.

Jim