I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted. Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve

On Jul 28, 12:59*am, "SteveB" wrote:
I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. *Low
speed. *It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. *They are a little dryrotted. *Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless?

I think I'd start a rubber company and manufacture "Z" rated tires and
replace them every 2-3 months for that application.
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- gpsman

on 7/28/2009 12:59 AM (ET) SteveB wrote the following:
I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted. Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve

I would just put the slime in there for now. You're not going to use
them on the highway, and if you get a flat, you're no going to have to
pull it by hand, like a flat wheelbarrow tire. I'm frugal. I won't buy
anything unless I can do it cheaper with what I've got. :-)

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted. Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve


There are solid foam tires in that size.

Sample:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/21...oam_wheel.html

That's funny. They are Chinese manufacturers of tires. You probably have to
buy 10,000 tires minimum.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted.
Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use
them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're
flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve


There are solid foam tires in that size.

Sample:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/21...oam_wheel.html

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:10:11 -0700, "Walter R."
wrote:

That's funny. They are Chinese manufacturers of tires. You probably have to
buy 10,000 tires minimum.

Maybe not! Buy Flat Free tires at Lowe's.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...247&lpage=none

They work even with a framing nail in the tire.

If they were mine, I'd go with the tubes. And spray the
outside of the tires generously with Armor All, which helps
resist dry rot.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"SteveB" wrote in message
...
I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for
farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little
dryrotted. Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new
tires and use them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the
time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime
in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire
place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the
tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free
anyway.

Steve

On Jul 28, 12:59*am, "SteveB" wrote:
I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. *Low
speed. *It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. *They are a little dryrotted. *Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? *Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. *I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. *My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. *I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve

We had an old riding mower with big knobby tires, one of which was
flat.

My son bought a cart from HF to tow behind his new mower for
neighborhood jobs, but it had very small tires. We took out the
reciprocating saw and grinder, enlarged the wheel wells, put some
tubes in the old mower tires and put them on the trailer - a much more
rugged look.

The tubes/tires have held air for well over 5 years. The cart is
getting pretty rusted out, but the old tires are still rolling along.

Ordered two tubes today. They will come in Friday. Tubes and installing in
tires ..... $13 plus tax. These don't go over 5 mph.

Steve

On Jul 28, 4:25*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Ordered two tubes today. *They will come in Friday. *Tubes and installing in
tires ..... $13 plus tax. *These don't go over 5 mph.

Steve

Good choice. I have the exact same situation and have been running
tubes in my cracked tired for the past 4 years without problems. And
I really load my cart down with sand, dirt, and firewood until the
tires run almost flat. I'd estimate 500-600 lbs pulled over uneven
ground. I just take it slow & easy. I almost wish they'd blow so I
can justify a new cart, but they just keep hanging in there.

Red

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted. Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve



I'd be ready to replace them with better quality, but from a cost
standpoint and how I used the trailer I'd use the trailer until the
tires fall off.

On Jul 28, 12:59*am, "SteveB" wrote:
I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. *Low
speed. *It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. *They are a little dryrotted. *Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use them
tubeless? *Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. *I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. *My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. *I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve

When my father in law passed away I started taking care of the place.
He had a nice riding lawm more but the tires on it were dry rotted and
leaked. Instead of buying new tires I put tubes in them and got nearly
three more years of use out of them.

Jimmie

Have your tires foam filled, buy a set of foam filled tires.
Probably about $40 each. They weigh a bunch, but last a long
time.

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______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"SteveB" wrote in message
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I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm
use. Low speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a
little dryrotted. Would you get some tubes and put them in
there, or just get new tires and use them tubeless? Trouble I
have with tubeless tires is half the time they're flat, and they
can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place
would probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the
tubes. I do business with them, and they usually do flat fixes
for free anyway.

Steve

wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. Low
speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. They are a little dryrotted.
Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use
them
tubeless? Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're
flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve


The last time I needed tires for my boat trailer it was cheaper to buy
a tire and wheel from a trailer place than buying a tire and getting
it mounted. Even Northern Tools beats that tire/mount price and we
have a trailer manufacturer who beats NT.

I live in a small community where good deals are a way to keep customers. I
go to Discount tires because they have fixed about half a dozen flats for
me, and some small ATV remounts where they wouldn't seal, and they just wave
you off when you go to pay. Of course, I go back when I need tires, and
they have that on record.

I have to go to the big city in the next couple of days, so will take one
and see. But yeah, it'd be nice to just put two new ones on there, but at
the lowest cost. I just use this to haul junk, rocks, limbs, sand, etc, so
it doesn't have to be that great.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
....
I live in a small community where good deals are a way to keep customers. I
go to Discount tires because they have fixed about half a dozen flats for
me, and some small ATV remounts where they wouldn't seal, and they just wave
you off when you go to pay. Of course, I go back when I need tires, and
they have that on record.

I have to go to the big city in the next couple of days, so will take one
and see. But yeah, it'd be nice to just put two new ones on there, but at
the lowest cost. I just use this to haul junk, rocks, limbs, sand, etc, so
it doesn't have to be that great.
....

For cheap if go out of town as others said can probably by those
tires/wheels cheap as just the tubes.

OTOH, in small towns there are advantages/reasons to keep the locals in
business--I rarely take that route for only a couple bucks for just that
reason; too many places are already either merely shells of their former
selves or gone. People complain about what they've lost but too many of
those same people didn't do anything to help prevent that...

--

"dpb" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
...
I live in a small community where good deals are a way to keep customers.
I go to Discount tires because they have fixed about half a dozen flats
for me, and some small ATV remounts where they wouldn't seal, and they
just wave you off when you go to pay. Of course, I go back when I need
tires, and they have that on record.

I have to go to the big city in the next couple of days, so will take one
and see. But yeah, it'd be nice to just put two new ones on there, but
at the lowest cost. I just use this to haul junk, rocks, limbs, sand,
etc, so it doesn't have to be that great.
...

For cheap if go out of town as others said can probably by those
tires/wheels cheap as just the tubes.

OTOH, in small towns there are advantages/reasons to keep the locals in
business--I rarely take that route for only a couple bucks for just that
reason; too many places are already either merely shells of their former
selves or gone. People complain about what they've lost but too many of
those same people didn't do anything to help prevent that...

--
Not to hijack the thread but if the local business can't compete you are
only prolonging the agony..Their are plenty of ways for locals to remain
competive , starting a co-op to increase buying power , diversefing products
, providing more advice ,being open on the weekends ect. ,ect...If the local
"just expects " folks to shop there and pay higher prices just to keep him
employed then to bad...I don't have money just to throw away...I suppose we
should be still buying buggy whips to keep buggy whip makers in business???
I doubt locals would pay me more for drywall work just to keep me
employed..They get bids.....And for me to remain competive I have to buy
materials where they are cheaper and are open when I need them...It's called
"capitolism"...Time does not stand still and if they won't change they will
go the way of buggy whip makers and should...Just my 2 cents.....

benick wrote:
....
Not to hijack the thread but if the local business can't compete you are
only prolonging the agony..Their are plenty of ways for locals to remain
competive , starting a co-op to increase buying power , diversefing
products , providing more advice ,being open on the weekends ect.
,ect..

OTOH, if locals simply get into the habit of either going online or out
of town routinely, it doesn't matter what the local merchant does, either.

As for the "agony" part, one soon can learn what real agony is when
there no longer is a local grocery, pharmacy, whatever, entirely.

At that point most gladly admit they should have been more aggressive in
supporting local merchants but it's too late.

--

"dpb" wrote in message
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benick wrote:
...
Not to hijack the thread but if the local business can't compete you are
only prolonging the agony..Their are plenty of ways for locals to remain
competive , starting a co-op to increase buying power , diversefing
products , providing more advice ,being open on the weekends ect. ,ect..

OTOH, if locals simply get into the habit of either going online or out of
town routinely, it doesn't matter what the local merchant does, either.

As for the "agony" part, one soon can learn what real agony is when there
no longer is a local grocery, pharmacy, whatever, entirely.

At that point most gladly admit they should have been more aggressive in
supporting local merchants but it's too late.

--

If the reason local folk "get in the habit" of going online or out to the
outskirts to Walmart ,Sears,Target , Cosco , Homedepot , Lowes ,Walgreens ,
Best Buy , or the mall , ect. is because said local merchant isn't OPEN ,
doesn't have the inventory or is more expensive , especially now that times
are hard and every dollar counts , then it is the local merchants
fault....In case you haven't noticed mom isn't home during the day to shop
from 8-5 and dad works outside of the downtown area and often only has
evenings and Sunday to shop...Same for mom.... If the local merchant doesn't
change with the times he will be left behind..The facts may be cruel but
they are the facts.....Times change and if you don't change with them you
get left behind...If they work at it and stay open late a few times a week
,start a co-op to increase buying power to compete price wise , open on
Sunday , provide exceptional customer service or otherwise find their nich
they will survive just fine , but if they just keep doing what they have
done for the last 30 years they won't......Sad but true....

On Jul 28, 8:07*am, "benick" wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message

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SteveB wrote:
...
I live in a small community where good deals are a way to keep customers.
I go to Discount tires because they have fixed about half a dozen flats
for me, and some small ATV remounts where they wouldn't seal, and they
just wave you off when you go to pay. *Of course, I go back when I need
tires, and they have that on record.

I have to go to the big city in the next couple of days, so will take one
and see. *But yeah, it'd be nice to just put two new ones on there, but
at the lowest cost. *I just use this to haul junk, rocks, limbs, sand,
etc, so it doesn't have to be that great.
...

For cheap if go out of town as others said can probably by those
tires/wheels cheap as just the tubes.

OTOH, in small towns there are advantages/reasons to keep the locals in
business--I rarely take that route for only a couple bucks for just that
reason; too many places are already either merely shells of their former
selves or gone. *People complain about what they've lost but too many of
those same people didn't do anything to help prevent that...

--

Not to hijack the thread but if the local business can't compete you are
only prolonging the agony..Their are plenty of ways for locals to remain
competive , starting a co-op to increase buying power , diversefing products
, providing more advice ,being open on the weekends ect. ,ect...If the local
"just expects " folks to shop there and pay higher prices just to keep him
employed then to bad...I don't have money just to throw away...I suppose we
should be still buying buggy whips to keep buggy whip makers in business???
I doubt locals would pay me more for drywall work just to keep me
employed..They get bids.....And for me to remain competive I have to buy
materials where they are cheaper and are open when I need them...It's called
"capitolism"...Time does not stand still and if they won't change they will
go the way of buggy whip makers and should...Just my 2 cents.....- Hide quoted text -

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Personally I beleive many local businesses will never be able to
compete in a price game against large scale operations. Economies of
scale are very biased towards large operations and marketplaces.

The extras that are encompassed in small business pricing are often
intangible. Community, personal service, knowledge, etc. We've all
experienced the loss of personal service and business integrity that
evaporates in an operation that exists by paring costs to the bone.

Whenever possible I give the business to locals, simply because I feel
there is value in the extra few bucks that a product or service may
cost. I know the biz owner isn't getting rich, but I get a better
feeling shopping there than feeding my bucks to the Borg. Call it a
concience tax.

I think small businesses will be headed the way of the Dodo as the
baby boomers fade. People have made their decisions and are living on
artificial wealth, therefore price is king in most marketplaces. Just
don't bitch about missing the goold old days once they're gone.

Used to be "Price, Quality, Service - pick any two". Now it's "Price,
Quality, Service - try for one".

Oh, and by the way, it's CapitAlism ;-)

ATV for farm use. Low speed. It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it.

HFT, tires from $ 4.99 depending on your axle

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...CategoryID=810

On Jul 27, 11:49*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:59:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I just bought a very small trailer to use behind my ATV for farm use. *Low
speed. *It has 4.00/4.80-8 tires on it. *They are a little dryrotted.
Would
you get some tubes and put them in there, or just get new tires and use
them
tubeless? *Trouble I have with tubeless tires is half the time they're
flat,
and they can be a booger to seat the bead. *I put some Slime in there, and
once they seal, they're pretty good to go. *My local tire place would
probably put the new tubes in there for the price of the tubes. *I do
business with them, and they usually do flat fixes for free anyway.

Steve

The last time I needed tires for my boat trailer it was cheaper to buy
a tire and wheel from a trailer place than buying a tire and getting
it mounted. Even Northern Tools beats that tire/mount price and we
have a trailer manufacturer who beats NT.

I live in a small community where good deals are a way to keep customers. *I
go to Discount tires because they have fixed about half a dozen flats for
me, and some small ATV remounts where they wouldn't seal, and they just wave
you off when you go to pay. *Of course, I go back when I need tires, and
they have that on record.

I have to go to the big city in the next couple of days, so will take one
and see. *But yeah, it'd be nice to just put two new ones on there, but at
the lowest cost. *I just use this to haul junk, rocks, limbs, sand, etc, so
it doesn't have to be that great.

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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The first time I have a flat on such a tire it have a tube put in.
You are not talking about buying the Taj Mahal and the minor cost is
well worth the avoidance of having _another_ flat. Done it on 3 tires
thus far (may have been more) and had no more flats on any of them.

Harry K