I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim

Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once gas
is ignited ignitor goes off.

"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the gas is
on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once gas is
ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's burning. No
wonder they burn out.

Jim

Master Betty wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the gas is
on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once gas is
ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's burning. No
wonder they burn out.

Jim


On the ones I've dealt with, the igniter is in series with the valve
coil, so it's failsafe -- if the igniter fails the valve won't open.

cjt wrote:
Master Betty wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the
gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once
gas is ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's
burning. No wonder they burn out.

Jim

On the ones I've dealt with, the igniter is in series with the valve
coil, so it's failsafe -- if the igniter fails the valve won't open.
Hmmm,
That does not make sense. Why ignitor has tp be kept on once gas ignite?
No wonder it does not last. Wonder how many ignitors the oven will need
in it's life span. Furnace has a flame sensor to watch flame.
Very weird design.

Tony Hwang wrote:
cjt wrote:
Master Betty wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the
gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once
gas is ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's
burning. No wonder they burn out.

Jim

On the ones I've dealt with, the igniter is in series with the valve
coil, so it's failsafe -- if the igniter fails the valve won't open.
Hmmm,
That does not make sense. Why ignitor has tp be kept on once gas ignite?
No wonder it does not last. Wonder how many ignitors the oven will need
in it's life span. Furnace has a flame sensor to watch flame.
Very weird design.

A gas furnace with such an igniter has a draft inducer fan that will
blow any unburned gas out the flue. I assume since the oven in a home
kitchen has no such power vent, the designers err on the side of caution
and want no unburned gas to escape into a kitchen.

TDD

Tony Hwang wrote:
cjt wrote:
Master Betty wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the
gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once
gas is ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's
burning. No wonder they burn out.

Jim

On the ones I've dealt with, the igniter is in series with the valve
coil, so it's failsafe -- if the igniter fails the valve won't open.
Hmmm,
That does not make sense. Why ignitor has tp be kept on once gas ignite?
No wonder it does not last. Wonder how many ignitors the oven will need
in it's life span. Furnace has a flame sensor to watch flame.
Very weird design.

I just had the ignitor on my GE gas oven replaced, and the service guy
confirmed this is how they work. My ignitor failed while the gas was
running, and in consequence the gas valve shut down.
He said they have an average lifespan of 6-7 years. Mine lasted 13
years, so I ain't complaining.

"Hell Toupee" wrote in message
...
Tony Hwang wrote:
cjt wrote:
Master Betty wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
...
Master Betty wrote:
I just replaced the igniter and it's lighting. Oven works fine.

I watched it as it went through the cycle and I noticed while the
gas is on
the igniter is on. When the gas goes off the igniter goes off.

Is this correct?

TIA

Jim



Hi,
Comparing to a furnace ignitor's job is only igniting the gas. Once
gas is ignited ignitor goes off.

Everything I've seen on the net suggests it stays on while it's
burning. No wonder they burn out.

Jim

On the ones I've dealt with, the igniter is in series with the valve
coil, so it's failsafe -- if the igniter fails the valve won't open.
Hmmm,
That does not make sense. Why ignitor has tp be kept on once gas ignite?
No wonder it does not last. Wonder how many ignitors the oven will need
in it's life span. Furnace has a flame sensor to watch flame.
Very weird design.

I just had the ignitor on my GE gas oven replaced, and the service guy
confirmed this is how they work. My ignitor failed while the gas was
running, and in consequence the gas valve shut down.
He said they have an average lifespan of 6-7 years. Mine lasted 13 years,
so I ain't complaining.

Thanks. I never really checked to see if that was how they worked. Seemed
strange to me too, but TDD's explanation seems to make sense.

I bought 2 igniters in case the 1st one was a dud.

I got them on eBay for a 4th of what the local supplier wanted. :-)

Jim

I have only replaced one of those, and I honestly don't remember if it
stayed on as described or not. A friend had a rental property that she
was finally unloading, and she thought the stove in it was better than
the one in her house, so I helped them swap stoves. (personally I would
have rather had the one originally in her house). Anyway, after getting
it installed in the house, the oven wouldn't work-- bad ignitor. I guess
in moving it, we jarred it enough to break it. I replaced it and seem to
recall the new one was about $25-30. I do know that the gas valve will
not open until the ignitor is on and glowing, and the instructions with
the new ignitor specified that amperage of the new one must match the
amps of the original for it to work. Personally, I like-- and have-- a
gas cooktop and electric ovens. Larry

I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.

--
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"Master Betty" wrote in message
...


Thanks. I never really checked to see if that was how they
worked. Seemed
strange to me too, but TDD's explanation seems to make
sense.

I bought 2 igniters in case the 1st one was a dud.

I got them on eBay for a 4th of what the local supplier
wanted. :-)

Jim

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.

--
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Learn more about Jesus
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.


$19.95 + $5.00 Shipping. He got it to me in 3 days. I'm impressed.

An appliance repair guy quoted me $160.00 (parts and labor) over the phone

This is the guy that I got it from if anyone is interested:

http://stores.ebay.com/SENECA-RIVER-TRADING

Jim

I got more than that, for parts and labor and all. Glad to
know I'm in the ball park. Thanks for the link, I'll go
look. May buy one for the next repair.

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"Master Betty" wrote in message
...

"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message
...
I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


$19.95 + $5.00 Shipping. He got it to me in 3 days. I'm
impressed.

An appliance repair guy quoted me $160.00 (parts and labor)
over the phone

This is the guy that I got it from if anyone is interested:

http://stores.ebay.com/SENECA-RIVER-TRADING

Jim

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.


OH YOU UNMITIGATED THIEF! HOW COULD YOU CHARGE SO MUCH?!!
Don't you know you're supposed to give your services away?
*snicker*

TDD

Master Betty wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


$19.95 + $5.00 Shipping. He got it to me in 3 days. I'm impressed.

An appliance repair guy quoted me $160.00 (parts and labor) over the phone

This is the guy that I got it from if anyone is interested:

http://stores.ebay.com/SENECA-RIVER-TRADING

And Sears charged me $100 for the part and $130 for the service call.
It's true they charge more.

I must be descended from Standard Oil? Middle name is
Audacity? Of course, with internet, so many people think
everything is free, now days.

Our congress just spent a couple trillion in Tarp, stimulus,
bailout, and flying the Pres to dinner dates. I can't say as
I feel the least bit stimulated.

--
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I replaced a GE ignitor, today. $56.50 for the part. Plus
trip charge and labor, of course.


OH YOU UNMITIGATED THIEF! HOW COULD YOU CHARGE SO MUCH?!!
Don't you know you're supposed to give your services away?
*snicker*

TDD

I worked for Sears, in 1996. I had thier price book for a
while, wish I'd taken it out and copied it. The cheapest
no-heat call was $130 in 1996 dollars. "Educate customer".
I'm sure that 13 years later, I could charge 1996 Sears
prices, and make a handsome living.

Thanks for the field report. I'd sure like it, if people
would post prices, here.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Hell Toupee"
wrote in message ...

http://stores.ebay.com/SENECA-RIVER-TRADING

And Sears charged me $100 for the part and $130 for the
service call.
It's true they charge more.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I must be descended from Standard Oil? Middle name is
Audacity? Of course, with internet, so many people think
everything is free, now days.

Our congress just spent a couple trillion in Tarp, stimulus,
bailout, and flying the Pres to dinner dates. I can't say as
I feel the least bit stimulated.


I worked for an electrical service company in California 20
years ago and the rates they charged then are more than I
charge now. Amazing ain't it.

TDD

Spooky, what people will pay. I wonder, sometimes. Maybe I
should hike my prices way up. Might help me get out of debt?

Talking to a woman at a restaurant yesterday. I asked about
fees and such going up. She says yes, for example hunting
license went way up. Her husband used to hunt, but this year
he's boycotting. See? When the fee is ##, they sell tags.
When it's #### they don't sell tags. What's the benefit?

--
Christopher A. Young
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...

I worked for an electrical service company in California 20
years ago and the rates they charged then are more than I
charge now. Amazing ain't it.

TDD

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Spooky, what people will pay. I wonder, sometimes. Maybe I
should hike my prices way up. Might help me get out of debt?

Talking to a woman at a restaurant yesterday. I asked about
fees and such going up. She says yes, for example hunting
license went way up. Her husband used to hunt, but this year
he's boycotting. See? When the fee is ##, they sell tags.
When it's #### they don't sell tags. What's the benefit?


It's all part of the dumbassification of government.

TDD

It could be dumbass, or it could be the socialist / fascist
take over. With fewer people hunting, they are more depenant
on stores for food. Take overs hate independant people. They
also hate people out of debt. We've all got to be slaving
our lives away.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote
in message ...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Spooky, what people will pay. I wonder, sometimes. Maybe I
should hike my prices way up. Might help me get out of
debt?

Talking to a woman at a restaurant yesterday. I asked
about
fees and such going up. She says yes, for example hunting
license went way up. Her husband used to hunt, but this
year
he's boycotting. See? When the fee is ##, they sell tags.
When it's #### they don't sell tags. What's the benefit?


It's all part of the dumbassification of government.

TDD

In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Spooky, what people will pay. I wonder, sometimes. Maybe I
should hike my prices way up. Might help me get out of debt?

Talking to a woman at a restaurant yesterday. I asked about
fees and such going up. She says yes, for example hunting
license went way up. Her husband used to hunt, but this year
he's boycotting. See? When the fee is ##, they sell tags.
When it's #### they don't sell tags. What's the benefit?

Yeah, when I was a boy, we could buy a loaf of bread for, uh, uh, I
don't know. My mom bought the bread.

Bitching about inflation (which is currently more or less non-existent)
is silly. When you can eat for two months for the price of a bullet, why
would you stop hunting just because the license fee went up? Just so you
can snivel about it, and boast to your friends about how you're "gonna
show those *******s."

The license fee went up by about 50% or so. I don't remember
the numbers, but in NYS the fee is perhaps one and a half or
maybe more. That's hardly "no inflation". Referring to a
person you've not met (nor I, actually) as snivelling and
boasting. That's totally absurd to try to be such a mind
reader. Your credibility went way down.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news
Bitching about inflation (which is currently more or less
non-existent)
is silly. When you can eat for two months for the price of a
bullet, why
would you stop hunting just because the license fee went up?
Just so you
can snivel about it, and boast to your friends about how
you're "gonna
show those *******s."

Stormin Mormon wrote:
The license fee went up by about 50% or so. I don't remember
the numbers, but in NYS the fee is perhaps one and a half or
maybe more. That's hardly "no inflation". Referring to a
person you've not met (nor I, actually) as snivelling and
boasting. That's totally absurd to try to be such a mind
reader. Your credibility went way down.


I'll note in passing that while the government inflation numbers say
inflation is low or zilch, their numbers are based on a rather archaic
'market basket' of goods, that has little to do with what a lot of us
actually buy. Yes, my energy costs are a lot lower than they were a year
ago, but (for me at least), almost all the other things I buy are up
anywhere from a little to a lot. My health insurance increase for
calendar year 2010 will likely more than wipe out the cost of living
increase I am getting. I am fortunate that I have a decent cashflow, and
won't be against the wall like a lot of people are, but it will affect
how likely I am to buy toys, and (to bring it on topic for this group),
it reduces the odds I will do anything other than necessary PM and
repairs to this house. The new deck, redone bathroom, new countertops
and kitchen floor, etc, may end up waiting for the next owner, because
in the current market I would get little or no return at resale from
spending the money. (I'm a guy, and live alone, so my standards are low.
If there was a SWMBO in the house, the criteria would obviously be
different.)

--
aem sends...

In article ,
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

The license fee went up by about 50% or so. I don't remember
the numbers, but in NYS the fee is perhaps one and a half or
maybe more. That's hardly "no inflation". Referring to a
person you've not met (nor I, actually) as snivelling and
boasting. That's totally absurd to try to be such a mind
reader. Your credibility went way down.

What? I had some credibility here? Astounding.