I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the radiator
shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a reference on
how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
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I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the
radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a
reference on how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie



When it comes to drywall in older homes there isn't a cut and dry
reference...You have to kinda wing it and get creative sometimes as well as
be knowledgable about all the drywall trim , beads and other specialty
items......Is there any way you could post a link to a couple of pictures
??? Hard to tell without seeing it... If you can get some pics I will look
it over for you and give you a few ideas...Isn't much I haven't seen in 20
odd years of drywall.....

I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the
radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to the
exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm

Bernie Hunt wrote:
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the radiator
shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a reference on
how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie

Before doing anything I'd do some probing to see if there is any
insulation between the outside wall and the radiator.

"Rudy" wrote in message
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I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the
radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to the
exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it gets..It
may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let the sheetrock
float out over the box so it can expand and contract without damaging the
drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if it gets hot as
well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat gets it very brittle
over time....Depending on the look he wants he could use tapable J
bead...That's J bead that you mud like cornerbead.....Hard to tell anything
for sure without seeing it and getting more info.....

Bernie Hunt wrote:
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the radiator
shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a reference on
how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie


Best way is to strip the wall back to the studs, and drywall around it
like you would any built-in item, using the special edging to get a
crisp edge. Hard to say without seeing it- can you post a link to a
close-up picture?

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aem sends...

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:49:22 -0400, "Bernie Hunt"
wrote:

I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the radiator
shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a reference on
how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie



I'd know immediately how/what to do if I saw your situation. I use
Sheetrock 90 to fill in gaps butting up against appliances. It makes
a cleaner/neater job if you use painter's tape against the appliance
and drywall mesh tape on the drywall edge. It is best to have the
patience and apply 5-6 coats of compound, one coat each day, and sand
smooth and wipe off before applying the next coat. Use a work light
to inspect your work before applying the last skim coat of slighlty
thinned-down drywall compound.

"Phisherman" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:49:22 -0400, "Bernie Hunt"
wrote:

I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the
radiator
shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a reference
on
how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie



I'd know immediately how/what to do if I saw your situation. I use
Sheetrock 90 to fill in gaps butting up against appliances. It makes
a cleaner/neater job if you use painter's tape against the appliance
and drywall mesh tape on the drywall edge. It is best to have the
patience and apply 5-6 coats of compound, one coat each day, and sand
smooth and wipe off before applying the next coat. Use a work light
to inspect your work before applying the last skim coat of slighlty
thinned-down drywall compound.

That is true in most instances..But doing it to a hot radiator wouldn't be a
good idea...It WILL crack and fall apart....We REALLY need a pic.....

The J bead is probably the answer. I'll try to post some pictures tomarrow.

Regarding heat, the hot water leaves the boiler around 140 to 180 I think.
By the time it get's upstairs it's probably down to 120 to 140. Transfer
through the radiator fins the air is probably about 90 to 100. So the box
only get's about 90 to 100 degrees. I've never measured it but I can tell
you it's enough to overheat the cat in about 15 minutes. Then he has to lay
of the floor to cool off, but then it's back to the warmth.

Thanks for you help guys, I'll work on getting some pictures posted.

Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
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"Rudy" wrote in message
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I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the
walls. Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3"
and has a loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered
onto the radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to
the exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it
gets..It may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let the
sheetrock float out over the box so it can expand and contract without
damaging the drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if it gets hot
as well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat gets it very
brittle over time....Depending on the look he wants he could use tapable J
bead...That's J bead that you mud like cornerbead.....Hard to tell
anything for sure without seeing it and getting more info.....

Very little. I changed the windows above the radiators so I had the sideing
off the house around the windows. There was only about a 1" gap between the
back of the radiator and the sheathing. I split a batton in half thickness
wise and sandwiched it between the two. Probably not optimal, but it's the
best I could do. This is one of the reasons they don't use these anymore.

Bernie

"Tony" wrote in message
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Bernie Hunt wrote:
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the walls.
Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3" and has a
loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered onto the
radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall? Can anyone point me to a
reference on how to do this?

Thanks,
Bernie

Before doing anything I'd do some probing to see if there is any
insulation between the outside wall and the radiator.

OK, here's a couple of pictures of the one's upstairs which are complete.
The far away shot shows what the radiators look like and the closer ones
shows what the joint looks like. Any ideas on how I make this happen?

http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0101.jpg
http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0102.jpg


Thanks
Bernie

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
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The J bead is probably the answer. I'll try to post some pictures
tomarrow.

Regarding heat, the hot water leaves the boiler around 140 to 180 I think.
By the time it get's upstairs it's probably down to 120 to 140. Transfer
through the radiator fins the air is probably about 90 to 100. So the box
only get's about 90 to 100 degrees. I've never measured it but I can tell
you it's enough to overheat the cat in about 15 minutes. Then he has to
lay of the floor to cool off, but then it's back to the warmth.

Thanks for you help guys, I'll work on getting some pictures posted.

Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
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"Rudy" wrote in message
...
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the
walls. Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3"
and has a loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered
onto the radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to
the exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it
gets..It may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let the
sheetrock float out over the box so it can expand and contract without
damaging the drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if it gets hot
as well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat gets it very
brittle over time....Depending on the look he wants he could use tapable
J bead...That's J bead that you mud like cornerbead.....Hard to tell
anything for sure without seeing it and getting more info.....

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
OK, here's a couple of pictures of the one's upstairs which are complete.
The far away shot shows what the radiators look like and the closer ones
shows what the joint looks like. Any ideas on how I make this happen?

http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0101.jpg
http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0102.jpg


Thanks
Bernie



Yep....Just as I thought...Just sheetrock up to it.....Just be carefull not
to put a screw to close to the metal flange or you will fracture the
rock.Just float it ..Staple or use Drywall Adhesive to put Vinyl L bead with
the tear away strip around the radiator..Mud , remove tear away strip , sand
, prime then I would caulk around it before finish paint... Good luck...



"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
The J bead is probably the answer. I'll try to post some pictures
tomarrow.

Regarding heat, the hot water leaves the boiler around 140 to 180 I
think. By the time it get's upstairs it's probably down to 120 to 140.
Transfer through the radiator fins the air is probably about 90 to 100.
So the box only get's about 90 to 100 degrees. I've never measured it but
I can tell you it's enough to overheat the cat in about 15 minutes. Then
he has to lay of the floor to cool off, but then it's back to the warmth.

Thanks for you help guys, I'll work on getting some pictures posted.

Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
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"Rudy" wrote in message
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I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the
walls. Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3"
and has a loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered
onto the radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to
the exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it
gets..It may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let the
sheetrock float out over the box so it can expand and contract without
damaging the drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if it gets
hot as well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat gets it very
brittle over time....Depending on the look he wants he could use tapable
J bead...That's J bead that you mud like cornerbead.....Hard to tell
anything for sure without seeing it and getting more info.....

Where do I find the vinyl bead. A building supply house? I assume home depot
wouldn't carry that would they?

Thanks,
Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
news

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
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OK, here's a couple of pictures of the one's upstairs which are complete.
The far away shot shows what the radiators look like and the closer ones
shows what the joint looks like. Any ideas on how I make this happen?

http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0101.jpg
http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0102.jpg


Thanks
Bernie



Yep....Just as I thought...Just sheetrock up to it.....Just be carefull
not to put a screw to close to the metal flange or you will fracture the
rock.Just float it ..Staple or use Drywall Adhesive to put Vinyl L bead
with the tear away strip around the radiator..Mud , remove tear away strip
, sand , prime then I would caulk around it before finish paint... Good
luck...



"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
The J bead is probably the answer. I'll try to post some pictures
tomarrow.

Regarding heat, the hot water leaves the boiler around 140 to 180 I
think. By the time it get's upstairs it's probably down to 120 to 140.
Transfer through the radiator fins the air is probably about 90 to 100.
So the box only get's about 90 to 100 degrees. I've never measured it
but I can tell you it's enough to overheat the cat in about 15 minutes.
Then he has to lay of the floor to cool off, but then it's back to the
warmth.

Thanks for you help guys, I'll work on getting some pictures posted.

Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
...

"Rudy" wrote in message
...
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the
walls. Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about 3"
and has a loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was feathered
onto the radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply to
the exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it
gets..It may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let
the sheetrock float out over the box so it can expand and contract
without damaging the drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if
it gets hot as well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat
gets it very brittle over time....Depending on the look he wants he
could use tapable J bead...That's J bead that you mud like
cornerbead.....Hard to tell anything for sure without seeing it and
getting more info.....

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
Where do I find the vinyl bead. A building supply house? I assume home
depot wouldn't carry that would they?

Home Depot carries it...Atleast here...It is pretty common....Good Luck....

Thanks,
Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
news

"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
OK, here's a couple of pictures of the one's upstairs which are
complete. The far away shot shows what the radiators look like and the
closer ones shows what the joint looks like. Any ideas on how I make
this happen?

http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0101.jpg
http://www.cybertecservices.com/files/imag0102.jpg


Thanks
Bernie



Yep....Just as I thought...Just sheetrock up to it.....Just be carefull
not to put a screw to close to the metal flange or you will fracture the
rock.Just float it ..Staple or use Drywall Adhesive to put Vinyl L bead
with the tear away strip around the radiator..Mud , remove tear away
strip , sand , prime then I would caulk around it before finish paint...
Good luck...



"Bernie Hunt" wrote in message
...
The J bead is probably the answer. I'll try to post some pictures
tomarrow.

Regarding heat, the hot water leaves the boiler around 140 to 180 I
think. By the time it get's upstairs it's probably down to 120 to 140.
Transfer through the radiator fins the air is probably about 90 to 100.
So the box only get's about 90 to 100 degrees. I've never measured it
but I can tell you it's enough to overheat the cat in about 15 minutes.
Then he has to lay of the floor to cool off, but then it's back to the
warmth.

Thanks for you help guys, I'll work on getting some pictures posted.

Bernie

"benick" wrote in message
...

"Rudy" wrote in message
...
I'm remodeling my den and it has radiators that are mounted in the
walls. Basically a metal box that extends out of the wall by about
3" and has a loveared cover on the front. The old plaster was
feathered onto the radiator shell. How do I do this with drywall?

You can stick the drywall to the "box" with construction adhesive.
You can get some finishing (J-bead) strips (white plastic) to apply
to the exposed drywall "edge" from a REAL drywall supply place

http://www.amico-lath.com/drywall/j_bead.htm


I don't know if I would glue it to the box depending on how hot it
gets..It may be better to just screw it up to the metal and then let
the sheetrock float out over the box so it can expand and contract
without damaging the drywall.....May also want to use metal J bead if
it gets hot as well.....Plastic wouldn't melt or burn but high heat
gets it very brittle over time....Depending on the look he wants he
could use tapable J bead...That's J bead that you mud like
cornerbead.....Hard to tell anything for sure without seeing it and
getting more info.....