Freezer question, your experience.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:33:39 -0500, Sqwertz
wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:20:17 +0100, john hamilton wrote: We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on the top. Why do people prefer chest freezers? Uprights take up less floor space (you can't stack stuff on top of your chest freezer), and with a moderately full freezer, you have remove a bunch of stuff to get what you're looking for - even if you can find it at all. How may times have we heard the comment "Found xyz in my chest freezer. I think it's nnn years old.". And then possibly "is it still good?" Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. Just how this impacts on electricity usage in the real world, I don't know. *If* it does at all... The big downside with chest freezers you've already mentioned :) OTOH, if you have a need to put something large in a freezer (the neighbours body... or whatever) - then the chest freezer would be ideal. I currently have a chest freezer, but am considering an upright as a future replacement. |
Freezer question, your experience.
In article , Jeßus wrote:
Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. |
Freezer question, your experience.
Jeßus wrote:
-snip- Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. Just how this impacts on electricity usage in the real world, I don't know. *If* it does at all... I suspect I've lost more $ with the chest freezers I've owned through lost food than I have through the 'air dump' of the uprights. [minimized by keeping the freezer full- even if it is just jugs of ice or bread.] The big downside with chest freezers you've already mentioned :) OTOH, if you have a need to put something large in a freezer (the neighbours body... or whatever) - then the chest freezer would be ideal. My neighbor wasn't that big-- but a few minutes with my electric chainsaw & he fit in my upright just fine.g I currently have a chest freezer, but am considering an upright as a future replacement. I've owned both & prefer the upright for most use. If I was buying a whole cow every year I might consider a dedicated 'beef freezer'. Jim |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:19:56 +1000, Jeßus wrote:
The big downside with chest freezers you've already mentioned :) OTOH, if you have a need to put something large in a freezer (the neighbours body... or whatever) - then the chest freezer would be ideal. Take out the shelves and stand them upright. Ever try and stuff a rigor mortis'ed body into a chest freezer? -sw |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? -sw |
Freezer question, your experience.
In article , Sqwertz wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? BTW, there's no such thing as "non-pressurized air". The air you're breathing right now has a pressure of 1 atmosphere, equal to about 14.7 pounds per square inch. |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:40:45 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? BTW, there's no such thing as "non-pressurized air". The air you're breathing right now has a pressure of 1 atmosphere, equal to about 14.7 pounds per square inch. jeez, no wonder i'm wheezing. i thought it was the cigarettes. your pal, blake |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:40:45 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? Yes. All my scales currently read "0". Yet sitting on top of them are billions of cubic feet of air. OK, So I had to look it. I don't know the logic behind it, but 1 cubic foot of air at standard temperature and pressure assuming average composition weighs approximately 0.0807 lbs. So to understand your comment, one would have to know the weight of 0F (approximately) air and then convert that to cubic feet to get any sort of sense what the **** you actually mean. Anybody know that off the top of their head? (Some dumbass will of course look it up, post it, and claim they knew it. but this is Usenet - **** like that is a given). -sw |
Freezer question, your experience.
"Sqwertz" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:40:45 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? Yes. All my scales currently read "0". Yet sitting on top of them are billions of cubic feet of air. OK, So I had to look it. I don't know the logic behind it, but 1 cubic foot of air at standard temperature and pressure assuming average composition weighs approximately 0.0807 lbs. So to understand your comment, one would have to know the weight of 0F (approximately) air and then convert that to cubic feet to get any sort of sense what the **** you actually mean. Anybody know that off the top of their head? (Some dumbass will of course look it up, post it, and claim they knew it. but this is Usenet - **** like that is a given). lol -- -- https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:24:01 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:40:45 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Sqwertz wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In article , Jeßus wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? Yes. All my scales currently read "0". Yet sitting on top of them are billions of cubic feet of air. Let us know when you own a scale that has 5 sides in a vacuum and just the measuring part exposed to air. |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:01:52 -0400, Larry wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:17:29 -0400, wrote: Doug Miller wrote: In , wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In , Je?us wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? BTW, there's no such thing as "non-pressurized air". The air you're breathing right now has a pressure of 1 atmosphere, equal to about 14.7 pounds per square inch. My ATV tires take 3 psi yet they don't collapse! Read up on atmospheric pressure. It's 3PSI above atmospheric presure, dumbass. At sea level, moron? You can't possibly be that stupid. It's an act, right? |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:38:51 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:01:52 -0400, Larry wrote: AZ Nomad wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:17:29 -0400, wrote: Doug Miller wrote: In , wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:48:30 GMT, Doug Miller wrote: In , Je?us wrote: Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside. How does non-pressurized air have weight? The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing? BTW, there's no such thing as "non-pressurized air". The air you're breathing right now has a pressure of 1 atmosphere, equal to about 14.7 pounds per square inch. My ATV tires take 3 psi yet they don't collapse! Read up on atmospheric pressure. It's 3PSI above atmospheric presure, dumbass. At sea level, moron? You can't possibly be that stupid. It's an act, right? Sorry Larry. I don't know you if anybody asks. -sw |
Freezer question, your experience.
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Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:52:48 -0400, Jim Elbrecht
wrote: Jeßus wrote: -snip- Both types have pros and cons - I've always been under the impression that the upright types allow a lot of coldness to 'escape' when the door is open compared to chest freezers. Just how this impacts on electricity usage in the real world, I don't know. *If* it does at all... I suspect I've lost more $ with the chest freezers I've owned through lost food than I have through the 'air dump' of the uprights. [minimized by keeping the freezer full- even if it is just jugs of ice or bread.] That is true, a lot of stuff tends to stay buried at the bottom - if you're not vigilant. The big downside with chest freezers you've already mentioned :) OTOH, if you have a need to put something large in a freezer (the neighbours body... or whatever) - then the chest freezer would be ideal. My neighbor wasn't that big-- but a few minutes with my electric chainsaw & he fit in my upright just fine.g You chopped up your freezer with a chainsaw?!? :p I currently have a chest freezer, but am considering an upright as a future replacement. I've owned both & prefer the upright for most use. If I was buying a whole cow every year I might consider a dedicated 'beef freezer'. Yeah, I'm going for an upright next time, but keeping the old chest freezer for emergencies... or for the larger neighbours. |
Freezer question, your experience.
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:05:09 -0500, Sqwertz
wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:19:56 +1000, Jeßus wrote: The big downside with chest freezers you've already mentioned :) OTOH, if you have a need to put something large in a freezer (the neighbours body... or whatever) - then the chest freezer would be ideal. Take out the shelves and stand them upright. Ever try and stuff a rigor mortis'ed body into a chest freezer? I'd wait until the rigor passed, or maybe brine them in the bathtub instead? |
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