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how quickly can a furnace raise house temp 20F?
Hey Zoot. Think of it this way: Lets take a 100,000 btu furnace and pull the blower and motor out of it. Now install a bathroom fart fan in its place. Turn it all on. What happens? You get an extremely high temperature with almost no air movement. Now, lets take that same furnace and install a 4 foot wide 4 blade fan with a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000 rpm. Now tell me how much heat you feel on the outlet side of that furnace. Answer: None So, if you have a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000, how hot is the heated surface inside the heater? Real hot? Not very hot because of the blast of air going across it? If you answered real hot, then how can that be with a blast of air going across it? If you answerd not very hot, then were did the heat go? |
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On Jan 27, 8:15*am, Bubba wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:09:24 -0800, "Zootal" wrote: "Bubba" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. *The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. *This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Why would more blower speed lower this temp range? It seems to me that the faster the air, the cooler the air blowing across elements/heat exchanger will be, and the more heat *is getting transferred in. Hey Zoot. Think of it this way: Lets take a 100,000 btu furnace and pull the blower and motor out of it. Now install a bathroom fart fan in its place. Turn it all on. What happens? You get an extremely high temperature with almost no air movement. Now, lets take that same furnace and install a 4 foot wide 4 blade fan with a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000 rpm. Now tell me how much heat you feel on the outlet side of that furnace. Answer: None It all needs to be done within a range. Thats why motors have 3 and 4 blower speeds. Its so you can set the heating blower speed and cooling blower speed to fall within a temperature rise or drop across the heat exchanger or cooling coil. Clear as mud now or are you one of those guys with an EE degree? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Whats an EE degree, is that something you just avoided. Here everyone goes for Bachelors, Masters, and Doctorates. |
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On Jan 27, 8:15*am, Bubba wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:09:24 -0800, "Zootal" wrote: "Bubba" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. *The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. *This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Why would more blower speed lower this temp range? It seems to me that the faster the air, the cooler the air blowing across elements/heat exchanger will be, and the more heat *is getting transferred in. Hey Zoot. Think of it this way: Lets take a 100,000 btu furnace and pull the blower and motor out of it. Now install a bathroom fart fan in its place. Turn it all on. What happens? You get an extremely high temperature with almost no air movement. Now, lets take that same furnace and install a 4 foot wide 4 blade fan with a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000 rpm. Now tell me how much heat you feel on the outlet side of that furnace. Answer: None It all needs to be done within a range. Thats why motors have 3 and 4 blower speeds. Its so you can set the heating blower speed and cooling blower speed to fall within a temperature rise or drop across the heat exchanger or cooling coil. Clear as mud now or are you one of those guys with an EE degree? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Zero, what do you do, offer coupons on your undersized crap. Walmart elect heat !!!! Yea and you sell 95% efficent WH tanks you moron, they dont EXIST, mr Bubbatardcrapolaasbrainsimanimbicileretard, and more |
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On Jan 28, 5:54�pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 27, 8:15�am, Bubba wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:09:24 -0800, "Zootal" wrote: "Bubba" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. �The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. �This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Why would more blower speed lower this temp range? It seems to me that the faster the air, the cooler the air blowing across elements/heat exchanger will be, and the more heat �is getting transferred in. Hey Zoot. Think of it this way: Lets take a 100,000 btu furnace and pull the blower and motor out of it. Now install a bathroom fart fan in its place. Turn it all on. What happens? You get an extremely high temperature with almost no air movement. Now, lets take that same furnace and install a 4 foot wide 4 blade fan with a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000 rpm. Now tell me how much heat you feel on the outlet side of that furnace. Answer: None It all needs to be done within a range. Thats why motors have 3 and 4 blower speeds. Its so you can set the heating blower speed and cooling blower speed to fall within a temperature rise or drop across the heat exchanger or cooling coil. Clear as mud now or are you one of those guys with an EE degree? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Zero, what do you do, offer coupons on your undersized crap. Walmart elect heat !!!! � Yea and you sell 95% efficent WH tanks you moron, they dont EXIST, mr Bubbatardcrapolaasbrainsimanimbicileretard, and more- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley ransley ransley high efficency furnaces are sized to maintain 70 degrees at zero degrees outside, unless the homeowner lives somewhere colder like alaska....... the furnaces are ost efficent sized this way |
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On Jan 28, 5:47*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 28, 5:54 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 27, 8:15 am, Bubba wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:09:24 -0800, "Zootal" wrote: "Bubba" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label.. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Why would more blower speed lower this temp range? It seems to me that the faster the air, the cooler the air blowing across elements/heat exchanger will be, and the more heat is getting transferred in. Hey Zoot. Think of it this way: Lets take a 100,000 btu furnace and pull the blower and motor out of it. Now install a bathroom fart fan in its place. Turn it all on. What happens? You get an extremely high temperature with almost no air movement. Now, lets take that same furnace and install a 4 foot wide 4 blade fan with a 50 hp motor turning at 30,000 rpm. Now tell me how much heat you feel on the outlet side of that furnace. Answer: None It all needs to be done within a range. Thats why motors have 3 and 4 blower speeds. Its so you can set the heating blower speed and cooling blower speed to fall within a temperature rise or drop across the heat exchanger or cooling coil. Clear as mud now or are you one of those guys with an EE degree? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - At Zero, what do you do, offer coupons on your undersized crap. Walmart elect heat !!!! Yea and you sell 95% efficent WH tanks you moron, they dont EXIST, mr Bubbatardcrapolaasbrainsimanimbicileretard, and more- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley ransley ransley high efficency furnaces are sized to maintain 70 degrees at zero degrees outside, unless the homeowner lives somewhere colder like alaska....... the furnaces are ost efficent sized this way- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Of course, I meant Bubbas heat world |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:35:04 -0500, Bubba
wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Only problem, bubba, is he didn't evenask the right question - it wasn't the blower fan motoer that was replaced. It's the cumbustion purge blower, or eductor fan. |
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On Jan 26, 6:35*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:47:15 -0500, KLS wrote: Just had the blower motor replaced on our York furnace this morning. Outside temps were 20F today with some wind. *The new motor was assigned the task of warming the house 45F to 65F. *This took it 7 hours, which seems like a long time. How many degrees per hour is a usual rate of temperature rise for gas forced-air furnace? You do know you have asked a trick question? With the information you have given, it cant be answered. Here let me give you and example or two so you might understand. Where I live, we design furnaces to maintain an indoor temp of 70 at a 0 degree outdoor design temp. What that means is: If my furnace is sized properly and my indoor temperature is 70 and the outdoor temp is 0, then my furnace will run 24/7 until the outdoor temp begins to raise. If the outdoor temp continues to drop to -10 or -20 below 0 then my house will begin to get colder and colder and I will need to add some type of supplemental heat. On the other hand, with that same furnace, if it is 50 degrees outside and 60 degrees in my home and I want to raise it to 70 I would probably take much less than an hour. What you are interested in is if the motor replacement you just got is set properly. It should be set so that you get the proper "temperature rise through your furnace as stated on the furnace equipment label. Usually a temp in the range of 35 - 70 degrees. More blower speed will lower this temp range. Less blower speed will raise this temp range. Bubba Of course it doesnt get to zero where you are at, or does it. |
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