My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

Take a hard look at the furnace/AC system.

Unless you reasonably expect it to last another 5+ years without
major repair expense, seems likely that you would do well to take
advantage of the $1500 tax credit and replace the system soon.

Will

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:15:06 -0800 (PST), Rob Kiz wrote:

My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

"Rob Kiz" wrote in message
...
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob


As you said, I doubt you will add any savings for heat. The last 21 years
has seen some remarkable improvements in AC systems. I doubt your current
AC is more than 6 seer 8 on the outside. You can double either of those
seer ratings today.

Even with some of the lowest electric rates in the country, we spend about
the same to cool the house as we do to heat it.

21 years for a 90+ system is EOL time.
--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

On Mar 5, 11:15*am, Rob Kiz wrote:
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and *has an
Annula *Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

21 years is along time on thin high efficency heat exchangers, its
lived its life. New AC seer could cut your bill in half if you live in
an area where it gets alot of use and present seer is low, You should
find out what the Seer is of the AC and look at a Seer comparison
chart to figure out what you really might save. You can get a VSDC
motor that will cut yearly blower bills maybe 10% or more. Overall
control board electric consumption may be lower as well. With new high
efficency stuff and the VSDC motor get the 10yr or more warranty. You
need to get bids and run AC numbers to figure what savings might be.
At 21 years 1500$ its a good idea.

Rob Kiz wrote:
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.


Get two and save $3,000.

Heck, if you got ten you'd save $15,000.

A basic rule, at least for computers, is don't buy for the future because
when the future gets here the item will be cheaper.

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:15:06 -0800 (PST), Rob Kiz
wrote:

My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

I'm looking to replace my 12 year old units. (HVAC)

I have a 30% tax rebate coming for 2009 tax year for one brand new
garage door.

Anyway, I read this.

*
"The central air conditioner also needs a blower motor—which is
usually part of the furnace—to blow the cool air through the duct
system. The only way to ensure that your new air conditioner performs
at its rated efficiency, is to replace your heating system at the same
time. It’s especially recommended if your furnace is over 15 years
old. If you purchase a new energy-efficient air conditioner but
connect it to an older furnace and blower motor, your system will not
perform to its rated efficiency."

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=home.index

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:15:06 -0800 (PST), Rob Kiz
wrote:

My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob


Don't be fooled. You must qualify to get the residential energy
credit. Some do, some don't. I didn't!

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:08:18 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Rob Kiz wrote:
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.


Get two and save $3,000.

Heck, if you got ten you'd save $15,000.

A basic rule, at least for computers, is don't buy for the future because
when the future gets here the item will be cheaper.


The limit for the credit is $1500 and you must qualify to get any of
it.

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:15:06 -0800 (PST), Rob Kiz
wrote:

My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob
You will spend $8000 to get a $1500 tax credit to replace a perfectly
functioning high end furnace with something that is likely not as well
made?

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:01:34 -0500, "Colbyt"
wrote:


"Rob Kiz" wrote in message
...
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob


As you said, I doubt you will add any savings for heat. The last 21 years
has seen some remarkable improvements in AC systems. I doubt your current
AC is more than 6 seer 8 on the outside. You can double either of those
seer ratings today.

Even with some of the lowest electric rates in the country, we spend about
the same to cool the house as we do to heat it.

21 years for a 90+ system is EOL time.


If I ONLY paid $1000 to replace my AC with a unit that was 4 times as
efficient it would take over 10 years to pay for itself as little as
we generally have to use our AC. ( it runs about 4 - 7 days a year)

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:41:42 -0800 (PST), ransley
wrote:

On Mar 5, 11:15Â*am, Rob Kiz wrote:
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and Â*has an
Annula Â*Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

21 years is along time on thin high efficency heat exchangers, its
lived its life. New AC seer could cut your bill in half if you live in
an area where it gets alot of use and present seer is low, You should
find out what the Seer is of the AC and look at a Seer comparison
chart to figure out what you really might save. You can get a VSDC
motor that will cut yearly blower bills maybe 10% or more. Overall
control board electric consumption may be lower as well. With new high
efficency stuff and the VSDC motor get the 10yr or more warranty. You
need to get bids and run AC numbers to figure what savings might be.
At 21 years 1500$ its a good idea.
Does the weathermaker Infinity not already have a DC fan???

On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:42:11 -0500, Phisherman
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:08:18 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Rob Kiz wrote:
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.


Get two and save $3,000.

Heck, if you got ten you'd save $15,000.

A basic rule, at least for computers, is don't buy for the future because
when the future gets here the item will be cheaper.


The limit for the credit is $1500 and you must qualify to get any of
it.
Replacing a 94% unit with a 96% won't get you a full credit here.

"Rob Kiz" wrote
The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Invest $100 and have a reliable, honest, heater guy check it out. You won't
save from efficiency if you are at 94%, but if there are expensive repairs
ahead, it may pay to do it now. At that age, it could dies next week,
could go another 10 years. The AC side may be batter replaced now though,
if that qualifies.

On Mar 5, 10:09*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Rob Kiz" wrote

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and *has an
Annula *Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Invest $100 and have a reliable, honest, heater guy check it out. *You won't
save from efficiency if you are at 94%, but if there are expensive repairs
ahead, it may pay to do it now. * *At that age, it could dies next week,
could go another 10 years. *The AC side may be batter replaced now though,
if that qualifies.

How long do heat exchangers last, I think he has one of the aluminum
ones, I know it can fail fast if temp is higher than design, but even
21 years to me, just guessing , seems like a long time. Now older
steel exchangers are diferent and what would fail and does make a unit
junk is a cracked exchanger. Yes he should have the covers pulled and
loook at the exchangers condition for signs of its condition

Yes!

If you are going to live in that home the rest of your life, then it is a
good thing if you can do something to reduce your cost of living. Once it is
paid for, then your monthly expenses will be lower. A good thing!

As to return on your money, etc., seems to me this would be a "sure"
investment whereas I know some people who lost upwards of $100,000 in the
stock market recently and that is not a "sure" thing.

Then I just read the electric rates in my area are going up 20%. Rate
increases in the future seems to be a "sure" thing! (Newer furnaces are more
efficient electrically as well.)

96% Furnace...
http://www.bryant.com/products/furna...lution96.shtml

20 SEER A/C...
http://www.bryant.com/products/achea...volution.shtml



"Rob Kiz" wrote in message
My furnace is 21 years old and I am thinking of replacing it this year
to take advantage of the $1500 tax credit and hopefully save some
energy cost. The AC is the same age and would also be replaced.

The furnace is a Carrier Weathermaker Infinity (58SXi) and has an
Annula Fuel Utilization Efficiency rating of 94%.

The furnace runs fine. Outside of a rather expensice blower motor
replacement 10 years ago, I have had no problems.

I can't see getting a new furnace that would be much more efficient
than the current one, so no savings there. On the other hand, it is
pretty old and will eventually have to be replaced and I hate to miss
out on the $1500 tax credit.

Thanks in advance for your opinions on this.

Rob

That's well spoken.

--
Christopher A. Young
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You will spend $8000 to get a $1500 tax credit to replace a
perfectly
functioning high end furnace with something that is likely
not as well
made?