On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:03:51 +0000 (UTC), "Smarty"
wrote:

As grandparents, my wife and I do frequent toddler babysitting.

The kitchen cabinets, drawers, and other compartments are very tempting
for our grand-daughter to investigate. We are looking for a way to keep
this closed and inaccessible to a young child, while still allowing
adults to easily open and close the doors and drawers.

Unlike 30 years ago when our own children were toddlers, we now have
very high quality custom cabinetry and drawers, and do NOT want to
drill or attach any fasteners which deface or damage the cabinets /
doors. The fasteners were used 30 years ago required drilling holes
into both the doors and the cabinets in order to attach the plastic
latches. This is NOT an option for our current cabinets.

Does anybody know of any device or fastener or method which provides a
secure and reliable latch to children, easy access to adults, and easy
removal without leaving any permanent damage to the custom cabinetry?

Thanks in advance for your assistance and suggestions.

The UTMOST concern is the toddler. NOT your aesthetic desires.

Put up child gates to keep him/her out of the kitchen. Move anything
hazardous to higher shelves.

-Zz

On Jul 3, 7:20*pm, Zz Yzx wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:03:51 +0000 (UTC), "Smarty"
wrote:



As grandparents, my wife and I do frequent toddler babysitting.

The kitchen cabinets, drawers, and other compartments are very tempting
for our grand-daughter to investigate. We are looking for a way to keep
this closed and inaccessible to a young child, while still allowing
adults to easily open and close the doors and drawers.

Unlike 30 years ago when our own children were toddlers, we now have
very high quality custom cabinetry and drawers, and do NOT want to
drill or attach any fasteners which deface or damage the cabinets /
doors. The fasteners were used 30 years ago required drilling holes
into both the doors and the cabinets in order to attach the plastic
latches. This is NOT an option for our current cabinets.

Does anybody know of any device or fastener or method which provides a
secure and reliable latch to children, easy access to adults, and easy
removal without leaving any permanent damage to the custom cabinetry?

Thanks in advance for your assistance and suggestions.

The UTMOST concern is the toddler. *NOT your aesthetic desires.

Put up child gates to keep him/her out of the kitchen. *Move anything
hazardous to higher shelves.

-Zz

==
We put up a child gate for the youngest girl and she figured out how
to open it in no time. She would also stick her foot through the bars
of her crib and propel herself around to where the drawers were and
investigate the contents. Smart little fart.
==

On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:20:37 -0700, Zz Yzx wrote:

On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:03:51 +0000 (UTC), "Smarty"
wrote:

As grandparents, my wife and I do frequent toddler babysitting.

The kitchen cabinets, drawers, and other compartments are very tempting
for our grand-daughter to investigate. We are looking for a way to keep
this closed and inaccessible to a young child, while still allowing
adults to easily open and close the doors and drawers.

Unlike 30 years ago when our own children were toddlers, we now have
very high quality custom cabinetry and drawers, and do NOT want to
drill or attach any fasteners which deface or damage the cabinets /
doors. The fasteners were used 30 years ago required drilling holes
into both the doors and the cabinets in order to attach the plastic
latches. This is NOT an option for our current cabinets.

Does anybody know of any device or fastener or method which provides a
secure and reliable latch to children, easy access to adults, and easy
removal without leaving any permanent damage to the custom cabinetry?

Thanks in advance for your assistance and suggestions.

The UTMOST concern is the toddler. NOT your aesthetic desires.

Put up child gates to keep him/her out of the kitchen. Move anything
hazardous to higher shelves.

Gates don't work. Even for the short time they do, assume they don't. It is
imperative that anything hazardous goes as high as possible. When the brat
was a toddler we put all the cleaning supplies in the cabinet above the sink
and the cereal below.

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Gates don't work. Even for the short time they do, assume they don't. It is
imperative that anything hazardous goes as high as possible. When the brat
was a toddler we put all the cleaning supplies in the cabinet above the sink
and the cereal below.

Wouldn't work in my house...my (now grown) children used the drawers in
the lower cabinets as a ladder.

On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 22:59:31 -0400, "
wrote:

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Gates don't work. Even for the short time they do, assume they don't. It is
imperative that anything hazardous goes as high as possible. When the brat
was a toddler we put all the cleaning supplies in the cabinet above the sink
and the cereal below.

Wouldn't work in my house...my (now grown) children used the drawers in
the lower cabinets as a ladder.

Well, we also used a bicycle lock-looking widgets through the door handles
that took more finger strength to open than a kid can muster.

Wouldn't work in my house...my (now grown) children used the drawers in
the lower cabinets as a ladder.

My youngest girl (now 19) was a monkey too. Once, while my wife was
in the shower, she climbed up onto the counter and playfully dropped
ALL the stemware onto the floor, just to watch each glass
disintegrate.

We found a fix though: a "play penitentiary". We turned a play pen
upside down over her, while my wife showered.

-Zz

Zz Yzx wrote:
Wouldn't work in my house...my (now grown) children used the drawers in
the lower cabinets as a ladder.

My youngest girl (now 19) was a monkey too. Once, while my wife was
in the shower, she climbed up onto the counter and playfully dropped
ALL the stemware onto the floor, just to watch each glass
disintegrate.

We found a fix though: a "play penitentiary". We turned a play pen
upside down over her, while my wife showered.

-Zz

I enjoyed the age that my children were grown, no longer feared
punishment and told me some of what they got away with. I still tell
one daughter (age 39) that I'm going to check her high school file to
see how many excuses for absences have my signature and how many were
forged...but now she has a teenager of her own, so justice has been
served )

One chiller that still scares me was when she and girlfriend, both about
12, rode mopeds about 100 mi. on the interstate.

My brother and I once built a campfire in the woods that got out of
hand. We started to run away but went back and beat it out with our new
jackets. We were scared out of our minds and in leaving the woods saw a
whole line of fire trucks parked in the lot...holy god! Our dad's a
firefighter, he'll find out and WE ARE DEAD. Oooooohhh...it's only Fire
Prevention Day and they're just having a little show. Had to lie about
losing our jackets, and I'm sure my mom could smell smoke on us, but we
lived. )

On 04 Jul 2010 19:10:28 GMT, RobertPatrick wrote:

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On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 22:59:31 -0400, "
wrote:

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Gates don't work. Even for the short time they do, assume they
don't. It is imperative that anything hazardous goes as high as
possible. When the brat was a toddler we put all the cleaning
supplies in the cabinet above the sink and the cereal below.

Wouldn't work in my house...my (now grown) children used the drawers
in the lower cabinets as a ladder.

Well, we also used a bicycle lock-looking widgets through the door
handles that took more finger strength to open than a kid can muster.


They worked for a while. Then my kids figured out how to get into them.
They were only about 3 or 4 at the time.

The ones we had took quite a bit of finger strength to open. If that doesn't
work bicycle locks are available. Of course maybe they'll pick it but that
might be a valuable skill for them down the road. ;-)