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I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I
know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
"bob callaway" wrote in message ... What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? You don't say where you are, and it makes a difference. Corn Glutton is very good to keep weed seeds from germinating, but must be used before seeds germinate. Whatever, do NOT use poison / herbicide such as Round Up. A very effective way to get rid of weeds, and also good for yourself, is to pull them - probably the best way. Bob-tx |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
bob callaway wrote:
What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? A lush St Augistine lawn will choke most out, so properly tending to the grass - and keeping it neatly mowed - will be a big help. As for the rest, it depends entirely on the type of weed as to which poison is appropriate. Ask at your local lawn and garden shop. Take a sample weed. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway"
wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Is St. Augustine somehow different from other grass? I generally just apply fertilizer with a broadleaf weed killer in the spring, after the second or third mowing. Something like (but pretty much any brand will do): http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...roId=prod70020 |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:56:34 -0400, "
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Is St. Augustine somehow different from other grass? I generally just apply fertilizer with a broadleaf weed killer in the spring, after the second or third mowing. Something like (but pretty much any brand will do): http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...roId=prod70020 St. Augustine is very different and requires special herbicides. Weed BGone always worked for us for BROADLEAF weeds...used it when hubby was building manager for our condo. We had loads of dollar weed and other broadleaafs...WBG killed almost all of the dollar weed first appl. It is not necessary to use every year...once treated, with proper mowing and watering, only spot treatment is needed. Grassy weeds, like goose grass, need other herbicides and very careful timing because they are pre-emergents herbicides. Have to be careful with WBG not to get it on shrubs and other broadleaf plants. There is a caution, I think, about using in root zones but it never hurt any other plants when we used it. Weeds should be "actively growing", so we would fertilize and then treat for weeds about two weeks later. WBG, last time I used it, was labeled for St. Augustine specifically; don't use an herbicide that is not. Don't want to use when weather is very hot/dry. The link above does say it's for St. Augustine. I've used similar products on Kentucky Blue, Creeping Red Fescue, and the Zoysia we have now, all with good results. Zoysia is another species that grows so dense nothing else has a chance. Well, I do see a little clover since it wakes up earlier in the spring. A slow-release fertilizer is also best to use. $cott's is a brand I avoid; It's only a little on the pricey side. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 14, 4:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote:
What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 14, 8:10*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:09:47 -0500, " wrote: Is St. Augustine somehow different from other grass? *I generally just apply fertilizer with a broadleaf weed killer in the spring, after the second or third mowing. * St Augustine is a weed but it is about the only thing that grows in Florida. It is probably Floratam. They have plenty of chemicals to keep this weed going but I won't screw with it. Too much water required to keep it alive and too much maintenance (there are some bugs that just love it). *Plant Bahia after it dies out from a drought and get on with your life. Bahia?? I hope that was a joke. Ok for pastures but definitely a bad choice for a lawn with it's 12" overnight growth seed heads. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:56:34 -0400, " wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Is St. Augustine somehow different from other grass? I generally just apply fertilizer with a broadleaf weed killer in the spring, after the second or third mowing. Something like (but pretty much any brand will do): http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...roId=prod70020 St. Augustine is very different and requires special herbicides. Weed BGone always worked for us for BROADLEAF weeds...used it when hubby was building manager for our condo. We had loads of dollar weed and other broadleaafs...WBG killed almost all of the dollar weed first appl. It is not necessary to use every year...once treated, with proper mowing and watering, only spot treatment is needed. Grassy weeds, like goose grass, need other herbicides and very careful timing because they are pre-emergents herbicides. Have to be careful with WBG not to get it on shrubs and other broadleaf plants. There is a caution, I think, about using in root zones but it never hurt any other plants when we used it. Weeds should be "actively growing", so we would fertilize and then treat for weeds about two weeks later. WBG, last time I used it, was labeled for St. Augustine specifically; don't use an herbicide that is not. Don't want to use when weather is very hot/dry. The link above does say it's for St. Augustine. I've used similar products on Kentucky Blue, Creeping Red Fescue, and the Zoysia we have now, all with good results. Zoysia is another species that grows so dense nothing else has a chance. Well, I do see a little clover since it wakes up earlier in the spring. A slow-release fertilizer is also best to use. $cott's is a brand I avoid; It's only a little on the pricey side. Scott's sells a lot of chemical that is not needed..."if a little is good, a lot is a hell of a lot better"...nobody needs routine weed control. Proper mowing, feeding and watering will do a great deal to keep weeds down. All-over weed control might be good once; after that, maintenance will keep weeds down. Hand pulling one weed might get rid of hundreds of seeds...common sense. If they begin to get out of control, then spot treat. IMO, Scotts are like the exterminators who will not do a one time treatment but insist on only selling "programs" that overdose the environ with poison. There are different versions of Weed B Gone, or were last time I shopped. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
JIMMIE wrote:
On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Roundup kills everything, including grass. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:12:01 -0400, "
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:56:34 -0400, " wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Is St. Augustine somehow different from other grass? I generally just apply fertilizer with a broadleaf weed killer in the spring, after the second or third mowing. Something like (but pretty much any brand will do): http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...roId=prod70020 St. Augustine is very different and requires special herbicides. Weed BGone always worked for us for BROADLEAF weeds...used it when hubby was building manager for our condo. We had loads of dollar weed and other broadleaafs...WBG killed almost all of the dollar weed first appl. It is not necessary to use every year...once treated, with proper mowing and watering, only spot treatment is needed. Grassy weeds, like goose grass, need other herbicides and very careful timing because they are pre-emergents herbicides. Have to be careful with WBG not to get it on shrubs and other broadleaf plants. There is a caution, I think, about using in root zones but it never hurt any other plants when we used it. Weeds should be "actively growing", so we would fertilize and then treat for weeds about two weeks later. WBG, last time I used it, was labeled for St. Augustine specifically; don't use an herbicide that is not. Don't want to use when weather is very hot/dry. The link above does say it's for St. Augustine. I've used similar products on Kentucky Blue, Creeping Red Fescue, and the Zoysia we have now, all with good results. Zoysia is another species that grows so dense nothing else has a chance. Well, I do see a little clover since it wakes up earlier in the spring. A slow-release fertilizer is also best to use. $cott's is a brand I avoid; It's only a little on the pricey side. Scott's sells a lot of chemical that is not needed..."if a little is good, a lot is a hell of a lot better"...nobody needs routine weed control. Sure. The reason for the early application of the broadleaf/crabgrass killer is to get it as it emerges. You don't know it's there until it does and then it's too late to do anything about it. It's a lot easier to nip this stuff in the bud, so to speak. Proper mowing, feeding and watering will do a great deal to keep weeds down. All-over weed control might be good once; after that, maintenance will keep weeds down. Sure, that's pretty much what I do. Watering isn't always possible, however. Weeds can get a foothold pretty quickly. Hand pulling one weed might get rid of hundreds of seeds...common sense. If they begin to get out of control, then spot treat. IMO, Scotts are like the exterminators who will not do a one time treatment but insist on only selling "programs" that overdose the environ with poison. The "poisons" are very short lived. Like I said, I do it once in the spring and fertilize once in the late summer or early fall. ...and pile on the ant killer by the ton. ;-) There are different versions of Weed B Gone, or were last time I shopped. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 14, 7:50*pm, JIMMIE wrote:
On Mar 14, 4:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 14, 3:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote:
What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Ron wrote:
On Mar 14, 7:50 pm, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. Resod 3 x in 8 years?!! That's insane. You in Florida? Sounds like Florida lawns....we couldn't kill our lawn 3 x in 8 years if we tried :o) Common mistake here is to treat for chinch bugs when the actual problem is watering too much or wrong time of day so the lawn stays wet too long. Water deep, early morning, 2x week. St. Augustine can look a little wilty before it needs water badly. Weed and feed 2x year is overkill. No lawn should need all-over herbicide 2x year. Slow release nitrogen, cheap version, does very nicely. My mom used indoor/outdoor "program" for pest control .. could smell the malathion indoors with the house closed up. I don't worry about the bugs that live outdoors, but kill the ones that come indoors. Our condo had carpenter ant infestations all around the property and with two units having bad indoor infestations when we moved here...cleaned up dead wood in hedges, trimmed trees, repaired damaged wood on outside of bldg., repaired damaged roof and the carpenter ants were gone and haven't returned. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 15, 9:03*pm, Ron wrote:
On Mar 14, 3:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Globe sedge is what it's called, and it is very hard to get rid of. Some lawn services won't even guarantee complete removal. http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/Sedge_Globe.aspx |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 15, 9:15*pm, "
wrote: Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 7:50 pm, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. Resod 3 x in 8 years?!! That's insane. *You in Florida? *Sounds like Florida lawns....we couldn't kill our lawn 3 x in 8 years if we tried :o) *Common mistake here is to treat for chinch bugs when the actual problem is watering too much or wrong time of day so the lawn stays wet too long. *Water deep, early morning, 2x week. *St. Augustine can look a little wilty before it needs water badly. *Weed and feed 2x year is overkill. *No lawn should need all-over herbicide 2x year. *Slow release nitrogen, cheap version, does very nicely. My mom used indoor/outdoor "program" for pest control .. could smell the malathion indoors with the house closed up. *I don't worry about the bugs that live outdoors, but kill the ones that come indoors. *Our condo had carpenter ant infestations all around the property and with two units having bad indoor infestations when we moved here...cleaned up dead wood in hedges, trimmed trees, repaired damaged wood on outside of bldg., repaired damaged roof and the carpenter ants were gone and haven't returned. Yep, Orlando. Like I said, home 1 lawn fine with little work. Home 2 lawn sucks. No matter what I've tried I couldn't keep it alive. I'm done with it. Obviously this cul-de-sac is just a bad area to try and have a nice lawn. Had a neighbor that re-sodded theirs 2 yrs ago, and now 75% of it is weeds. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Ron wrote:
On Mar 14, 3:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. We have a nasty pest in Florida, one of many household plants that become invasive...asparagus fern. Not a fern, but a nasty, spiky vine with lots of tubers. They bear berries that birds carry off and really mess up hedges, etc. Cut to the ground, wait for new growth to reach about 3" and then paint with a brush and Roundup. Rather fussy, but much easier than trying to dig them up. Did same with a few lawn weeds that were tough. Would work nicely for the occasional dandelion. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Ron wrote:
On Mar 15, 9:03 pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 3:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Globe sedge is what it's called, and it is very hard to get rid of. Some lawn services won't even guarantee complete removal. http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/Sedge_Globe.aspx Our lawn service and the neighbor's were surprised when we got rid of dollar weed (southern version) with Weed B Gone. Worked very quickly on a lawn that was covered with it. The little that remained was spot treated and S.A. grass fills in pretty quickly...good reason to use after fertilizing grass. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
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Yep, Orlando. Like I said, home 1 lawn fine with little work. Home 2 lawn sucks. No matter what I've tried I couldn't keep it alive. I'm done with it. Obviously this cul-de-sac is just a bad area to try and have a nice lawn. Had a neighbor that re-sodded theirs 2 yrs ago, and now 75% of it is weeds. The first time I walked barefoot on St. Augustine grass it gave me creeps. I've gotten accustomed to most Florida stuff :o) Our condo lawn was half dead and badly neglected when we moved in, partly due to a broken down irrig. system. When my husband and I worked on it, it took a full two years to get rid of all of the nasty crap people had planted around patios, etc. We fert. 3x year, which is what U. of Fla. recommends for "medium maintenance" lawn. We got a lush, healthy weed free lawn. I'm not into spending all my time and money growing grass, but know proper practices will keep it healthy and attractive. I've watched other people dump bag after bag of poison on the lawn (which adjoins waterway) trying to kill fire ants....a little bit of Amdro, used properly, goes a long way. We never broadcast it, just sprinkle along pavement and around mounds. When we were spending a lot of time making repairs, we noticed how the bug populations ebbed and waned...lot of fire ants, no mole crickets. Mole crickets eat everything, but fire ants eat their babies :o) http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/topics/lawngarden/index.html |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Ron wrote:
On Mar 15, 9:15 pm, " wrote: Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 7:50 pm, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. Resod 3 x in 8 years?!! That's insane. You in Florida? Sounds like Florida lawns....we couldn't kill our lawn 3 x in 8 years if we tried :o) Common mistake here is to treat for chinch bugs when the actual problem is watering too much or wrong time of day so the lawn stays wet too long. Water deep, early morning, 2x week. St. Augustine can look a little wilty before it needs water badly. Weed and feed 2x year is overkill. No lawn should need all-over herbicide 2x year. Slow release nitrogen, cheap version, does very nicely. My mom used indoor/outdoor "program" for pest control .. could smell the malathion indoors with the house closed up. I don't worry about the bugs that live outdoors, but kill the ones that come indoors. Our condo had carpenter ant infestations all around the property and with two units having bad indoor infestations when we moved here...cleaned up dead wood in hedges, trimmed trees, repaired damaged wood on outside of bldg., repaired damaged roof and the carpenter ants were gone and haven't returned. Yep, Orlando. Like I said, home 1 lawn fine with little work. Home 2 lawn sucks. No matter what I've tried I couldn't keep it alive. I'm done with it. Obviously this cul-de-sac is just a bad area to try and have a nice lawn. Had a neighbor that re-sodded theirs 2 yrs ago, and now 75% of it is weeds. You water with reclaimed water? |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 8:41*am, "
wrote: Ron wrote: On Mar 15, 9:15 pm, " wrote: Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 7:50 pm, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. Resod 3 x in 8 years?!! That's insane. *You in Florida? *Sounds like Florida lawns....we couldn't kill our lawn 3 x in 8 years if we tried :o) *Common mistake here is to treat for chinch bugs when the actual problem is watering too much or wrong time of day so the lawn stays wet too long. *Water deep, early morning, 2x week. *St. Augustine can look a little wilty before it needs water badly. *Weed and feed 2x year is overkill. *No lawn should need all-over herbicide 2x year. *Slow release nitrogen, cheap version, does very nicely. My mom used indoor/outdoor "program" for pest control .. could smell the malathion indoors with the house closed up. *I don't worry about the bugs that live outdoors, but kill the ones that come indoors. *Our condo had carpenter ant infestations all around the property and with two units having bad indoor infestations when we moved here...cleaned up dead wood in hedges, trimmed trees, repaired damaged wood on outside of bldg., repaired damaged roof and the carpenter ants were gone and haven't returned. Yep, Orlando. Like I said, home 1 lawn fine with little work. Home 2 lawn sucks. No matter what I've tried I couldn't keep it alive. I'm done with it. Obviously this cul-de-sac is just a bad area to try and have a nice lawn. Had a neighbor that re-sodded theirs 2 yrs ago, and now 75% of it is weeds. You water with reclaimed water? Nope. And don't water at all now...lol No grass and a lower water bill....still have to mow the damn weeds though. Gotta mow today after all the rain we had last week. Wish I could afford one of those artificial lawns. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 15, 6:03*pm, Ron wrote:
On Mar 14, 3:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Weed and Feed will kill St. Augustine grass. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
so wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:03 pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 3:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Weed and Feed will kill St. Augustine grass. It won't if you water it in. It will kill the grass only if it stays in the gress blades. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 3:44*pm, so wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:03*pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 3:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Weed and Feed will kill St. Augustine grass. Wrong. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Ron
wrote: Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. "Sand Spurs", we called them. As a kid we had "sand spur" fights. If you step on them bare footed, at the beach, they can be a PITA to get them out ;) pic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St..._echinatus.jpg "The common sandbur or coastal sandbur (Cenchrus spinifex) is a perennial grass that grows from 5 to 30 inches high in sandy or gravelly terrain. It is found throughout the southern United States.." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenchrus We got rid of them with a shovel or burning.. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 6:53*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. "Sand Spurs", we called them. Not the same thing as what I'm talking about. Globe sedge. http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/Sedge_Globe.aspx Damn seeds spread like crazy if you mow them. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Ron
wrote: On Mar 16, 6:53*pm, Oren wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:03:49 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. "Sand Spurs", we called them. Not the same thing as what I'm talking about. Globe sedge. http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/Sedge_Globe.aspx Damn seeds spread like crazy if you mow them. The only solution is a "search and destroy" mission. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 10:12*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: *A climate where everything else grows as well. *One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. *Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Hence, an abundance of weeds. *You have gotten some good advice here with specific weeds. *Your local nursery and co-op should be able to help you, too. *Look into pre-emergent herbicides, and these, if applied at EXACTLY the right time, can cut down on a LOT. Spendy, though. HTH Steve And always cut with the mower deck at 4". |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Steve B wrote:
My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: A climate where everything else grows as well. One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Whaaaaaat? Florida? Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Hence, an abundance of weeds. You have gotten some good advice here with specific weeds. Your local nursery and co-op should be able to help you, too. Look into pre-emergent herbicides, and these, if applied at EXACTLY the right time, can cut down on a LOT. Spendy, though. HTH Steve |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 14, 11:13*pm, "
wrote: JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass.. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Roundup kills everything, including grass. Not if the grass is dormant when you apply it. Jimmie |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 15, 9:58*pm, Ron wrote:
On Mar 14, 7:50*pm, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 14, 4:27*pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? St Augustine grass usually needs little help. It will choke out just about anything if it is healthy. Best thing is to keep it watered and fertilized and it will do its thing. St Augustine does go dormant in the winter. If the weeds are coming up before it comes out of its dormant period you can go ahead and spray with Roundup and it wont hurt the grass. This gets rid of most weeds, wild onions and competing grasses. Jimmie Yeah, well that depends on where you live, what kind of seeds are being spread in the air, and what kind of bugs are present. At the last home that I owned all I did was water my St Augustine lawn and use some Scott's Weed and Feed once or twice a year. In the home I'm in now, I've re-sodded it 3 times in 8 yrs, and as of now I have nothing but weeds.....again And that was with watering, fertilizing, spot killing weeds, bug treatment (mostly for chinch bugs), re-sodding small areas that died, everything short of using a lawn service. It's gonna stay weeds now. As long as it's green I have other things to spend money on. F it. BTW, in the cul-de-sac that I live in, one person that uses a lawn service has a decent lawn, and she still gets brown patches every yr for whatever reason. In my last home, there were never any brown patches, and the turf was so thick you could walk on it with your bare feet. Ive only had to use roundup a few times on a newly sprigged lawn. This gave it the fighting chance it needed to take off. Only had chinch bug one time and Spectracide took care of that. Jimmie |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:05:25 -0400, "
wrote: Whaaaaaat? Florida? Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Just last week, became an open season on pythons and monitor lizards in Florida. Fire ants, walking catfish and Buffo toads have been there for years. *Save the oranges and berries |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 11:05*pm, "
wrote: Steve B wrote: My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: *A climate where everything else grows as well. *One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. *Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Whaaaaaat? *Florida? *Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. *Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. *But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. *Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Home 1 that I mentioned in this thread didn't have a sprinkler system. When it needed watering I used the spikes. One thing about that lawn though, it was lake front (back of house to the lake) and that part of the lawn looked awesome! Never had to do anything to it. And I'm talking about a LOT of St Augustine. Back yard was about 200' W by 150' D (depending on how high the lake was). First thing I did after buying that home was go to Sears and buy a 42" riding mower. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 16, 11:35*pm, Ron wrote:
On Mar 16, 11:05*pm, " wrote: Steve B wrote: My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: *A climate where everything else grows as well. *One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. *Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Whaaaaaat? *Florida? *Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. *Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. *But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. *Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Home 1 that I mentioned in this thread didn't have a sprinkler system. When it needed watering I used the spikes. One thing about that lawn though, it was lake front (back of house to the lake) and that part of the lawn looked awesome! Never had to do anything to it. And I'm talking about a LOT of St Augustine. Back yard was about 200' W by 150' D (depending on how high the lake was). First thing I did after buying that home was go to Sears and buy a 42" riding mower. How far down in Fl do you have to be for SA to stay green all year round? |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 17, 12:00*am, JIMMIE wrote:
On Mar 16, 11:35*pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 16, 11:05*pm, " wrote: Steve B wrote: My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: *A climate where everything else grows as well. *One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. *Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Whaaaaaat? *Florida? *Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. *Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. *But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. *Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Home 1 that I mentioned in this thread didn't have a sprinkler system. When it needed watering I used the spikes. One thing about that lawn though, it was lake front (back of house to the lake) and that part of the lawn looked awesome! Never had to do anything to it. And I'm talking about a LOT of St Augustine. Back yard was about 200' W by 150' D (depending on how high the lake was). First thing I did after buying that home was go to Sears and buy a 42" riding mower. How far down in Fl do you have to be for SA to stay green all year round? I'm in Orlando, and home 1 stayed green all yr long. Just didn't have to mow it in the "winter". |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Mar 17, 12:09*am, Ron wrote:
On Mar 17, 12:00*am, JIMMIE wrote: On Mar 16, 11:35*pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 16, 11:05*pm, " wrote: Steve B wrote: My experience with living where St. Augustine flourishes: *A climate where everything else grows as well. *One MUST mow their St. Augustine every week, or if you don't, you have to do more than one mowing to cut it down a little at a time. *Where St. Augustine flourishes, people don't know what an irrigation system is, as there is plenty of moisture and rainfall to keep it going. Whaaaaaat? *Florida? *Don't know anyone with S.A. grass who doesn't have an irrigation system....too much water in summer, none in winter. *Last year, Tampa was so dry they got down to forbidding lawn watering. *But, then, during the recent freeze the strawberry farms had to water to protect their crops and caused a rash of sink-hole collapses. *Ah, paradise...pythons, fire ants, monitor lizards, poisonous toads, walking catfish, tourists. Home 1 that I mentioned in this thread didn't have a sprinkler system. When it needed watering I used the spikes. One thing about that lawn though, it was lake front (back of house to the lake) and that part of the lawn looked awesome! Never had to do anything to it. And I'm talking about a LOT of St Augustine. Back yard was about 200' W by 150' D (depending on how high the lake was). First thing I did after buying that home was go to Sears and buy a 42" riding mower. How far down in Fl do you have to be for SA to stay green all year round? I'm in Orlando, and home 1 stayed green all yr long. Just didn't have to mow it in the "winter". Let me add to that. I bought the home from a contractor, and he added about 2 ft of topsoil before laying the sod. The back and one side of that house was always in direct sun light, so it was very healthy. The home I own now, has no topsoil, so that doesn't help matters. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
Ron wrote:
On Mar 15, 9:03 pm, Ron wrote: On Mar 14, 3:27 pm, "bob callaway" wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? Scott's Weed and Feed if it's a nice healthy lawn. Unless you have those weeds that have "spurs". I can't think of the name of them right now, but there is only one product that will kill them. It's very expensive and you have to get it from a specialty store. Home Depot or Lowes doesn't carry it. Globe sedge is what it's called, and it is very hard to get rid of. Some lawn services won't even guarantee complete removal. http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Weeds/Sedge_Globe.aspx This sounds as pesky as Johnson Grass, a noxious weed. I purchased a fairly new home that had this stuff in it. I had to spray Roundup on 3/4 of it two years ago. My lawn looked disastrous all that summer. I interviewed two lawn pro's and they both told me to do the same thing. I was ready to rip the lawn out and rock it in as it is a small patch, in my front yard. This is a five-year process and I need to keep on top of it. This is my third summer coming up, and I have made quite a bit of progress. I just need to keep on top of it. You are not alone with lawn problems. Good luck, I wish I had the answer for you. |
I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
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I want to kill the weeds in my St. Augustine grass
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:27:32 -0500, "bob callaway"
wrote: What is the process to use to kill the weeds in my st. Augustine grass. I know it's not a overnight process, but I have to start somewhere? First step is to identify the "weeds." Not knowing that there's not too much to offer a practical solution. |
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