How to paint window scrren
A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are
waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Newt ------------------------------------- ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351352 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
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How to paint window scrren
On Apr 30, 11:10*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , (enewton) wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. *Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. *I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. *But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. *What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Newt ------------------------------------- The first thing you should do, is send an email to the SUCK-O company telling them to stop spamming ahr. Then you should google "usenet" and try to figure out where the **** you are and what the **** you're doing. Is this a forwarded post, is it a real question? |
How to paint window scrren
On Apr 30, 10:47*am,
(enewton) wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting.. *Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. *I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. *But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. *What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Newt ------------------------------------- ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via *http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351352 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## I dont know about cleaning, but spray the sceen. |
How to paint window scrren
enewton wrote:
A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Use some sort of vile chemical to dissolve the plastic. Then spray with your favorite paint. In the era before aluminum screen mesh and convenient spray cans, screens were painted (and the steel wire HAD to be painted) with a brush! (This was even before rollers.) Sometimes the voids filled with paint so you had to go back over the screen with a toothpick to open them up. |
How to paint window scrren
enewton had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370702-.htm : Look, this is the first time I have used this website. It wasn't very user friendly coming in, and this doesn't help. If you have something substantial to say, say it. Newt ------------------------------------- ransley wrote: On Apr 30, 11:10=A0am, Smitty Two wrote: In article , (enewton) wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeti= ng. =A0Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. =A0I would like to paint about 30 square feet o= f the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have s= een done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. =A0But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expec= t to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. =A0What should I use for pai= nt and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous g= rid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Newt ------------------------------------- The first thing you should do, is send an email to the SUCK-O company telling them to stop spamming ahr. Then you should google "usenet" and try to figure out where the **** you are and what the **** you're doing. Is this a forwarded post, is it a real question? ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351404 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
How to paint window scrren
enewton had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370714-.htm : Thanks, HeyBub It turns out the underlying screen is steel or aluminum, as you suggest. What I am trying to achieve is a solid coating of paint over the screen, sealing all the mesh. So it seems like I would use a fairly thick paint spread thin on both the inside and outside, and probably a second coat to cover and produce a smooth finished surface. I know that my neighbor's window down the street has this exact effect, but have no idea what paint or technique was used. If I screw it up, all the screening will need to come out, which, of course, may be the end result anyway. Newt ------------------------------------- HeyBub wrote: enewton wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Use some sort of vile chemical to dissolve the plastic. Then spray with your favorite paint. In the era before aluminum screen mesh and convenient spray cans, screens were painted (and the steel wire HAD to be painted) with a brush! (This was even before rollers.) Sometimes the voids filled with paint so you had to go back over the screen with a toothpick to open them up. ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351408 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
How to paint window scrren
"enewton" wrote in message
... It turns out the underlying screen is steel or aluminum, as you suggest. What I am trying to achieve is a solid coating of paint over the screen, sealing all the mesh. So it seems like I would use a fairly thick paint spread thin on both the inside and outside, and probably a second coat to cover and produce a smooth finished surface. I know that my neighbor's window down the street has this exact effect, but have no idea what paint or technique was used. If I screw it up, all the screening will need to come out, which, of course, may be the end result anyway. Reasons are not yet clear why 1. it seems you did not ask at a window/screen store; 2. it seems you did not ask your neighbor. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
How to paint window scrren
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How to paint window scrren
enewton wrote:
If I screw it up, all the screening will need to come out, which, of course, may be the end result anyway. It's not clear to me whether these are separate screens with an aluminum frame and a rubber spline holding the screening material in the frame, OR, a wooden frame with screen stapled down and wood trim covering the edges. In either case, I think I would re-screen it. Go to the home store and buy a roll of screening material in the proper width - you can get metal screen, or fiberglass in various sun-blocking densities. For the aluminum frame/spline type, just pull out the spline, throw away the old screen, stretch the new screen, and reinsert the spline. You can reuse the spline unless it's really deteriorated. Wooden frame, remove the trim, pull the staples holding the screen, staple in new screen, replace trim. Easy-peasy. I replace the screen in my patio slider about every 2 years, due to pets, kids, etc. Jerry |
How to paint window scrren
enewton had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370747-.htm : 1. The generally knowledgeable hardware store owner I spoke to never heard of putting a solid coating over mesh screens. Same with paint store. Asking at HD or Lowes seemed like a waste of time. 2. The neighbor inherited the screens already coated and in good condition. Prior owner said he had had them painted but did not say with what or what technique. Thanks for the input, nevertheless. I suppose I can just buy a quart of exterior latex semi-gloss and go at it. Worst case is I'll have to rip out and replace the screens with something else, but that will still leave the color issue. I don't want clear/translucent plastic; i want solid color, solid-looking panel. It doesn't look like there is any substantial knowledge base out there on this subject. Newt ------------------------------------- Don Phillipson wrote: "enewton" wrote in message ... It turns out the underlying screen is steel or aluminum, as you suggest. What I am trying to achieve is a solid coating of paint over the screen, sealing all the mesh. So it seems like I would use a fairly thick paint spread thin on both the inside and outside, and probably a second coat to cover and produce a smooth finished surface. I know that my neighbor's window down the street has this exact effect, but have no idea what paint or technique was used. If I screw it up, all the screening will need to come out, which, of course, may be the end result anyway. Reasons are not yet clear why 1. it seems you did not ask at a window/screen store; 2. it seems you did not ask your neighbor. ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351574 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
How to paint window scrren
On Apr 30, 1:20*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
enewton wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. *I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. *But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. *What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Use some sort of vile chemical to dissolve the plastic. Then spray with your favorite paint. In the era before aluminum screen mesh and convenient spray cans, screens were painted (and the steel wire HAD to be painted) with a brush! (This was even before rollers.) Sometimes the voids filled with paint so you had to go back over the screen with a toothpick to open them up. In the past I would spray paint screens then before the paint dried hit them with compressed air to clear holes that were filled with paint. JImmie |
How to paint window scrren
enewton wrote:
enewton had written this in response to http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370747-.htm 1. The generally knowledgeable hardware store owner I spoke to never heard of putting a solid coating over mesh screens. Same with paint store. Asking at HD or Lowes seemed like a waste of time. 2. The neighbor inherited the screens already coated and in good condition. Prior owner said he had had them painted but did not say with what or what technique. Thanks for the input, nevertheless. I suppose I can just buy a quart of exterior latex semi-gloss and go at it. Worst case is I'll have to rip out and replace the screens with something else, but that will still leave the color issue. I don't want clear/translucent plastic; i want solid color, solid-looking panel. It doesn't look like there is any substantial knowledge base out there on this subject. A can of latex ain't gonna work. I doubt you can put it on the screen without turning the screen into a colored sheet. With the mesh density on today's screens, surface tension alone will cause the paint to jump to the next wire! The minimum thickness of the applied paint is probably greater than the distance to the next warp or woof! (I exaggerate, but probably not by much.) Get a can (probably several) of spray paint and stand way away from the target. |
How to paint window scrren
JIMMIE wrote:
On Apr 30, 1:20 pm, "HeyBub" wrote: enewton wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Use some sort of vile chemical to dissolve the plastic. Then spray with your favorite paint. In the era before aluminum screen mesh and convenient spray cans, screens were painted (and the steel wire HAD to be painted) with a brush! (This was even before rollers.) Sometimes the voids filled with paint so you had to go back over the screen with a toothpick to open them up. In the past I would spray paint screens then before the paint dried hit them with compressed air to clear holes that were filled with paint. Oooh! Swell idea! |
How to paint window scrren
enewton had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370912-.htm : Jerry, Jimmie & Others Thanks for the suggestions, but it is clear that I have not communicated very well, and I apologize. The "screens" I am working with are designed to have a thin plastic coating or membrane that seals the screen against the elements. They are, in effect, solid transparent sheets of plastic with a metal mesh "skeleton." I do not want to change that character except to renew the waterproof membrane where it has flaked off and make the screens opaque; I want the result to be a flat, solid panel, with no holes. I could rip out all the existing screen and install thin solid sheets of aluminum or other solid paneling and paint that, but I don't want to do all the fussy detail carpentry that would be involved. (There are 6 irregularly shaped panels.) A neighbor's similar panels were successfully painted without removing the coated screening, which (along with the splines) is in good shape. All I want is a paint that will cover the areas where the plastic membrane is intact (about 90 percent) and plug the holes on the other 10 percent where the plastic has flaked off, so the result is not a screen at all, but a solid membrane the same color as the house trim. I suspect that latex paint will be viscous enough to bridge all the holes, although it is going to ooze (I can only reach one side at a time.) One thin coat to form the new membrane and one finish coat for a smooth texture (I hope). Thanks to all who responded. Newt ------------------------------------- JIMMIE wrote: On Apr 30, 1:20=A0pm, "HeyBub" wrote: enewton wrote: A screen room outside my home has fixed plastic "screens" that are waterproofed by a thin coating of clear vinyl or similar plastic sheeting. Portions of the waterproofing layer are flaking off, exposing the underlying screen grid. =A0I would like to paint about 30 square feet of the screened area with an opaque paint to match the house trim, as i have seen done to similar screen rooms in the neighborhood. =A0But none of my neighbors know how the paint job was done on their homes. I would expect to sand lightly to remove flaking plastic. =A0What should I use for paint and how do I apply it to both the intact plastic areas and the porous grid areas where the plastic has flaked off? Use some sort of vile chemical to dissolve the plastic. Then spray with y= our favorite paint. In the era before aluminum screen mesh and convenient spray cans, screens were painted (and the steel wire HAD to be painted) with a brush! (This w= as even before rollers.) Sometimes the voids filled with paint so you had to= go back over the screen with a toothpick to open them up. In the past I would spray paint screens then before the paint dried hit them with compressed air to clear holes that were filled with paint. JImmie ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 351601 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
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enewton wrote:
enewton had written this in response to http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370912-.htm : Jerry, Jimmie & Others Thanks for the suggestions, but it is clear that I have not communicated very well, and I apologize. The "screens" I am working with are designed to have a thin plastic coating or membrane that seals the screen against the elements. They are, in effect, solid transparent sheets of plastic with a metal mesh "skeleton." I do not want to change that character except to renew the waterproof membrane where it has flaked off and make the screens opaque; I want the result to be a flat, solid panel, with no holes. I could rip out all the existing screen and install thin solid sheets of aluminum or other solid paneling and paint that, but I don't want to do all the fussy detail carpentry that would be involved. (There are 6 irregularly shaped panels.) A neighbor's similar panels were successfully painted without removing the coated screening, which (along with the splines) is in good shape. All I want is a paint that will cover the areas where the plastic membrane is intact (about 90 percent) and plug the holes on the other 10 percent where the plastic has flaked off, so the result is not a screen at all, but a solid membrane the same color as the house trim. I suspect that latex paint will be viscous enough to bridge all the holes, although it is going to ooze (I can only reach one side at a time.) One thin coat to form the new membrane and one finish coat for a smooth texture (I hope). Thanks to all who responded. Newt ------------------------------------- Aircraft dope is what you are looking for, like they used to paint fabric-covered airplanes with. Not a clue where a civilian would buy it, other than the tiny bottles model airplane guys use. Probably chock full of VOCs and all sorts of stuff that the gummint doesn't want us to play with any more. I suspect the stuff they sell to paint plastic car bumpers with may be worth a try- it is designed to bond to plastic and stay flexible. -- aem sends... |
How to paint window scrren
aemeijers wrote:
enewton wrote: enewton had written this in response to http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...en-370912-.htm : Jerry, Jimmie & Others Thanks for the suggestions, but it is clear that I have not communicated very well, and I apologize. The "screens" I am working with are designed to have a thin plastic coating or membrane that seals the screen against the elements. They are, in effect, solid transparent sheets of plastic with a metal mesh "skeleton." I do not want to change that character except to renew the waterproof membrane where it has flaked off and make the screens opaque; I want the result to be a flat, solid panel, with no holes. I could rip out all the existing screen and install thin solid sheets of aluminum or other solid paneling and paint that, but I don't want to do all the fussy detail carpentry that would be involved. (There are 6 irregularly shaped panels.) A neighbor's similar panels were successfully painted without removing the coated screening, which (along with the splines) is in good shape. All I want is a paint that will cover the areas where the plastic membrane is intact (about 90 percent) and plug the holes on the other 10 percent where the plastic has flaked off, so the result is not a screen at all, but a solid membrane the same color as the house trim. I suspect that latex paint will be viscous enough to bridge all the holes, although it is going to ooze (I can only reach one side at a time.) One thin coat to form the new membrane and one finish coat for a smooth texture (I hope). Thanks to all who responded. Newt ------------------------------------- Aircraft dope is what you are looking for, like they used to paint fabric-covered airplanes with. Not a clue where a civilian would buy it, other than the tiny bottles model airplane guys use. Probably chock full of VOCs and all sorts of stuff that the gummint doesn't want us to play with any more. I suspect the stuff they sell to paint plastic car bumpers with may be worth a try- it is designed to bond to plastic and stay flexible. -- aem sends... probably not, that is just catalyzed enamel like you'd use for the rest of the car, but with a flex additive. Waaaaay too thin to bridge gaps (designed to be sprayed,) and not cheap either. Regular house paint probably has a better chance of working. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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