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What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are?
Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Forget the dyson, get the purple kenmore, go out to a *really* nice dinner
for the price difference. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/ProductDi...0090505x00001a no affiliation, just happy with the vac. It really sucks (just had to throw that in there) jc "Sum Guy" wrote in message ... Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuumcleaners?
On Oct 17, 10:49*am, Van Chocstraw
wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? *Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? The cognitive dissonance problem with owner reviews of higher than usual priced stuff (e.g., Macs, Kirby vacuums, etc.) is that having spent the extra money, the buyer must now report how superior the product is lest he be seen as a sucker or even a fool... |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Sum Guy wrote:
Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? There is a little missleading information in their commercials in saying that they do not loose suction. Their claim is based on the use of cyclone centrifugal dust separation. Not the first to use them. They are used in industrial applications and have been used in many vacuums. However, cyclones work best with large dirt, fine dust and even lighter bacterial and viruses rarely get separated because they don't weigh enough to be affected by the centrifugal force. Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, but, to add any filter at the end of the exhaust can result in the filter becoming plugged and reducing the amount of air that leaves the vacuum, thereby loosing suction, which is what they advertise that it does not do. I prefer central vacuums, with the exhaust blowing to the outside so that fine particulate and other unwanted items are discharged to the outdoors, not back into my house. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuumcleaners?
On Oct 17, 11:21*am, Butch Haynes wrote:
RicodJour wrote: On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? *Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. *Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). *Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? The cognitive dissonance problem with owner reviews of higher than usual priced stuff (e.g., Macs, Kirby vacuums, etc.) is that having spent the extra money, the buyer must now report how superior the product is lest he be seen as a sucker or even a fool... And no one would be ****ed off, feel that they had been screwed and leave a bad/horrendous review in retaliation? I find almost just the opposite in almost everything - people more readily leave bad reviews. Of course there are 'unbiased' (everybody/thing has a bias) reviews. Consumerresearch.com reviews the reviews and is a pretty good first stop on such things. R |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:21:24 -0400, Butch Haynes
wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? The cognitive dissonance problem with owner reviews of higher than usual priced stuff (e.g., Macs, Kirby vacuums, etc.) is that having spent the extra money, the buyer must now report how superior the product is lest he be seen as a sucker or even a fool... Consumer reports is totally unbiased?????? I think not. Pretty close - but there will ALWAYS be a bias. And there are enough people in North America who will bitch about ANYTHING, as well as launch "frivalous" lawsuits. No bitching and no lawsuits would TEND to indicate better than average satisfaction. Sure a lot od people bitched about Kirby and FilterQueen. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
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What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
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What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"EXT" wrote in message anews.com... Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? There is a little missleading information in their commercials in saying that they do not loose suction. Their claim is based on the use of cyclone centrifugal dust separation. Not the first to use them. They are used in industrial applications and have been used in many vacuums. However, cyclones work best with large dirt, fine dust and even lighter bacterial and viruses rarely get separated because they don't weigh enough to be affected by the centrifugal force. Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, but, to add any filter at the end of the exhaust can result in the filter becoming plugged and reducing the amount of air that leaves the vacuum, thereby loosing suction, which is what they advertise that it does not do. I prefer central vacuums, with the exhaust blowing to the outside so that fine particulate and other unwanted items are discharged to the outdoors, not back into my house. Consumer Reports October 2009: Dyson Animal DC28 rated 10th out of 40 Uprights (but not Check Rated). Cost $600. There were better performing Check Rated models for as little as $120. -- Peace, BobJ |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
In article , Butch Haynes wrote:
Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? ROTFL |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Scott in SoCal wrote:
Last time on misc.consumers, RicodJour said: On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. I have never owned a Yugo, but I still know that they suck. Still driving the "Le Car"? ;-) |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:34:47 -0400, Sum Guy wrote Re
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? No. Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Yes, since Dyson pays for it. Anybody that pays for time is worthy of that time. Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? Bingo! -- I filter all messages from google groups. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:21:24 -0400, Butch Haynes
wrote Re What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?: The cognitive dissonance problem with owner reviews of higher than usual priced stuff (e.g., Macs, Kirby vacuums, etc.) is that having spent the extra money, the buyer must now report how superior the product is lest he be seen as a sucker or even a fool... Excellent point. -- I filter all messages from google groups. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? One of my relatives has a Dyson and is happy with it (or was a few years ago the last time the subject came up). Said it was good for dog hair. I have a lot of dog hair, but didn't want to part with that much money. I bought a Bissell vacuum a few years ago on sale at Target. It's theoretically designed for homes with pets, although I suspect that might be an advertising gimmick. However it does a great job and pulls out dirt and hair I never knew were there. They have a new one out now that is "multi-cyclonic". I'd like that but only because it sounds more high tech... no idea if it works any better. If I won the lottery, I might try a Dyson, but for now I'm happy with the Bissell. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuumcleaners?
On Oct 17, 9:34*am, Sum Guy wrote:
Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? *Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? Consumer Reports says they are so-so. They sure do look high tech. However, SWMBO bought a Hoover $89.95 on sale a while back and claims it is the best of many to pass through our portals in the the last 36 years. Since the cleanup involves 3 cats, 1 dog and carpets her opinion has merit. Joe |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuumcleaners?
On Oct 17, 2:26*pm, Scott in SoCal wrote:
RicodJour said: Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? *Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. * I have never owned a Yugo, but I still know that they suck. Based on what? Based on other people's opinions? That's what the reviews on Amazon and Epinions and the like are - other people's opinions. If you don't value other people's opinions, does that mean you're smarter than everyone else? Based on you being an auto mechanic and taking them apart and putting them back together again? That has some weight, so let's apply it to what Chocstraw opined: do you think he's an appliance repairman and has had a large number of unhappy customers with Dyson vacuums? Why wouldn't he have said so? Why would Dyson give a FIVE year warranty if the things didn't last (main reason people replace vacuums is because they break). R |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:16:19 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
wrote: On Oct 17, 10:49*am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? *Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R It's not uncommon for people to like what they bought. Once they spent money on it, they sort of have to like it, or else admit they were foolish. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Lee B wrote:
Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? One of my relatives has a Dyson and is happy with it (or was a few years ago the last time the subject came up). Said it was good for dog hair. I have a lot of dog hair, but didn't want to part with that much money. I bought a Bissell vacuum a few years ago on sale at Target. It's theoretically designed for homes with pets, although I suspect that might be an advertising gimmick. However it does a great job and pulls out dirt and hair I never knew were there. They have a new one out now that is "multi-cyclonic". I'd like that but only because it sounds more high tech... no idea if it works any better. If I won the lottery, I might try a Dyson, but for now I'm happy with the Bissell. Th "multi-cyclonic" only describes how it stores the dirt, not how well it gets it from the carpet. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:21:24 -0400, Butch Haynes
wrote: RicodJour wrote: On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? The cognitive dissonance problem with owner reviews of higher than usual priced stuff (e.g., Macs, Kirby vacuums, etc.) is that having spent the extra money, the buyer must now report how superior the product is lest he be seen as a sucker or even a fool... How about this? I OWNED a Kirby and thought it was absolutely excellent, although a bit pricey, and things such as the jig saw attachment were a bit silly. It was great as a vacuum cleaner and rug shampoo-er, though. Thirty years later, I wish I still had it. I bet it is still in like new condition, because my first wife, who got it in the divorce, never did a lick of housework in her life. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 17, 2:26 pm, Scott in SoCal wrote: RicodJour said: Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. I have never owned a Yugo, but I still know that they suck. Based on what? Based on other people's opinions? That's what the reviews on Amazon and Epinions and the like are - other people's opinions. If you don't value other people's opinions, does that mean you're smarter than everyone else? Based on you being an auto mechanic and taking them apart and putting them back together again? That has some weight, so let's apply it to what Chocstraw opined: do you think he's an appliance repairman and has had a large number of unhappy customers with Dyson vacuums? Why wouldn't he have said so? Why would Dyson give a FIVE year warranty if the things didn't last (main reason people replace vacuums is because they break). R Or they thought they were broken. When I lived in the apartments, I used to find at least one orphan a month sitting by the dumpster. Almost always, all they needed was the string cut out of the beater bar, the hairballs removed from the elbow in the plumbing, and maybe a new belt to replace the smoked-slick or broken one. If they were shiny enough, I'd get them running and drop them off at Goodwill, or give to friends to sell in their garage sale. That is one definite downside of moving into a house. Instead of 17 dumpsters that I would walk by every evening on my walk, now I get to listen to idiot dogs barking at me, even after we have been introduced multiple times. -- aem sends... |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0400, "EXT"
wrote: Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, When you wrote Hepa, if you meant HEPA, there is a HEPA standard: they are able to trap at least 99.97 percent of particles of .3 microns. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"LDC" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0400, "EXT" wrote: Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, When you wrote Hepa, if you meant HEPA, there is a HEPA standard: they are able to trap at least 99.97 percent of particles of .3 microns. Is the mis-capitalization really that much of a stretch? |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Sum Guy wrote:
Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? Avoid it at all costs. In a recent vacuum cleaner test it was rated 11th. What you want to do is to buy a commercial vacuum cleaner. If you have a Costco Business Center near you, they carry them. They are not exceptionally expensive, they last a long time, and they suck. Dyson is for the same people that buy the Bose Wave Radio! |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:21:24 -0400, Butch Haynes wrote:
Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? Yes, CU has rated vacuums: Rated #1 with a score of 73 is a Hoover WindTunnel Anniversary Edition U6485-900, price range of $186.99 - $253.54. Best Dyson, DC28 Animal, is rated #12 with a score of 67, price $599.99. |
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Kuskokwim wrote:
Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? Yes, CU has rated vacuums: I bought the Nov CR issue last night, but apparently it's not the issue that contains an indepth review of vacuum cleaners - just a table showing a handful of best performers. This is the Canadian version, and the special Canadian insert that shows the equivalent cdn models isin't even showing the correct model numbers. I was going to buy a one-month access to CR's online website, but when I got to the point where I was filling out my CC information, it said that it was a _recurring_ one-month charge unless or until I cancelled it, which I immediately swore at them. They just lost some direct revenue because I wanted a one-time charge to my card, not to have to deal with cancelling it so I wouldn't be charged for a second (etc) month. It would be nice if there was a code inside the CR magazine such that if you bought CR at the news stand that you could use the code to access the CR website for a limited time (one month?). I purchased a Sears Kenmore "Elegance" model 23107 (black color) which is same as 23106 and 23105 (purple and yellow). The Elegance black model ($399 CDN, on sale) is the same as the US Ebony 28614 model ($288 USD). We get screwed up here in Canada over the exchange rate, seeing how the CDN dollar is almost at par with the USD. All of the sears vacuum cleaners (including the really expensive "Blue" (US) or Intuition (Canada) have the same canister unit and beater-bar roller brush. The Blue/Intuition has a beater bar unit with a detachable hard-floor cleaning head, but all units have a small powered accessory head for cleaning stairs and furniture. There's a lot of talk about suction and hepa, but it's all noise. How the beater-bar interacts with carpeting is where your real cleaning action is. All vacuums have enough suction to bring dirt/hair into the capture bag or container once it's been dislodged by the beater bar. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:34:47 -0400, Sum Guy wrote:
Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Which? They make quite a few different models, and you don't say where you are... We had a DC05 at one point - the filters would block up quickly, part of the hose assembly broke after a while (and they only wanted to sell me a whole new hose assembly at great expense rather than just the fitting that had broken), and the whole rotating brush part which was supposed to run via the airflow was just a joke and next to useless (I'd end up stripping the whole brush assembly apart at least a couple of times a month, which gets old fast). Never tried one of those Dysons with the ball, if that's what you're talking about. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:26:20 -0700, Scott in SoCal wrote:
Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. I have never owned a Yugo, but I still know that they suck. Interesting - back in the day I used to hear nothing but praise about their off-roaders; sounded like they were just as capable as the more expensive equivalents from other manufacturers. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:13:57 -0400, Tony wrote:
Still driving the "Le Car"? ;-) Hmm, I remember a friend having one of the Alpine turbo versions (not sure if they were ever sold in the US?) and it was a really fun car, particularly on twisty hillside roads :-) Power output even without the turbo was twice that of the standard vehicle, though, so it was a reasonable power/weight ratio in something with a reasonably sort wheelbase... cheers Jules |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
on 10/17/2009 11:58 AM (ET) EXT wrote the following:
Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? There is a little missleading information in their commercials in saying that they do not loose suction. Their claim is based on the use of cyclone centrifugal dust separation. Not the first to use them. They are used in industrial applications and have been used in many vacuums. However, cyclones work best with large dirt, fine dust and even lighter bacterial and viruses rarely get separated because they don't weigh enough to be affected by the centrifugal force. Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, but, to add any filter at the end of the exhaust can result in the filter becoming plugged and reducing the amount of air that leaves the vacuum, thereby loosing suction, which is what they advertise that it does not do. I prefer central vacuums, with the exhaust blowing to the outside so that fine particulate and other unwanted items are discharged to the outdoors, not back into my house. I have a central vacuum, but sometimes you just need to pick up some local debris and don't want to drag 30' of hose out and snake it to wherever you need it.. My other vac is a Bissell combo upright/canister vac that I bought in WalMart when I wasn't shopping for a vac. I spotted that candy apple red machine on the shelf and had to have it. I think it was about $150 USD http://www.acohardware.biz/713.html -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
on 10/17/2009 7:54 PM (ET) Joe wrote the following:
"LDC" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0400, "EXT" wrote: Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, When you wrote Hepa, if you meant HEPA, there is a HEPA standard: they are able to trap at least 99.97 percent of particles of .3 microns. Is the mis-capitalization really that much of a stretch? As long as it isn't Hep-A that you are talking about. :-) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"willshak" wrote in message ... on 10/17/2009 7:54 PM (ET) Joe wrote the following: "LDC" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0400, "EXT" wrote: Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, When you wrote Hepa, if you meant HEPA, there is a HEPA standard: they are able to trap at least 99.97 percent of particles of .3 microns. Is the mis-capitalization really that much of a stretch? As long as it isn't Hep-A that you are talking about. :-) Clever. Nice one! ;-) Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:40:06 -0500, Jules
wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:13:57 -0400, Tony wrote: Still driving the "Le Car"? ;-) Hmm, I remember a friend having one of the Alpine turbo versions (not sure if they were ever sold in the US?) and it was a really fun car, particularly on twisty hillside roads :-) Power output even without the turbo was twice that of the standard vehicle, though, so it was a reasonable power/weight ratio in something with a reasonably sort wheelbase... And an even shorter service life! |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
Sum Guy wrote
Kuskokwim wrote Are there any reviews by an objective, unbiased source (e.g., Consumer Reports)? Yes, CU has rated vacuums: I bought the Nov CR issue last night, but apparently it's not the issue that contains an indepth review of vacuum cleaners - just a table showing a handful of best performers. This is the Canadian version, and the special Canadian insert that shows the equivalent cdn models isin't even showing the correct model numbers. I was going to buy a one-month access to CR's online website, but when I got to the point where I was filling out my CC information, it said that it was a _recurring_ one-month charge unless or until I cancelled it, which I immediately swore at them. They just lost some direct revenue because I wanted a one-time charge to my card, not to have to deal with cancelling it so I wouldn't be charged for a second (etc) month. It would be nice if there was a code inside the CR magazine such that if you bought CR at the news stand that you could use the code to access the CR website for a limited time (one month?). And just how long do you expect it would take before that ended up on the net ? I purchased a Sears Kenmore "Elegance" model 23107 (black color) which is same as 23106 and 23105 (purple and yellow). The Elegance black model ($399 CDN, on sale) is the same as the US Ebony 28614 model ($288 USD). We get screwed up here in Canada over the exchange rate, seeing how the CDN dollar is almost at par with the USD. All of the sears vacuum cleaners (including the really expensive "Blue" (US) or Intuition (Canada) have the same canister unit and beater-bar roller brush. The Blue/Intuition has a beater bar unit with a detachable hard-floor cleaning head, but all units have a small powered accessory head for cleaning stairs and furniture. There's a lot of talk about suction and hepa, but it's all noise. How the beater-bar interacts with carpeting is where your real cleaning action is. Not if you dont have carpet. All vacuums have enough suction to bring dirt/hair into the capture bag or container once it's been dislodged by the beater bar. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:52:34 -0700, SMS
wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? Avoid it at all costs. In a recent vacuum cleaner test it was rated 11th. What you want to do is to buy a commercial vacuum cleaner. If you have a Costco Business Center near you, they carry them. They are not exceptionally expensive, they last a long time, and they suck. Dyson is for the same people that buy the Bose Wave Radio! We have a five-year-old Dyson. Before that SWMBO would go through a Hoover, Eureka, or whatever, every six to nine months. They would either lose suction (sucks to lose impeller blades) or would blow out the side of the case. Yes, they aren't designed to suck up pennies, but the fact is they do. The Dyson may not work any better but it *is* built better than the $100 vacuums out there. |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"Sum Guy" wrote in message ... Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? If you have a really good product, people know about it, and you don't have to spend a lot on advertising. If you don't, you advertise the hell out of it. They have to sell a lot of vacuums to just break even on the advertising. Like Geico. Tons of TV ads. Nascar cars. Drag racers @ $40,000 a run. If they want to drop the cost of their insurance, simply cut the ad costs. Allstate is beating them up pretty good now by just advertising prices, and not going with all the hoopla. I'm just sick of seeing the cavemen. Steve |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"RicodJour" wrote in message ... On Oct 17, 10:49 am, Van Chocstraw wrote: Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? They are just trying to justify a high price. Some people will buy something just because it costs more. Curious that you have such a strong opinion on something you don't own. Virtually all of the reviews from people that actually bought it are 4 and 5 stars (Dyson Animal). Google has a review consolidator - click on the "all reviews" link. R reply: I don't own any Oakley glasses. I think anyone who would pay $200 to $300 for a pair of sunglasses needs to be confined and observed for a week. The same goes for vacuum cleaners. I've had $5 garage sale vacuums that did as good as a new one, and if they died, hell, just go get another one. Rhinestone shades (@$200 a pair) or cheap sunglasses, as some prophet once said. Steve |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
And no one would be ****ed off, feel that they had been screwed and leave a bad/horrendous review in retaliation? I find almost just the opposite in almost everything - people more readily leave bad reviews. reply: I quit reading online reviews. They all looked like they were written by the same English major, and I could find very few negatives. I'd rather ask the neighbors or friends, or come here. Steve |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"LDC" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:58:29 -0400, "EXT" wrote: Dysons sometimes mention they use a Hepa final filter to clean the air. Hepa is not a standard and can mean many things, When you wrote Hepa, if you meant HEPA, there is a HEPA standard: they are able to trap at least 99.97 percent of particles of .3 microns. OMIGAWD! I totally understood that he meant HEPA when he typed Hepa. What is wrong with me, and what should I be doing about it? Steve |
What's the deal with the heavily-advertized Dyson vacuum cleaners?
"Lee B" wrote in message ... Sum Guy wrote: Are the Dyson vacuum cleaners as good as they say they are? Are they worthy of the tv-commercial air time? Or is this a case of "if you advertize it, they will buy" ? One of my relatives has a Dyson and is happy with it (or was a few years ago the last time the subject came up). Said it was good for dog hair. I have a lot of dog hair, but didn't want to part with that much money. I bought a Bissell vacuum a few years ago on sale at Target. It's theoretically designed for homes with pets, although I suspect that might be an advertising gimmick. However it does a great job and pulls out dirt and hair I never knew were there. They have a new one out now that is "multi-cyclonic". I'd like that but only because it sounds more high tech... no idea if it works any better. If I won the lottery, I might try a Dyson, but for now I'm happy with the Bissell. If I hit the lotto, I don't think I'd have a new vacuum on the list of priorities. I think all that overbuying is why a lot of lottery winners end up poor again. Have to have the latest greatest most expensive of everything, when a cheap one will do just as well. Steve |
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