68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty

=====================


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

....

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

....

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

The real problem is the legislators, who vote for such
programs. Time to remind the legislators in those four
states, they work for us. That will be as effective as when
people call their legislators to vote against the "stimulus"
pork package. About 98% of us said not to pass the pork
bill, and see what good it did for us to all call and write.
Bitter? Yes, I can! Sarcastic? Yes, I can!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Red Green" wrote in message
...
OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the
form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and
repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty

=====================


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New
Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status
of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

....

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run
classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and
Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of
the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove
they are in the
country legally.

....

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people
applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address
for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

David Nebenzahl wrote in
s.com:

On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair
service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-denounce-dri
vers-license-bill-as-amnesty


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico
and Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of
persons trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in
the country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your
attitude flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick
your food? Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow
your lawn and rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of
contractors?



Those now being paid to do nothing (they gets a check) who used to pick
food, clean offices, watch kids, mow lawns, rake yards, provide cheap day
labor for contractors.


You would not believe (as I never did) the extent SSI is scammed until
you have lived in the midst of it as I have first hand. I mean it...you
would not believe it is possible.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800sq ft home
 

On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?


--
Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least
mostly pears.
Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

(with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers)

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:49:48 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote:

On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

Do me a favor.
Check your state from the map.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/fugitives/fuglist.htm
Pick a state. Any state

You don't think we have a problem?

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

In article m,
David Nebenzahl wrote:

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.
Just the ones that jump the queue. The US lets in around 37.5 million
legal immigrants every year with Mexico getting the single largest
group. BTW: This quota is far bigger than any other country in the
world.


Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

The prices will go up, things will get mechanized, or the work
won't get done. That's they way it works.

--
When I split an infinitive, God damn it, I split it so it will stay split.
‹Raymond Chandler

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800sq ft home
 

Red Green wrote:
OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty

=====================


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

I read about a Florida woman working as a practical nurse. She stole
credit cards from two of her clients and used their stolen identities to
get student loans. To further her education in nursing. Why anyone
that stupid still has a pulse is beyond me. She wasn't an immigrant, BTW.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sqft home
 

On Mar 29, 9:16*pm, Red Green wrote:
OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

* * *http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nounce-drivers...

=====================

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore. *

PA must also be bad because all the illegals in DE are driving cars
with PA tags. If you live in DE for a month or two you are required
to register the car in DE but nobody enforces the law. They also have
no insurance.
I know 3 people involved in accidents caused by illegals.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800sq ft home
 

Frank wrote:
On Mar 29, 9:16 pm, Red Green wrote:
OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nounce-drivers...

=====================

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.

PA must also be bad because all the illegals in DE are driving cars
with PA tags. If you live in DE for a month or two you are required
to register the car in DE but nobody enforces the law. They also have
no insurance.
I know 3 people involved in accidents caused by illegals.

Only in the general Philly area because there are lots of votes there
for the blue team so they selectively enforce laws especially those
pertaining to motor vehicle registration and auto insurance.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sqft home
 

On Mar 29, 10:03*pm, Red Green wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote ers.com:





On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair
service.

* * *http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-denounce-dri
* * *vers-license-bill-as-amnesty

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico
and Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of
persons trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in
the country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore. *

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your
attitude flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick
your food? Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow
your lawn and rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of
contractors?

Those now being paid to do nothing (they gets a check) who used to pick
food, clean offices, watch kids, mow lawns, rake yards, provide cheap day
labor for contractors.


Funny, isn't it the libs that want higher wages for entry level
workers? If you got rid of all the illegal aliens, simple economics
says that wages for the jobs they are doing would rise until they were
filled.

But then, libs don't think that way. I was having a discussion post
911 with two guys that owned a restaurant. It was back when Bush was
proposing the temporary guest worker program, so that Mexicans could
come here legally and documented for a period of 2 years to work.
These two guys were telling me one advantage of the slowing US economy
was that they now had English speaking help in their kitchen. So, I
asked them what they thought of Bush's proposed plan. "Why that's
EXPLOITATION!" So, here you have two libs that have been employing
illegals, yet when Bush proposed to have a system where guest workers
could come here legally, that is exploitation. With Bush's plan, the
guest workers being here legally would get higher wages and not be
subject to exploitation, because they couldn't be turned in and
deported.

I can't begin to imagine the mental gymnastics these two morons must
have to go through in their own minds to try to reconcile such bizarre
contradictions. It's part of BDR.




You would not believe (as I never did) the extent SSI is scammed until
you have lived in the midst of it as I have first hand. I mean it...you
would not believe it is possible.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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on 3/30/2009 7:52 AM (ET) Frank wrote the following:
On Mar 29, 9:16 pm, Red Green wrote:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nounce-drivers...

=====================

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.


PA must also be bad because all the illegals in DE are driving cars
with PA tags. If you live in DE for a month or two you are required
to register the car in DE but nobody enforces the law. They also have
no insurance.
I know 3 people involved in accidents caused by illegals.


I know of one that was partially responsible for an accident.
I was in a Sam's Club parking lot with my Nissan Pickup. I went to back
out of the space and I checked behind for any pedestrians or other
vehicles backing out behind me. Saw none, so started backing out,
repeatedly checking left and right for pedestrians or vehicles coming
down the lane and saw none. All of a sudden, my truck stopped with a
loud bang. I checked the mirror and saw nothing. Checked both sides and
saw nothing. I thought I suffered some mechanical failure, like the
engine blew or the tranny fell out. Then, in the mirror I saw a vehicle
pulling away from my rear. My tailgate had hidden the car from view when
I had looked in the mirror. Apparently, we had backed up simultaneously
from opposite sides of the lane and collided. I got out and checked my
truck's rear end. There was only some scratches in the chrome on my step
bumper. I looked at his vehicle, which was an old Maxima. The entire
rear end was caved in. Both taillights were broken, and the entire area
between the taillights was pushed in to where it was about 6" in from
the trunk lid. The car was driven by a hispanic man with a heavy accent.
I asked if he was OK. He said "Yes, OK". I then offered to exchange
information and call the police to file a report. He said it was not
necessary. I said "You have a lot of damage, I have none". He smiled and
said, "It's OK. I fix", and repeatedly said he didn't want to file a
report, so we both left.
I suppose he didn't want any authorities involved, for whatever reason.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sqft home
 

On Mar 29, 9:49*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:





OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

* * *http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nounce-drivers...

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore. *

So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

--
Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least
mostly pears.
Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears: *One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

(with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You forgot to include who will do drywall hanging, carpentry,
plumbing, painting and electrical work, as many of those jobs are bein
done by mexican immigrants too.

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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:16:10 -0500, Red Green
wrote:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty

=====================


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.


Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

It seems so many people hate anyone coming into the US simply
because they want to be here.

Since everyone (yes even the indigenous population) came here
from somewhere else, the only difference between legal and illegal is
a matter and when they came in.

I suspect that all the hate and fear is the result of the real
fear that they might be better than us and we then would become less
somehow. I truly feel sorry for those who fear others so much.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

In article ,
wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.

--
When I split an infinitive, God damn it, I split it so it will stay split.
--Raymond Chandler

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...
On 3/29/2009 5:16 PM Red Green spake thus:

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

Turning the USA into a 3rd World Country isn't the answer. I'll bet you'd
do cartwheels & backflips at the thought of exploiting children to sew your
clothes.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

wrote:

But then, libs don't think that way. I was having a discussion post
911 with two guys that owned a restaurant. It was back when Bush was
proposing the temporary guest worker program, so that Mexicans could
come here legally and documented for a period of 2 years to work.
These two guys were telling me one advantage of the slowing US economy
was that they now had English speaking help in their kitchen. So, I
asked them what they thought of Bush's proposed plan. "Why that's
EXPLOITATION!" So, here you have two libs that have been employing
illegals, yet when Bush proposed to have a system where guest workers
could come here legally, that is exploitation. With Bush's plan, the
guest workers being here legally would get higher wages and not be
subject to exploitation, because they couldn't be turned in and
deported.

I can't begin to imagine the mental gymnastics these two morons must
have to go through in their own minds to try to reconcile such bizarre
contradictions. It's part of BDR.

I remember when the Bush administration put forward that proposal, I thought
it seemed like a good idea and Bush's views on the issue were pragmatic as
were those of John McCain. However many Congressional Republicans were less
enthusiastic, it would be fair to say their oppositon kept the proposal from
coming to pass, apparently they didn't see a middle ground. So while it
might be fun to blame the proverbial "libs" for this as with all other
things, the reality is they weren't the ones who derailed the plan.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...-workers_N.htm

"During a trip to Mexico last month, Bush said he opposes amnesty and
automatic citizenship, but simply "kicking people out of the United States"
is not a "realistic solution." He said, "There's got to be a middle ground,
a reasonable way" to deal with the 12 million illegal immigrants who are
already in the country and working."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112800067.html

"But the president faces an uphill battle in the House and Senate to realize
his vision of reform, which is drawing intense skepticism from many allies
in his own party who believe his approach is not tough enough. In the coming
weeks, the White House must persuade lawmakers to forge several immigration
bills, differing widely in scope, into a single policy.

Bush's call for Congress to enact a temporary-worker program is especially
contentious within the GOP. The president's proposal would allow foreign
workers to enter the country for a fixed period -- most likely three
years -- to fill jobs that go unwanted by Americans, but some Republicans
reject that as too close to amnesty for illegal immigrants. The workers
would be given a "tamperproof" identification card, and would be required to
leave the country once their term in the country expires.

"Listen, there's a lot of opinions on this proposal -- I understand that,"
Bush said. He added that the workers would not be put on a path to
citizenship and that workers who entered the country illegally would have to
pay a penalty before entering the program.

"I oppose amnesty," Bush said.

Will Adams, a spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), said his boss was
not convinced. He called the president "Clintonesque," for advocating
amnesty without actually calling it that. "It's new lipstick on an old pig,"
Adams complained. He said a guest-worker program would reward immigrants who
entered the country illegally."

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sqft home
 

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

Obviously Merricans. Maybe some of them get back to real work; not
like working in them Auto-Mobile plants, makin cars nobody wants to
buy and uses do much gas you can smell them for week afterwards. And
wot happened to them 'lectric cars'? Don't worry the Chinese and
Germans will/are making them anyway.
Or them so called Dee-fence factories making weapons that are used for
'offence'?
Chasing pahantom profits in 'Stock exchanges'? Stock exchanges!!! Huh!
More like 'credit printing' factories.

Mebbee about growing some food; planting some trees? Quote; "Ah yes. I
used to work for Chrysler; made the biggest most wasteful cars in the
world. More unecessary features on em than single man jazz band! And
they only lasted ten years or so afore they was broke or discarded to
be replaced by another monstrosity!"

How come we've built an economy so dependent on imported oil, imported
goods, use so much water (saw a guy other day using fresh drinking
quality treated water to wash down his driveway!), live in cities that
become so polluted, leaving aside the debate, if in fact it is one,
about the effect on the planet of digging stuff up; including coal,
oil, natural gas and then burning it using up the lesser amount of
oxygen cos we are cutting down all the trees.

Ah well nature itself has a wonderful way of teaching us a lesson!

Maybe fewer people in this world awould be a start? We could begin
with the biggest polluters and users of world resources; us!

Think about it anyway!

Gone to plant a few carrots.

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.


That is wishful thinking. Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.


That is wishful thinking. Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sqft home
 

Get the welfare bums to work .



So apparently you're one of those people who would be perfectly happy
kicking all them damn Meskins back to Mexico and barring the border.

Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

--
Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least
mostly pears.
Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears: *One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

(with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800sq ft home
 

On 03/30/09 03:55 pm Kurt Ullman wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.

That is wishful thinking. Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to employ more staff to process the applications
than to try and round up the "illegals" afterward?

And, as long as that inscription remains on the Statue of Liberty,
reject only those who already have a criminal record in their country of
origin. And shut down the US propaganda machine that insists on telling
everyone that this is the best country in the whole world.

Perce

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive, to a vacant lot
in Baltimore.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

They are really losing their edge, if only some of the
voters were dead.

--
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"SteveB" wrote in message
...
So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive,
to a vacant lot
in Baltimore.

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On 03/30/09 09:18 pm metspitzer wrote:

Yeah. That is why my insurance told me they would automatically add
uninsured motorist coverage to my policy at renewal.

Apparently there enough uninsured drivers that makes that necessary,
even though it is the law to carry insurance.

It's rather more difficult for people to enter Australia illegally --
all that water around it, you know -- but Queensland (I don't know about
other states) always had what was in effect uninsured motorist coverage
as part of the driver's license fee. Underage kids steal cars and have
accidents, people forget to renew their insurance and/or registration.
There are plenty of reasons to have uninsured motorist coverage that
have nothing at all to do with immigration.

Perce

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On 03/30/09 08:20 pm SteveB wrote:

So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive, to a vacant lot
in Baltimore.

That's a result of having organizations paying people a commission for
signing people up. Once the registrations were turned in to ACORN, the
organization was obligated to pass them on -- and in many cases with
notations that they probably were phony.

Even if you don't make voting compulsory, make registration compulsory
-- or automatic by some means or other. Problem solved.

Perce

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:56:48 -0400, willshak
wrote:

on 3/30/2009 7:52 AM (ET) Frank wrote the following:
On Mar 29, 9:16 pm, Red Green wrote:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nounce-drivers...

=====================

Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.


PA must also be bad because all the illegals in DE are driving cars
with PA tags. If you live in DE for a month or two you are required
to register the car in DE but nobody enforces the law. They also have
no insurance.
I know 3 people involved in accidents caused by illegals.


I know of one that was partially responsible for an accident.
I was in a Sam's Club parking lot with my Nissan Pickup. I went to back
out of the space and I checked behind for any pedestrians or other
vehicles backing out behind me. Saw none, so started backing out,
repeatedly checking left and right for pedestrians or vehicles coming
down the lane and saw none. All of a sudden, my truck stopped with a
loud bang. I checked the mirror and saw nothing. Checked both sides and
saw nothing. I thought I suffered some mechanical failure, like the
engine blew or the tranny fell out. Then, in the mirror I saw a vehicle
pulling away from my rear. My tailgate had hidden the car from view when
I had looked in the mirror. Apparently, we had backed up simultaneously
from opposite sides of the lane and collided. I got out and checked my
truck's rear end. There was only some scratches in the chrome on my step
bumper. I looked at his vehicle, which was an old Maxima. The entire
rear end was caved in. Both taillights were broken, and the entire area
between the taillights was pushed in to where it was about 6" in from
the trunk lid. The car was driven by a hispanic man with a heavy accent.
I asked if he was OK. He said "Yes, OK". I then offered to exchange
information and call the police to file a report. He said it was not
necessary. I said "You have a lot of damage, I have none". He smiled and
said, "It's OK. I fix", and repeatedly said he didn't want to file a
report, so we both left.
I suppose he didn't want any authorities involved, for whatever reason.

Yeah. That is why my insurance told me they would automatically add
uninsured motorist coverage to my policy at renewal.

Apparently there enough uninsured drivers that makes that necessary,
even though it is the law to carry insurance.

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:05:54 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:16:10 -0500, Red Green
wrote:

OT but these are the people taking taxpayer bucks in the form of gvmt
money and US citizen jobs...including construction and repair service.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ill-as-amnesty

=====================


Maryland is one of only four states - along with Hawaii, New Mexico and
Washington state - that do not check the immigration status of persons
trying to obtain a driver's license.

...

The situation has gotten so bad that businesses run classified ads in
Spanish-language publications in the District, Virginia and Maryland
urging "undocumented Hispanic friends" to take advantage of the
opportunity to get a Maryland ID without having to prove they are in the
country legally.

...

In one case, Maryland motor vehicle officials say, 68 people applying
for licenses and identification cards gave the same address for an
800-square-foot home in Baltimore.


Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

It seems so many people hate anyone coming into the US simply
because they want to be here.

Since everyone (yes even the indigenous population) came here
from somewhere else, the only difference between legal and illegal is
a matter and when they came in.

I suspect that all the hate and fear is the result of the real
fear that they might be better than us and we then would become less
somehow. I truly feel sorry for those who fear others so much.


I am for giving immigrants coming in the front door an easy way.
I am for shooting the ones coming in the back door.

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Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 03/30/09 08:20 pm SteveB wrote:

So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive, to a
vacant lot in Baltimore.

That's a result of having organizations paying people a commission for
signing people up. Once the registrations were turned in to ACORN, the
organization was obligated to pass them on -- and in many cases with
notations that they probably were phony.

Even if you don't make voting compulsory, make registration compulsory
-- or automatic by some means or other. Problem solved.


We used to have a poll tax. Had to pay to register. AND you had to register
in January to be able to vote in November. And you had to own taxable
property to be able to vote on bond issues.

No more.

Sniff.

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In article m,
David Nebenzahl wrote:



Fine; I ain't going to argue morality or politics (though your attitude
flunks on both counts). But tell me this: who's gonna pick your food?
Who's going to clean your offices? Watch your kids? Mow your lawn and
rake your yard? Provide cheap day labor for thousands of contractors?

I picked apples for two seasons in Washington State, back in the day.
Very few Mexicans at that time. I also worked in the farm fields in
Wisconsin when I was a teenager. No Mexicans at that time. I've also
worked as a janitor, scrubbing toilets and other joyful tasks, on
several occasions. I worked as a potwasher in college. I mowed lawns
when I was a teenager. And, I often hitchhiked forty miles to the
nearest big city, to stand on the day labor line. No Mexicans at that
time.

So the answer to your question: When the illegal immigrants are gone,
the jobs will be offered to Americans, and they will do them.

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In article ,
metspitzer wrote:

Yeah. That is why my insurance told me they would automatically add
uninsured motorist coverage to my policy at renewal.

I don't know if this has changed, but in the past many insurance
companies made you prove the person was uninsured. Your original post (or
the original post) indicated it as a hit-skip. That might not qualify
for uninsured since you can't prove they were uninsured.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

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In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:

So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive, to a vacant lot
in Baltimore.

The Dems registered a bunch of people in Cleveland to the City Hall.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

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In article ,
"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

O
Even if you don't make voting compulsory, make registration compulsory
-- or automatic by some means or other. Problem solved.

Or you could just make it illegal to pay commissions.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

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On Mar 30, 3:55*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,





wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

* Let's solve the problem. *Give them an easy way to become
legal. *

*There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.

* *That is wishful thinking. *Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

* *Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Do these buffoons not realize if you had no limits on immigration what
would happen? Why wouldn't George Soros or similar libs with more
money than brains, charter 747's to load up all the people from,
India, Haiti, Sudan, pick a country, and just fly them over here?

You can't compare the US today to where it was 150 years ago. Back
then there was a huge demand for unskilled labor and no govt welfare
or health programs, Anybody could sew a shirt or dig a ditch.
That is not the case today. Who here wants the US population to grow
even faster than it already is? And I take offense at buffoons who
try to characterize those of us that what limits on immigration as
xenophobic racists.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:55:53 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.


That is wishful thinking. Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

Why the line? It the line were just a matter of getting the
records straight, that would be one thing, but it is not a line, it is
a quota. So how can you justify a quota that allows 50,000 from
country A and 1,000 from country B.

When you start looking at country A's vs country B's you tend
to see a pattern. A pattern of hate and fear. If they don't look
like us and if they are poor and if they speak a different language,
we want to limit them, if they are wealthy and look like us and talk
like us, then OK they can come.

For many people that line is longer than their expected life
expectancy.

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:14:58 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 03/30/09 03:55 pm Kurt Ullman wrote:

Let's solve the problem. Give them an easy way to become
legal.

There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.

That is wishful thinking. Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to employ more staff to process the applications
than to try and round up the "illegals" afterward?


Good Point


And, as long as that inscription remains on the Statue of Liberty,

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to
breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these,
the homeless, tempest tossed, to me”

Too bad that the current rules seem to say just the opposit.

reject only those who already have a criminal record in their country of
origin. And shut down the US propaganda machine that insists on telling
everyone that this is the best country in the whole world.

Perce

68 illegals apply for MD license/ID card gave same address-800 sq ft home
 

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:12:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 30, 3:55*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,





wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:14:24 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

* Let's solve the problem. *Give them an easy way to become
legal. *

*There is already a way for them to enter legally. In fact in FY 2005
(the last I could find) over 160,000 people of Mexican origin became
legal residents.

* *That is wishful thinking. *Even today if I were not already a
US citizen, I would be facing a quota coming to the US from Ireland.

* *Pretty much my point. You want to come in legally, then you have to
wait in line. I don't see any particular reason to actively reward those
who jump the queue.

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Do these buffoons not realize if you had no limits on immigration what
would happen? Why wouldn't George Soros or similar libs with more
money than brains, charter 747's to load up all the people from,
India, Haiti, Sudan, pick a country, and just fly them over here?

You can't compare the US today to where it was 150 years ago. Back
then there was a huge demand for unskilled labor and no govt welfare
or health programs, Anybody could sew a shirt or dig a ditch.
That is not the case today. Who here wants the US population to grow
even faster than it already is? And I take offense at buffoons who
try to characterize those of us that what limits on immigration as
xenophobic racists.

I fear you need to study a little history. Try looking up
information on the "Know Nothing Party"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

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In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:55:53 -0400, Kurt Ullman
w
Why the line? It the line were just a matter of getting the
records straight, that would be one thing, but it is not a line, it is
a quota. So how can you justify a quota that allows 50,000 from
country A and 1,000 from country B.
Because if you let everyone in you get all the hooha that we are
seeing now. It needs to be an orderly way of doing things. It is also,
by definition, a political thing as to the quotas.



When you start looking at country A's vs country B's you tend
to see a pattern. A pattern of hate and fear. If they don't look
like us and if they are poor and if they speak a different language,
we want to limit them, if they are wealthy and look like us and talk
like us, then OK they can come.

Guffaw.


For many people that line is longer than their expected life
expectancy.
So that makes it okay to break our laws for their convenience?

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

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In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:14:58 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
n the Statue of Liberty,

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to
breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these,
the homeless, tempest tossed, to me”

Too bad that the current rules seem to say just the opposit.

Look at the history. We are letting more in legally than at any time
in our history. When those words were written the bar to get in was much
higher.



--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown

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In article ,
SteveB wrote:
So what? ACORN registered 814 citizens, some of them alive, to a vacant lot
in Baltimore.



The courts have ruled that homeless people cannot be denied their right to vote.

--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

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On Mar 31, 11:51*am, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:55:53 -0400, Kurt Ullman
w
* *Why the line? *It the line were just a matter of getting the
records straight, that would be one thing, but it is not a line, it is
a quota. *So how can you justify a quota that allows 50,000 from
country A and 1,000 from country B. *
* * *Because if you let everyone in you get all the hooha that we are
seeing now. It needs to be an orderly way of doing things. It is also,
by definition, a political thing as to the quotas.



Or maybe because country A has a population of 25 million and country
B has a population of 2 million. If you have no limits and no
controlled process, then do you want someone chartering 747s and
loading them up in Haiti or India with illiterare, unskilled people
and bringing them here by the millions? The simple fact is there
are hundreds of millions that would hop planes to come here if the
door were wide open.





* *When you start looking at country A's vs country B's you tend
to see a pattern. *A pattern of hate and fear. *If they don't look
like us and if they are poor and if they speak a different language,
we want to limit them, if they are wealthy and look like us and talk
like us, then OK they can come.

* * *Guffaw.

* *For many people that line is longer than their expected life
expectancy. *

* * *So that makes it okay to break our laws for their convenience?

--
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
-Unknown