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Northe February 15th 10 02:49 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the same
red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the broken
pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.

What do the experts here recommend?

(Having learned my lesson, I will put a pipe in the ground to keep the
birdbath from being knocked over again.)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Northe
Green Valley, AZ

Eric in North TX February 15th 10 04:10 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Feb 15, 8:49*am, Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the same
red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the broken
pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.

What do the experts here recommend?

(Having learned my lesson, I will put a pipe in the ground to keep the
birdbath from being knocked over again.)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Northe
Green Valley, AZ


I've had good luck with JB weld and ceramics, aside from leaving a
telltale gray outline. Epoxy, of some sort, is your likely best choice.

dadiOH[_3_] February 15th 10 04:21 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the
same red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the
broken pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.


So use a regular epoxy (non-putty).

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hr(bob) [email protected] February 15th 10 05:22 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Feb 15, 10:21*am, "dadiOH" wrote:
Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the
same red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the
broken pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.


I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.


Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.


So use a regular epoxy (non-putty).

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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How about crazy glue?

Joe February 15th 10 05:27 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Feb 15, 10:21*am, "dadiOH" wrote:

snip


Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.


So use a regular epoxy (non-putty).


snip

Best choice.
Use a water-clear slow cure two part epoxy. Once cured, some JB WEld
for back up/reinforcement wouldn't hurt. Some china restoration shops
use cyanoacrylates (Whoopee Glue) which can be found now in a lot of
useful different formulations. Pricey but fast, one could get the
assembly together piece by piece in minutes. Again, an epoxy
reinforcement would add needed strength.

Joe

Joe February 15th 10 05:28 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Feb 15, 8:49*am, Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath.


snip


Have you bought your hunting license yet? G

Joe

aemeijers February 15th 10 08:05 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
dadiOH wrote:
Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the
same red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the
broken pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.


So use a regular epoxy (non-putty).

The stuff they sell for putting the cap blocks on those dry-stack
retaining walls should probably work, if you can squish the parts
together tight enough. Scrape off any excess that oozes out before it
sets up, of course. May have to do the repair in several stages, so you
can get the rope or webbing around it to clamp it. Doing it with epoxy
would likely cost more than a new birdbath.

--
aem sends...

The Daring Dufas[_6_] February 15th 10 10:44 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the same
red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the broken
pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm looking
for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to put the
pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.

What do the experts here recommend?

(Having learned my lesson, I will put a pipe in the ground to keep the
birdbath from being knocked over again.)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Northe
Green Valley, AZ



http://www.thistothat.com/

TDD

Oren[_2_] February 16th 10 12:35 AM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:44:40 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:


http://www.thistothat.com/

TDD


That link showed up here, before...a good reminder from you.


dadiOH[_3_] February 16th 10 02:57 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
aemeijers wrote:
dadiOH wrote:
Northe wrote:
A group of javalina (I live in Arizona) knocked over my ceramic
birdbath. The pedestal is hollow and made from what looks like the
same red clay used for flowerpots (glazed on the outside). All the
broken pieces are on one side, so the pedestal still stands up.

I have all the pieces, and they fit together tightly. What I'm
looking for is an appropriate weatherproof structural adhesive to
put the pedestal back together.

Since the pieces fit so well together, I don't believe that an epoxy
putty would work.


So use a regular epoxy (non-putty).


Doing it with epoxy would likely cost more than a new birdbath.


I guess that depends upon where you buy the epoxy...last I bought was $65
for 1 1/2 gallons. Just $15.50 for 24 oz. The little tubes (25 ml or so)
at HD, Lowes. Ace, etc are usually under $5, don't know how much OP needs.

I once put back together a largish (30" high) vase with white glue, couple
of hundred pieces from large to tiny, still together 30 years later. That
wouldn't be any good for something outside but Titebond II should be OK for
the pedestal, not for the water tray.

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Northe February 21st 10 03:58 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
Thanks to Eric, Joe, aem, etc.

I'm going to try liquid nails to put the pieces together. One of the
salespeople at the local hardware store said that she'd had good results
with fixing several red clay pots using the stuff. I may back up the
inside with epoxy.

Northe



dpb February 21st 10 04:15 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
Northe wrote:
Thanks to Eric, Joe, aem, etc.

I'm going to try liquid nails to put the pieces together. One of the
salespeople at the local hardware store said that she'd had good results
with fixing several red clay pots using the stuff. I may back up the
inside with epoxy.


Bummer of a choice unless you don't give a rats' patootie about
appearance...just use a good epoxy

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DerbyDad03 February 21st 10 04:36 PM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
On Feb 21, 10:58*am, Northe wrote:
Thanks to Eric, Joe, aem, etc.

I'm going to try liquid nails to put the pieces together. One of the
salespeople at the local hardware store said that she'd had good results
with fixing several red clay pots using the stuff. I may back up the
inside with epoxy.

Northe


I'm guessing that's because the sales person has never tried a real 2
part epoxy like West Systems or a similar product.

Head over to your local Marine Supply shop and check out their epoxy
aisle.

blueman March 1st 10 06:05 AM

Need suggestions for repairing ceramic birdbath pedestal
 
dpb writes:
Northe wrote:
Thanks to Eric, Joe, aem, etc.

I'm going to try liquid nails to put the pieces together. One of the
salespeople at the local hardware store said that she'd had good
results with fixing several red clay pots using the stuff. I may
back up the inside with epoxy.


Bummer of a choice unless you don't give a rats' patootie about
appearance...just use a good epoxy


Yup - Liquid nails is an awful choice and will likely leave you with
all types of messy smudges and since it is so thick, it is likely to
give a poor bonding if the join between the ceramic parts is truly
hairline.

A high quality, slow cure two part epoxy (like West System's) without
any filler is the perfect solution. If necessary you can strengthen the
joint by filetting with various epoxy+filler combinations +/- fiberglass
tape but my guess is that if the pieces truly fit that tight together
then just epoxy alone will be more than sufficient.

Liquid nails is for bonding subfloors, panelling, sheathing etc...


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