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Greg Esres May 29th 09 01:51 AM

U brackets, nailing
 
I have some U-shaped brackets that I'm nailing into a 4x4 post. The
brackets will hold a 2x4 stringer. The nailing hole in the bracket is
in the base of the "U", and it's hard to nail the nail without
damaging the surrounding legs of the bracket. I've been using a
nailset. Is there any technique to make this easier or any piece of
equipment that will help? I'm wondering if a framing nailer could
drive a nail right through the metal into the wood.

Any thoughts appreciated.

SteveBell[_2_] May 29th 09 03:07 AM

U brackets, nailing
 

I have some U-shaped brackets that I'm nailing into a 4x4 post. The
brackets will hold a 2x4 stringer. The nailing hole in the bracket is
in the base of the "U", and it's hard to nail the nail without
damaging the surrounding legs of the bracket. I've been using a
nailset. Is there any technique to make this easier or any piece of
equipment that will help? I'm wondering if a framing nailer could
drive a nail right through the metal into the wood.


A framing nailer will *possibly* drive a nail through the metal. Most
likely, the nail will curl up into a coil, then bounce back and put out
your eye. (Your mom did warn you that you could put out an eye, didn't
she? :-) )

Get yourself a palm nailer. You'll wonder how you ever lived without it.

I've seen ads for bracket nailers that let you put the nail accurately
through the holes, but I've never used one.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

Greg Esres May 29th 09 04:30 AM

U brackets, nailing
 
On Fri, 29 May 2009 02:07:34 +0000 (UTC), "SteveBell"
wrote:

Get yourself a palm nailer. You'll wonder how you ever lived without it.



YES!!! That's exactly what I need. I will order one today.

Thank you!!!


fftt May 29th 09 06:53 AM

U brackets, nailing
 
On May 28, 5:51*pm, Greg Esres wrote:
I have some U-shaped brackets that I'm nailing into a 4x4 post. *The
brackets will hold a 2x4 stringer. *The nailing hole in the bracket is
in the base of the "U", and it's hard to nail the nail without
damaging the surrounding legs of the bracket. *I've been using a
nailset. *Is there any technique to make this easier or any piece of
equipment that will help? *I'm wondering if a framing nailer could
drive a nail right through the metal into the wood.

Any thoughts appreciated.


If you angle the nail you should be able to hand drive the joist
hanger nails....use a milled face hammer

Steve's suggestion of a Palm nailer is a good one but hand nailing is
doable.

cheers
Bob

Joe May 29th 09 07:01 PM

U brackets, nailing
 
On May 28, 9:07*pm, "SteveBell" wrote:
she? :-) )

snip


Get yourself a palm nailer. You'll wonder how you ever lived without it.


snip


Absolutely the best way to go. Just finished putting up a dozen joist
hangers with my palm nailer and it's like "Braaaappp!!" and they're
done. Get the Senco palm nailer if you can find one. It's a sweetheart
of a tool. You'll use it more than you think because it is more
controllable than swinging a framing hammer. Installing solid bridging
between joists is one good example where the hammer in a 14" space
seems to take forever and framing nailers can be too clumsy in
confined situations.

Joe

mm May 30th 09 02:45 AM

U brackets, nailing
 
On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:51:12 -0500, Greg Esres
wrote:

I have some U-shaped brackets that I'm nailing into a 4x4 post. The
brackets will hold a 2x4 stringer. The nailing hole in the bracket is
in the base of the "U", and it's hard to nail the nail without
damaging the surrounding legs of the bracket. I've been using a
nailset. Is there any technique to make this easier or any piece of
equipment that will help? I'm wondering if a framing nailer could
drive a nail right through the metal into the wood.

Any thoughts appreciated.


What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. I have a
rod from junior high school. My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.

Smitty Two May 30th 09 07:22 AM

U brackets, nailing
 
In article ,
mm wrote:



What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. I have a
rod from junior high school. My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.


It took you 12 weeks to knurl a rod?

David Nebenzahl May 30th 09 07:56 PM

U brackets, nailing
 
On 5/29/2009 11:22 PM Smitty Two spake thus:

In article ,
mm wrote:

What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. I have a
rod from junior high school. My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.


It took you 12 weeks to knurl a rod?


Boy, I thought *I* was a perfectionist.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

JIMMIE May 30th 09 08:09 PM

U brackets, nailing
 
On May 30, 2:22*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,

*mm wrote:

What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. *I have a
rod from junior high school. *My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. *So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.


It took you 12 weeks to knurl a rod?


In the shop class I was in that sounds about normal. One tool 40 kids
wanting to use it. Fifty minute class 10 minutes to take roll and get
to the shop another 10 or 15 minutes every day cleaning up before the
end of the period. If you needed to use something that took some setup
time forget it.

Jimmie

aemeijers May 30th 09 08:43 PM

U brackets, nailing
 
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
mm wrote:


What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. I have a
rod from junior high school. My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.


It took you 12 weeks to knurl a rod?


Chuckle. When you have 4 lathes for 30 students, and the 'teacher'
whizzes through the setup instructions in 30 seconds, sure. You have to
figure it out on your own, or try to get one of the kinder and more
observant students to assist you. BTDT.

--
aem sends...

mm May 31st 09 04:03 PM

U brackets, nailing
 
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:09:34 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote:

On May 30, 2:22*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,

*mm wrote:

What about using a drift or something wider than a nail set. *I have a
rod from junior high school. *My project was to use a lathe to make a
nail set, but the 12 weeks ended before I finished. *So it is knurled,
but other than that, unchanged.


It took you 12 weeks to knurl a rod?


When I reread my post, after it appeared here, I knew someone was
going to say that.

In the shop class I was in that sounds about normal. One tool 40 kids
wanting to use it. Fifty minute class 10 minutes to take roll and get
to the shop another 10 or 15 minutes every day cleaning up before the
end of the period. If you needed to use something that took some setup
time forget it.


You got it. I don't have a first-hand recollection of where all the
time went, but I think I got 20 to 60 minutes on the lathe altogether,
and even the knurling wasn't complete. Strangely, I use that rod more
than I use the nailset (or centerpunch?) that I was planning to make,
and bought instead.

Jimmie




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