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Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in
one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
WhiteTea wrote:
I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. .... If they're not working and the breaker isn't tripped, how will that isolate anything? There will be no change. You can isolate all other circuits and perhaps guess which one feeds the one from that, but that's all... The symptom is one of a loose connection from the last feed point that is live on the circuit feeding the faulty boxes. It may be at the first box that is not working or the last one that is. -- |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 8:47*am, Hipupchuck wrote:
WhiteTea wrote: I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy Look behind a dresser for a GFCI outlet with a red light and tripped button, even in another room or closet. Looking for a GFCI is a good idea, but not all GFCI's have red lights. This is the latest stupid idea from the stupid bitch regulatory organization. Adding a GFCI is a code compliant method for allowing the installation of 3-prong outlets downstream of the GFCI even if there is no ground. This allowed use makes the regulatory organization a friendly organization. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 8:16*am, "Colbyt" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt Thanks. I flipped all the breakers and the circuits are still dead. I will check the GFCIs. Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 8:16*am, "Colbyt" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 7:47*am, Hipupchuck wrote:
WhiteTea wrote: I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy Look behind a dresser for a GFCI outlet with a red light and tripped button, even in another room or closet. This is the latest stupid idea from the stupid bitch regulatory organization. I think one problem is that there are too many GFCI where they are not necessary. I checked one in one bathroom and this is what I found. (After doing a test and reset.) 1. Voltage is 116V going into the GFCI. 2. No voltage when checking the two outlets. What is the purpose of the light on the GFCI. It obviously does not show that the GFCI is working. Maybe it's a nightlight. :-) Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
WhiteTea wrote:
On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote:
WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message .... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
WhiteTea wrote:
On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Hi, GFCI can go bad. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 10:21*am, WhiteTea wrote:
the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig Refrigerators on a GFI are not a good idea. Building codes commonly require a dedicated circuit for such. YMMV Joe |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 10:23*am, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. It's my daughter's house. She is awaiting a fridge that will fit in the space between some cabinets because the current one is too wide. She had it plugged into an outlet in the garage. I have now plugged the extension cord into the outlet made for the fridge. Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 10:23*am, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. See previous post. I plugged the fish tank pump back into the same circuit. Maybe with the fridge on a separate line, the pump won't trip. If it was my house, I would have one dedicated wire and breaker just for the garage outlets. We'll see what happens. Andy |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... What is the purpose of the light on the GFCI. It obviously does not show that the GFCI is working. All the ones I have seen with an led only lite when it is tripped or blown. Using a 1500w hairdyer on a 15 amp GFIC can kill them over a period of time. Also sometimes they just die, always in the tripped position has been my experience. Colbyt |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 1:46*pm, "Colbyt" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... What is the purpose of the light on the GFCI. It obviously does not show that the GFCI is working. All the ones I have seen with an led only lite when it is tripped or blown. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:32:24 -0400, Hipupchuck
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 10:23 am, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41 am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. See previous post. I plugged the fish tank pump back into the same circuit. Maybe with the fridge on a separate line, the pump won't trip. If it was my house, I would have one dedicated wire and breaker just for the garage outlets. We'll see what happens. Andy Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. What about an electric razor motor? Electric tooth brush motor? Clippers motor? I only want my GFCI in the main panel so I can find it. All the others are bypassed. Try reading what I wrote. Your question is already answered. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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mm wrote: Huh? The reason not to put a fridge on a gfci is that if it trips all the food can spoil. Huh? The reason not to put a frige on a gfci is that electric motors are quite likely to trip them. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:29:59 -0400, mm
wrote: On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:29:25 -0400, wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I Huh? The reason not to put a fridge on a gfci is that if it trips all the food can spoil. Does your fridge have a motor by any chance? |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 12:29*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 10:23*am, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. See previous post. I plugged the fish tank pump back into the same circuit. Maybe with the fridge on a separate line, the pump won't trip. If it was my house, I would have one dedicated wire and breaker just for the garage outlets. We'll see what happens. Andy Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - FWIW, I ran 2 fishtanks on separate GFCI's for years without a single trip. The tanks were in the kid's rooms. I assumed that if code calls for GFCI's near any water (sink, shower, garage) then a light fixture in a flimsy plastic housing hovering over 20 gallons of water would certainly warrant protection, especially when kids are involved. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 7, 2:46*pm, "Colbyt" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message ... What is the purpose of the light on the GFCI. It obviously does not show that the GFCI is working. All the ones I have seen with an led only lite when it is tripped or blown. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 9, 11:03*pm, mm wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:45 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 7, 12:29*pm, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 10:23*am, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home.. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. See previous post. I plugged the fish tank pump back into the same circuit. Maybe with the fridge on a separate line, the pump won't trip. If it was my house, I would have one dedicated wire and breaker just for the garage outlets. We'll see what happens. Andy Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - FWIW, I ran 2 fishtanks on separate GFCI's for years without a single trip. The tanks were in the kid's rooms. I assumed that if code calls for GFCI's near any water (sink, shower, garage) then a light fixture in a flimsy plastic housing hovering over 20 gallons of water would certainly warrant protection, especially when kids are involved. Obviously, GFCI's, like fuses, shuld never trip unless there is a reason. Regardless of your very small sample group, fishtanks are frequently a cause of GFCI's tripping, for obvious reasons. Because of that potential, they should always be on a GFCI protected circuit. Hmmm. Won't that likely kill tropical fish if the breaker trips and isn't noticed soon? *Especially if you are saying that they trip frequently. My Oscar broke his heater, which was encased in a big glass test tube, and, I believe, died of the cold. *I'd had him for a couple years. Isn't there a better way to protect whatever is being protected, like an isolation transformer big enough to power the pump and the heater and the light but no bigger? *Or some other method?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So how many other groups are you going to post this inane crap to loser? Let me help you. I forwarded it to some "special" groups just for you. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Jul 9, 11:03*pm, mm wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:08:45 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 7, 12:29*pm, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 10:23*am, wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 9:41*am, LouB wrote: WhiteTea wrote: On Jul 7, 8:16 am, "Colbyt" wrote: "WhiteTea" wrote in message ... I have some outlets and a light switch that have stopped working in one room. None of the breakers are tripped. All I can think of is to shut off and then back on one breaker at a time to isolate which one controls the non-functioning outlets and switch. Any feedback appreciated. Andy I agree with that attempt. *Sometimes, not often, a breaker will trip and fail to show it fully. Checking every GFIC in the house is also a good thing to do because this portion of the circuit might be after a GFIC that has tripped. If neither of those solve the problem then you have to trace the circuit looking for a loose connection. Colbyt I couldn't find any tripped GFCIs. I recall having problems with a GFCI when I had a mobile home.. It kept tripping for no reason. This is going to be fun. Are you sure the outlet is dead? *Maybe what is plugged into the outlet is sick. I used a voltmeter. I just found that 2 GFCIs had tripped, resetting got all the outlets going. I would like to know why they tripped. As far as I can tell, the load at the time it tripped was 5.8 amps for a frig and a small amount for a fish tank pump and light. Andy The refrigerator should NOT be on a circuit with a GFCI. Your fishtank is a likely cause of the GFCI tripping. See previous post. I plugged the fish tank pump back into the same circuit. Maybe with the fridge on a separate line, the pump won't trip. If it was my house, I would have one dedicated wire and breaker just for the garage outlets. We'll see what happens. Andy Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - FWIW, I ran 2 fishtanks on separate GFCI's for years without a single trip. The tanks were in the kid's rooms. I assumed that if code calls for GFCI's near any water (sink, shower, garage) then a light fixture in a flimsy plastic housing hovering over 20 gallons of water would certainly warrant protection, especially when kids are involved. Obviously, GFCI's, like fuses, shuld never trip unless there is a reason. Regardless of your very small sample group, fishtanks are frequently a cause of GFCI's tripping, for obvious reasons. Because of that potential, they should always be on a GFCI protected circuit. Hmmm. Won't that likely kill tropical fish if the breaker trips and isn't noticed soon? *Especially if you are saying that they trip frequently. My Oscar broke his heater, which was encased in a big glass test tube, and, I believe, died of the cold. *I'd had him for a couple years. Isn't there a better way to protect whatever is being protected, like an isolation transformer big enough to power the pump and the heater and the light but no bigger? *Or some other method?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - P;ug it in yur asshole dude..or if yuo know she can generate 2000 volts with that sloppy dripping pussy of hers when she plugs that man mad vasgia into it..............spark fly. Tynk7@aol the chick with a dick, man made at that from MIchael Jacksons missing nose |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. If that's true, then NO WONDER mine flipped when I plugged my leaf-blower into it! But really -- I thought it was a LOT safer to use gfci's. Like in a basement shop with concrete floor on high-humidity day. Electric drill -- you'd plug that into a gfci, wouldn't you? Or in a kitchen, where maybe EVERY outlet is either individually gfci'd (I gather from reading this group that that's overkill) or (better) is "downwind" of one. Then what about, you know, a blender, cuisineart, etc. Or even a shopvac for messy times. --- Please, just what is it about a motor that's bad for a gfci? (Not that I have any real idea or feeling for how one works.) Thanks! David |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:19:53 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:06:28 +0000 (UTC), (David Combs) wrote: In article , wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. That is interesting, but if true, why does my electric power washer come with a built in GFCI? Lawyers, not engineers, made that decision. |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:06:28 +0000 (UTC), (David Combs) wrote: In article , wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. I had a pool and the outdoor electrical outlet for the pump motor had to be on a GFCI circuit by code. In addition, all of the outdoor outlets on my present house are GFCI protected. What other than a motor driven device am I going to use these outlets for? |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
David Combs wrote:
In article , wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. Motorize items that should never be plugged into a GFCI: Sump Pump Well/Cistern Pump Refrigerator/Freezer Garage Door Opener |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:44:41 -0400, Congoleum Breckenridge
wrote: David Combs wrote: In article , wrote: Generally speaking, you don't want anything with a motor on a GFCI. I don't think the fishtank pump motor is big enough to matter, though. The reason I suspect the fishtank for tripping the GFCI is the abundance of water and humidity involved. If the light fixture gets even slightly damp, it could trip the GFCI. Motorize items that should never be plugged into a GFCI: Sump Pump Well/Cistern Pump Refrigerator/Freezer Garage Door Opener Most of which are not really because they're more likely to trip a GFCI (either due to a fault in the device or the GFCI), but because the consequence of the power being cut to them is greater than the electrical risk the GFCI is protecting against, which isn't true of other devices, motors or not. I wouldn't plug my life support equipment into a GFCI either, but I certainly am happy to know my power washer, hair dryer, trouble light, etc are on one. Josh |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:36:31 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:19:53 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:06:28 +0000 (UTC), (David Combs) wrote: .... That is interesting, but if true, why does my electric power washer come with a built in GFCI? Lawyers, not engineers, made that decision. That reminds me of the plumber and the code people. The plumber wrote to the officials and explained how acid was a great tool for clearing a drain. They wrote back with a long winded explination why it would not work. The plumber wrote back thanking them for agreeing. After a few more letters the authorities were frustrated and worte "It burns the ^$%% out of the pipes." The plumber finally got the idea. If you think you know more than the people who write the national codes, maybe you should write them a lettler ... |
Outlets went out but no breaker is tripped
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