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How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ?
I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 |
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"desgnr" wrote in message ... How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. For that kind of driving I suggest an impact driver. I have a Bosch and love it. I tend to stay with name brand tools because I need reliability and I want to be able to get parts and service when needed. |
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My 12 volt cordless Drill Master from HF should do 3 inch
screws. The charging system is not regulated, I have to allow it no more than 3 hours on the charger. That said, it's several years old, and keeps on running. My sense, with the cordless from HF, they are all reasonable, but not great. The last ones I got from HD were some years ago, can't remember the voltage. But at $20 per drill, it was cheaper than the $28 battery replacement pack for my Skil drills. HD has Ryobi, Dewalt, and some pretty nice cordless. So, if you're looking for one to use on the job, I'd go there. My work horse cordless drill for the job is Makita 14.4 volt. I've worn out a battery or two. Found a battery at a clearance sale, and bought it. Someday I'll send the worn out batteries to Primecell. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "desgnr" wrote in message ... How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. |
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On Sep 25, 7:56*am, "desgnr" wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Harbor Freight has this drill motor:- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93440 It's in their current sales catalog for $14.99 till Oct. 12th. Hope this helps you. Lewis. ***** |
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That's the detail I'd forgotten -- that HF has half price
sales, frequently. Mine was also about $15 at HF. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "ru4linux2" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 7:56 am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Harbor Freight has this drill motor:- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93440 It's in their current sales catalog for $14.99 till Oct. 12th. Hope this helps you. Lewis. ***** |
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Are they any good ?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... That's the detail I'd forgotten -- that HF has half price sales, frequently. Mine was also about $15 at HF. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "ru4linux2" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 7:56 am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Harbor Freight has this drill motor:- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93440 It's in their current sales catalog for $14.99 till Oct. 12th. Hope this helps you. Lewis. ***** |
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My red 12 volt drill master has been in use for several
years. I didn't date the drill (sharpie pen) but at least three or four years. I'm pleased to pieces. I use it for insert and remove screws at work. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "desgnr" wrote in message ... Are they any good ? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... That's the detail I'd forgotten -- that HF has half price sales, frequently. Mine was also about $15 at HF. |
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"desgnr" wrote in message ... Are they any good ? They are not great, but they do work. the problem is with the batteries and the charging system. Like Christopher mentioned, no regulation on the charging system so leaving the battery on the charger too long kills the batteries, which are cheap ones to begin with. If you are only looking for a tool for one shot the HF drill might be OK, if you are a DIY guy and this is only one project in a long line of things to do, then I would recommend going to the big orange box, buying a good Lithium ion drill with a lifetime guarantee and long after the sting of the price wears off you will still have a good tool and the piece of mind that it will work when needed. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. |
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on 9/25/2009 9:38 AM (ET) ru4linux2 wrote the following:
On Sep 25, 7:56 am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Harbor Freight has this drill motor:- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93440 It's in their current sales catalog for $14.99 till Oct. 12th. Hope this helps you. Lewis. ***** Give us the catalog # and the drill # so we can shop online using the catalog price. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"desgnr" wrote in message ... How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. It depends on use and budget. You can get some drills at HF, but by and large, they will not have near the lifespan of the brand names you get at the Borgs. If you want to buy one and be done with it, spring for the good ones. If you are going to be driving three inch screws, you want an 18v. A lesser drill will do it, but on the days when you have lots of screws to do, you will notice the difference. Lots of HF tools are a value for tools you don't use a lot or tools that don't have to stand up. Cordless drills aren't one of them. Check at pawn shops. Things are very reasonably priced there now. Steve |
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Check at pawn shops. Things are very reasonably priced there now. You definitely have better luck at pawn shows than do I. I have NEVER seen a bargain there. |
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On Sep 25, 10:38*am, "SteveB" wrote:
[snip] Check at pawn shops. *Things are very reasonably priced there now. I second and third this recommendation. I was in two local pawn shops recently, looking at what they had in notebook computers, and was surprised at the number of Porter Cable tools I saw available at prices you can't imagine. Even if they are used, it makes getting some P-C tools on my workbench actually feasible! |
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desgnr wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Just a suggestion: If you're doing something like a fence or a deck, where lots of screws will be involved, consider a 3/8" corded drill. The extra power and absence of a need for a re-charge may very well outweigh the inconvenience of an extension cord. I put up a fence using a Makita. After about 30 pickets, I could tell the battery was complaining. I dug out an ancient Craftsman corded drill and a 100' foot extension cord and put up the remaining 150 or so pickets without a hiccup. |
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Since the OP mentioned 3 inch screws, lets remind him that
two drills and drilling pilot hole is a good idea. The long screws bind a bit after a bit of insertion. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message m... Just a suggestion: If you're doing something like a fence or a deck, where lots of screws will be involved, consider a 3/8" corded drill. The extra power and absence of a need for a re-charge may very well outweigh the inconvenience of an extension cord. I put up a fence using a Makita. After about 30 pickets, I could tell the battery was complaining. I dug out an ancient Craftsman corded drill and a 100' foot extension cord and put up the remaining 150 or so pickets without a hiccup. |
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"desgnr" wrote in message ... How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Never had a Harbor Freight tool, but the Ryobi or Ridgid brands from HD are acceptable for light home use. When you buy the screw, get square head ones for the best results. If you want screws that are not going to snap easily, buy from www.mcfeelys.com |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Never had a Harbor Freight tool, but the Ryobi or Ridgid brands from HD are acceptable for light home use. And Ryobi, Ridgid and Milwaukee (as well as Husky hand tools) are products of the same company -- whose name escapes me at present. Ridgid has a better warranty (don't know about Milwaukee), but of course the batteries are *not* interchangeable. Perce |
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desgnr wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. just go to HD and get you a dewalt. Don't worry about that ferrin **** from Harbor freight. Get something that will last a lifetime. s |
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On Sep 25, 1:02*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
snip just go to HD and get you a dewalt. *Don't worry about that ferrin **** from Harbor freight. *Get something that will last a lifetime. All my DeWalt tools are made in Japan. Did you know that DeWalt is really Japanese Black & Decker? Joe |
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Joe wrote:
On Sep 25, 1:02 pm, Steve Barker wrote: snip just go to HD and get you a dewalt. Don't worry about that ferrin **** from Harbor freight. Get something that will last a lifetime. All my DeWalt tools are made in Japan. Did you know that DeWalt is really Japanese Black & Decker? Joe _MY_ dewalts were made in Baltimore , MD and i really don't GAFF if it works. And dewalt works. And no i don't believe your crap about it being related to B&D. |
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Steve Barker wrote:
_MY_ dewalts were made in Baltimore , MD and i really don't GAFF if it works. And dewalt works. And no i don't believe your crap about it being related to B&D. Black and Decker bought Dewalt in 1992. Coincidentally, I threw a B&D drill in the trash today. It had an infuriating short in the trigger switch. I took it apart to try to fix it. It turned out the likely cause was cold (defective) solders of the wires going into the switch. They fell out their holes (it was much like a back stab 120v receptacle) as I took the case off, and I wasn't able to be sure which wires went to which connections. I replaced that piece of crap with a Skil. Even though the Skil was made in China, it has a heft that reminds me of my Milwaukee Sawzall. -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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In article ,
Tony Sivori wrote: Steve Barker wrote: _MY_ dewalts were made in Baltimore , MD and i really don't GAFF if it works. And dewalt works. And no i don't believe your crap about it being related to B&D. Black and Decker bought Dewalt in 1992. Coincidentally, I threw a B&D drill in the trash today. It had an infuriating short in the trigger switch. I took it apart to try to fix it. It turned out the likely cause was cold (defective) solders of the wires going into the switch. They fell out their holes (it was much like a back stab 120v receptacle) as I took the case off, and I wasn't able to be sure which wires went to which connections. I replaced that piece of crap with a Skil. Even though the Skil was made in China, it has a heft that reminds me of my Milwaukee Sawzall. Sounds like an infuriating intermittent open, rather than short. Soldering is a useful skill to learn. |
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On Sep 25, 2:23*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
_MY_ dewalts were made in Baltimore , MD and i really don't GAFF if it works. *And dewalt works. *And no i don't believe your crap about it being related to B&D. Sheesh, you have an Internet connection and yet you can't be bothered doing 30 seconds' worth of research? First, Black & Decker's world headquarters is on Joppa Road near Goucher Blvd. in Towson, MD, about 1-1/2 miles outside BALTIMORE. I know from personal experience because I used to live in near there and drove past the place just yesterday on my way from my old house (where my brother-in-law now lives) to Trader Joe's over there near Towsontowne Centre. You want more proof? Go to http://www.bdk.com (Black & Decker's corporate website and click on the link "Our Companies" and you'll see the list: Black & Decker, DeWalt, Porter Cable, Delta Machinery, Kwikset, Price Pfister... The more you know... |
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On Sep 25, 7:56*am, "desgnr" wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. I'm on my third year with a Makita and typically drive up to 4" construction screws. Hardly anyone uses Philips screws anymore. Robertson square drive are OK, but for day in day out drive 'em flush and fast, absolutely nothing beats Torx or 'star' drive. Buy a few and try them out (Menards features them) and you'll never go back. Any Li-ion type from 12 to 18 volts should work for you in a DIY setting. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... On Sep 25, 7:56 am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. I'm on my third year with a Makita and typically drive up to 4" construction screws. Hardly anyone uses Philips screws anymore. Robertson square drive are OK, but for day in day out drive 'em flush and fast, absolutely nothing beats Torx or 'star' drive. Buy a few and try them out (Menards features them) and you'll never go back. Any Li-ion type from 12 to 18 volts should work for you in a DIY setting. Joe Say what? Get one of the sleeve extensions, a good bit, and put your shoulder into it. Steve |
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How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ?
I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. I'm on my third year with a Makita and typically drive up to 4" construction screws. Hardly anyone uses Philips screws anymore. Robertson square drive are OK, but for day in day out drive 'em flush and fast, absolutely nothing beats Torx or 'star' drive. Buy a few and try them out (Menards features them) and you'll never go back. Any Li-ion type from 12 to 18 volts should work for you in a DIY setting. Joe Say what? Get one of the sleeve extensions, a good bit, and put your shoulder into it. Steve *That's the difference with an impact driver Steve. You don't have to "Put your shoulder into it". The driver does all of the work and is much lighter than an 18 volt drill. I was using my drill for screwing until one of my customers let me use his impact driver. I went out and bought my own the following week and have no regrets. |
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"John Grabowski" wrote in message ... How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. I'm on my third year with a Makita and typically drive up to 4" construction screws. Hardly anyone uses Philips screws anymore. Robertson square drive are OK, but for day in day out drive 'em flush and fast, absolutely nothing beats Torx or 'star' drive. Buy a few and try them out (Menards features them) and you'll never go back. Any Li-ion type from 12 to 18 volts should work for you in a DIY setting. Joe Say what? Get one of the sleeve extensions, a good bit, and put your shoulder into it. Steve *That's the difference with an impact driver Steve. You don't have to "Put your shoulder into it". The driver does all of the work and is much lighter than an 18 volt drill. I was using my drill for screwing until one of my customers let me use his impact driver. I went out and bought my own the following week and have no regrets. I must admit that just because you have one, and I don't, and I've never used one, it makes it VERY suspect to me. ;-) I have seen small Makitas used at the conventions a lot, and they all seemed to like them. IIRC, they had a little slide fitting to quick connect various tools. No one who used them would lend them, and they swore by them. I came close to buying one several times, and may still if I see one at a decent price in this down economy. I've been scoring some nice tools lately, including a BIG honking Rockwell table saw for $50. A Porter Cable pancake compressor and three guns (one 2.5" nail, one up to 1" brad and one up to 1 1/4" staple) all NEW for $135. A DeWalt hand grinder with 5/8" arbor and paddle switch for $20. A 12 and 20 ton jack today for $7 for both. I could go on. I admit that I would like to try one of the impact drivers. But I think that you have to admit that a good hefty tool, be it DeWalt, Makita, or even Ryobi with the right bit and setup will do most anything the average DIYer calls on it to do. There are LOTS and LOTS of people out there who don't even understand how to pick out bits, sizes, types, etc. There are a lot of people who don't select or even ask about the proper fastener for the job, but just buy whatever drywall screw is on sale. So, a lot of this discussion is over their heads. What model number is yours, and what voltage? A lot of the Makitas I saw were 12 or 14.4, but that has been about three years ago now. Steve, who is changing his mind, just like Fearless Leader does twenty times a day. |
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:39:37 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote: I admit that I would like to try one of the impact drivers. One day I was watching a custom cabinet installer and a two guys installing large garage doors. All using impact drivers. 'Course I had to ask them about them, how they worked and if I could hold it I want one! I bought a 18V Bosch Brute hammer drill years ago as part of the kit. That drill had a better torque than others at the time. It's heavy...never walk by my ladder when I drop it... |
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How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. I'm on my third year with a Makita and typically drive up to 4" construction screws. Hardly anyone uses Philips screws anymore. Robertson square drive are OK, but for day in day out drive 'em flush and fast, absolutely nothing beats Torx or 'star' drive. Buy a few and try them out (Menards features them) and you'll never go back. Any Li-ion type from 12 to 18 volts should work for you in a DIY setting. Joe Say what? Get one of the sleeve extensions, a good bit, and put your shoulder into it. Steve *That's the difference with an impact driver Steve. You don't have to "Put your shoulder into it". The driver does all of the work and is much lighter than an 18 volt drill. I was using my drill for screwing until one of my customers let me use his impact driver. I went out and bought my own the following week and have no regrets. I must admit that just because you have one, and I don't, and I've never used one, it makes it VERY suspect to me. ;-) I have seen small Makitas used at the conventions a lot, and they all seemed to like them. IIRC, they had a little slide fitting to quick connect various tools. No one who used them would lend them, and they swore by them. I came close to buying one several times, and may still if I see one at a decent price in this down economy. I've been scoring some nice tools lately, including a BIG honking Rockwell table saw for $50. A Porter Cable pancake compressor and three guns (one 2.5" nail, one up to 1" brad and one up to 1 1/4" staple) all NEW for $135. A DeWalt hand grinder with 5/8" arbor and paddle switch for $20. A 12 and 20 ton jack today for $7 for both. I could go on. I admit that I would like to try one of the impact drivers. But I think that you have to admit that a good hefty tool, be it DeWalt, Makita, or even Ryobi with the right bit and setup will do most anything the average DIYer calls on it to do. There are LOTS and LOTS of people out there who don't even understand how to pick out bits, sizes, types, etc. There are a lot of people who don't select or even ask about the proper fastener for the job, but just buy whatever drywall screw is on sale. So, a lot of this discussion is over their heads. What model number is yours, and what voltage? A lot of the Makitas I saw were 12 or 14.4, but that has been about three years ago now. *I have a Bosch 10.8 volt. It is small and lightweight, but is quite powerful. Unfortunately before this tool came out I had purchased the Bosch cordless screwdriver (I Driver I think) and was quite pleased with the power that it had. Since I purchased the impact driver I have put the cordless screwdriver in the closet. I use the impact driver instead. It just makes screwing effortless. |
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Joe wrote:
On Sep 25, 7:56 am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 Don't even think about trying to drive long screws with a cordless drill. You need an impact driver. Impact driver? What's the point of that? Any variable speed corded drill should do fine. |
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desgnr wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. I have a Harbor Freight corded Multi-tool (the Fein Multimaster knock off) and a Harbor Freight 12" sliding compound miter saw. The HF multi tool has served me well. But it is no clone of the Fein. The HF tool runs at one speed, and that is an oscillations per minute rate that approximately matches the low speed setting of the Fein. But for $35, I am happy with it. The compound saw was was also priced right, about $150. I am less happy with it. Quality is noticeably low. I had to return the first one, due to a clamp screw that was stripped right out of the box. It also had flaking paint out of the box. The dust collection is a joke. I've made quite a few cuts with the saw, and there is no saw dust in the dust collection bag. It all hits the floor (and me, and the saw). Worst defect: the saw came with a fence that is out of square. When I put a straight edge against the fence, one side is out of alignment with the other by at least one millimeter. That makes true precision cuts difficult if not impossible. Still, the saw does cut well, had plenty of power, and the results are much better than I can obtain with a had held Skil saw. -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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HF uses plastic gears and will not hold up. I bought the 18v kit from
Sears Crapsman. It came with circular saw, light and drill all on sale for $60. It would drill maybe 6 screws before battery was history. Charger took forever and the RPM was much too slow for any quick work. I won't make that mistake again. Ask yourself this question, after 6 screws are in and the battery is history "what should I have expected for $15 ?" Sure you have another battery but they take too long to charge and the hotter the battery is when you return it to charger the less efficent the recharge will be. Dewalt makes tools for HD. You can tell the difference between "HD special" and regular dewalt tools. The HD special Dewalts have a handle that is all yellow. The regular dewalts have a handle that is half black. The half black has the metal gears and comonly the XRP battery line. These things are heavy, BIG TIME, but they turn screws till carpnal tunnel sets in then only 1 hour recharge. Just to confuse you more, today we are migrating towards Lithium Ion batteries. The dewalt XRP is NOT lithium ion. I bought the Bosch 10v (any one of these: http://www.boschtools.com/Products/T....aspx?catid=63 )and cannot believe I waited so long for this. It does NOT have a chuck for putting drillbits in; it does not turn fast at all (300rpm max) but it drives 3" drywall screws till seemingly forever. It fits in my back pocket and handles replacing electrical outlets to removing rusted 3" screws. The lithium battery is fanstastic. Many people say "cry ONCE over purchase price and avoid crying every time you use a tool you bought for cheap." HTH, Tom On Sep 25, 8:56*am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. |
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"Tom" wrote Many people say "cry ONCE over purchase price and avoid crying every time you use a tool you bought for cheap." HTH, Tom I have and have seen tools that are fifty years old, and better than a lot of the crap they sell for new now. Picked up a Ridgid 12" pipe wrench today, well used, but still good .............. $1. Shop around, but be an informed shopper, just as you have provided the info on how to recognize the different grades of DeWalt. With few exceptions, quality tools do cost, but they last and last and last. Steve |
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On Sep 25, 8:56�am, "desgnr" wrote:
How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 As you can see by all the responses that there are many opinions. You have to ask yourself how much you are going to use it. If you plan on using it 8 hours a day, get a corded drill. If you are only using it a couple hours a day, get a cordless. You'll probably find that the drill will outlast the batteries before having to replace the drill. It seems to me that my Ryobi batteries last much longer and run longer than the Craftsman, Firestorm and another cheapie brand I have. The Ryobi wasn't that much more and I would buy another. I can also use the batteries in the other Ryobi tools I have. But, none of them will withstand everyday use. Hank |
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Hustlin' Hank wrote:
On Sep 25, 8:56�am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 As you can see by all the responses that there are many opinions. You have to ask yourself how much you are going to use it. If you plan on using it 8 hours a day, get a corded drill. If you are only using it a couple hours a day, get a cordless. You'll probably find that the drill will outlast the batteries before having to replace the drill. It seems to me that my Ryobi batteries last much longer and run longer than the Craftsman, Firestorm and another cheapie brand I have. The Ryobi wasn't that much more and I would buy another. I can also use the batteries in the other Ryobi tools I have. But, none of them will withstand everyday use. Hank I have a 16 year old B&D 12 volt cordless and I didn't have to replace the batteries until last fall. I repaired a broken solder joint in the charger that was caused by years of the kit being bounced around in a service vehicle, but that's the only other problem I've had with the B&D drill. The old drill and case are identical to the newer Dewalt drill and case, even the Dewalt 12 volt batteries fit it. I believe B&D slapped a Dewalt label on the higher quality drills and branded the cheap stuff B&D after the Dewalt company was bought out. TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote in
: Hustlin' Hank wrote: On Sep 25, 8:56�am, "desgnr" wrote: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. Any recomendations appreciated. -- Dell Inspiron Pentium dual-core 2.2 GHz 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 As you can see by all the responses that there are many opinions. You have to ask yourself how much you are going to use it. If you plan on using it 8 hours a day, get a corded drill. If you are only using it a couple hours a day, get a cordless. You'll probably find that the drill will outlast the batteries before having to replace the drill. It seems to me that my Ryobi batteries last much longer and run longer than the Craftsman, Firestorm and another cheapie brand I have. The Ryobi wasn't that much more and I would buy another. I can also use the batteries in the other Ryobi tools I have. But, none of them will withstand everyday use. Hank I have a 16 year old B&D 12 volt cordless and I didn't have to replace the batteries until last fall. I repaired a broken solder joint in the charger that was caused by years of the kit being bounced around in a service vehicle, but that's the only other problem I've had with the B&D drill. The old drill and case are identical to the newer Dewalt drill and case, even the Dewalt 12 volt batteries fit it. I believe B&D slapped a Dewalt label on the higher quality drills and branded the cheap stuff B&D after the Dewalt company was bought out. TDD Yea I have some pretty old B&D stuff including a 7.25 circular saw that was bought in 1983, seen a lot of use and not even new brushes. Bearings are noisy as hell and it sounds like it's gonna die next use. That next use has been going on for 3 yrs. Couple of weeks ago I was in Ollie's Outlet (place like Big Lots) and they had a bunch of Skill saws to my amazement. Probably disco models. 39.95 for a 13a, 2.5hp, carbide blade, case, good feel, nice indicators and adjusters. Kinda hard to pass up at that price with only a Night of the Living Dead B&D on hand. http://www.skiltools.com/en/AllTools...lt.html?pid=56 00-04&cid=45 And Staples today had a 16gb thumb drive for 29 bucks. Had to pop for that cause my external drive has been kaput for some time and living dangerously. Backed up all my data files on a thumb drive now that's half the size of my old 256mb one. Still have half the drive empty. |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:40:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote in : -snip- I have a 16 year old B&D 12 volt cordless and I didn't -snip- Yea I have some pretty old B&D stuff including a 7.25 circular saw that was bought in 1983, seen a lot of use and not even new brushes. Bearings are noisy as hell and it sounds like it's gonna die next use. That next use has been going on for 3 yrs. Don't hold your breath. My B&D 7.25 was a gift from my father-in-law in 1970. Those bearings have squealing since 1990 or so. I don't use it much any more-- but a couple months ago I threw a diamond blade in it and cut 20' of basement floor. It likes the real dramatic jobs with lots of dust & noise. When it dies [if I don't go first] I'm going to give one of these a go- http://www.drillspot.com/products/57...mp_hd_circ_saw $150 for a worm-drive saw that cuts steel as well as wood & plastic. Jim |
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Jim Elbrecht wrote in
: On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:40:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote in : -snip- I have a 16 year old B&D 12 volt cordless and I didn't -snip- Yea I have some pretty old B&D stuff including a 7.25 circular saw that was bought in 1983, seen a lot of use and not even new brushes. Bearings are noisy as hell and it sounds like it's gonna die next use. That next use has been going on for 3 yrs. Don't hold your breath. My B&D 7.25 was a gift from my father-in-law in 1970. Those bearings have squealing since 1990 or so. I don't use it much any more-- but a couple months ago I threw a diamond blade in it and cut 20' of basement floor. It likes the real dramatic jobs with lots of dust & noise. When it dies [if I don't go first] I'm going to give one of these a go- http://www.drillspot.com/products/57...tools_ragesaw_ 7-1_4_mp_hd_circ_saw $150 for a worm-drive saw that cuts steel as well as wood & plastic. Jim We should get to know one another better. Christmas is nearing. I'd like one as a gift Jim, ol' buddy...pal. |
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The electric tools (battery and plug in) are OK but clearly not in the same
class as the top of the line stuff from HD. Of course selling for about 1/3rd the price does provide some compensation. When HF shines (IMO) is with pneumatic tools. The HF might not be quite the same qualify as the best HD tools but a HF store has a heck of a lot more variety than any HD. Moreover HF seems to have a variety of fasteners available for each of the pnematic tools it sells. If the already has an air compressor (he can pick something up cheap at HF) he may well find a pneumatic tool that's as useful as the corresponding electric tool. |
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:56:10 -0400, against all advice, something
compelled "desgnr" , to say: How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. So . . . just that one time? HF should be fine. -- Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats. - Howard Aiken |
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How does Harbor Freight tools rate compared to Home depot tools ? I am currently looking for a coordless drill driver capable of driving a 3" screw into a 2" x 4" stud. I have a Makita angle grinder..its about 15 years old and has given great service over the years under tough conditions. You can buy them new for about $ 50-60 I was visiting the inlaws in FL after the hurricanes about 8 yrs ago, Needed to do some aluminum repair so we bought a similar angle grinder from HFT..on sale for under $ 20. It got so HOT while running that after about 5 minutes that it couldnt be held in the ungloved hand and made twice the noise of the Makita. I wouldn't have expected it to last more than a year or so, if that. If I needed a certain power tool to do one job (then probably never or rarely use it again) I'd get one from HFT. If I planned to use it regularly over the years, I'd get a "name brand". My 10 year old DeWalt 12V VSR drill will drive 3" screws..problem is, I'm on my THIRD set of rechargeable batteries for it...Drill won't DIE..the batteries do. I see Hitachi 18V impact drivers on sale here and there. They're great for driving screws but the "drill" model is more versatile IMO. If I had some time to "look around", I'd consider SEARS Craftsman 18V VSR drill..IF.. I could find it on sale. They re often on sale for "40% off ! ...maybe $ 69- 79.00. I had a couple over the years that worked quite well. Make sure you get the TWO speed 0-450/ 0 - 1400 or 1800 RPM (The single speed are hopelessly slow) with the bigger One hour charger (not the cheapie little charger they sell with some) |
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