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DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 03:34 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.

My current range does not have this feature.

I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.

Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.

What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?

Ed Pawlowski December 20th 08 04:37 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.

My current range does not have this feature.

I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.

Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.

What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?


Can be done, but you may need a high temperature wire.

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a surface run
with product such as Wiremold that is made for your situation.



[email protected] December 20th 08 04:44 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 10:34�am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.

My current range does not have this feature.

I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.

Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.

What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?


they stopped making them that way because of safety issues.

do you totally lack counter space?

Joe December 20th 08 04:50 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 10:37*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

...



My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.


My current range does not have this feature.


I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.


Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.


What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?


Can be done, but you may need *a high temperature wire.

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a surface run
with product such as Wiremold that is made for your situation.


Second the motion on Wiremold. The product is used everywhere to make
tidy electrical installations, but seldom in homes. For the modest
price, it saves so much aggravation that it should be part of every
DIY skill set. If your box store doesn't have all the trick Wiremold
fittings you want look over the stock at a good distributor store.
They will have extra long Wiremold conduit and other problem solvers.

Joe

DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 05:39 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 11:37*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

...





My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.


My current range does not have this feature.


I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.


Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.


What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?



Can be done, but you may need *a high temperature wire.


Already considered that...and easily obtainable.

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a surface run
with product such as Wiremold that is made for your situation.- Hide quoted text -


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing receptacle?
I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered it. I didn't
think that that would be compliant though.

DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 05:45 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 11:44*am, " wrote:
On Dec 20, 10:34 am, DerbyDad03 wrote:





My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.


My current range does not have this feature.


I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.


Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.


What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?


they stopped making them that way because of safety issues.


What safety issues are you referring to? I would have thought they
were just saving money - raise the price but cut the features.

do you totally lack counter space?-


Totally? No, but it's a small kitchen with *limited* counter space.
The counter next to the range rarely get used so it's a perfect spot
for "long term" use of the slow cooker and bread machine.

John Grabowski December 20th 08 05:49 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.


My current range does not have this feature.


I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.


Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.


What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?



Can be done, but you may need a high temperature wire.


Already considered that...and easily obtainable.

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a surface run
with product such as Wiremold that is made for your situation.- Hide
quoted text -


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing receptacle?
I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered it. I didn't
think that that would be compliant though.



*I doubt that anything you do to this stove will be compliant and you can
kiss whatever warranty that you have goodbye. You could try contacting the
factory to see if there is an accessory kit available.


Wayne Whitney December 20th 08 07:18 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On 2008-12-20, DerbyDad03 wrote:

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a
surface run with product such as Wiremold that is made for your
situation.


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing
receptacle? I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered
it. I didn't think that that would be compliant though.


No, the way you use wiremold is to take an existing outlet (like the
outlet your gas range plugs into) and replace the face plate with a
wiremold extender box that projects past the finish wall. That allows
you to get started on your wiremold run at a power source. Then use
run the raceway on the surface of the wall to your desired outlet
location.

Cheers, Wayne


DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 08:25 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 12:49*pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.


My current range does not have this feature.


I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.


Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.


What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?


Can be done, but you may need a high temperature wire.


*Already considered that...and easily obtainable.

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a surface run
with product such as Wiremold that is made for your situation.- Hide
quoted text -


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing receptacle?
I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered it. I didn't
think that that would be compliant though.

*I doubt that anything you do to this stove will be compliant and you can
kiss whatever warranty that you have goodbye. *You could try contacting the
factory to see if there is an accessory kit available.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Range is well outside the warranty period.

DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 08:32 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 2:18*pm, Wayne Whitney wrote:
On 2008-12-20, DerbyDad03 wrote:

Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a
surface run with product such as Wiremold that is made for your
situation.


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing
receptacle? *I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered
it. I didn't think that that would be compliant though.


No, the way you use wiremold is to take an existing outlet (like the
outlet your gas range plugs into) and replace the face plate with a
wiremold extender box that projects past the finish wall. *That allows
you to get started on your wiremold run at a power source. *Then use
run the raceway on the surface of the wall to your desired outlet
location.

Cheers, Wayne


Thanks! I looked at the Wiremold site and found the parts I would
need.

DerbyDad03 December 20th 08 08:33 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Dec 20, 2:39*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Whitney" wrote in message

...





On 2008-12-20, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Given that a regular receptacle is difficult, look at using a
surface run with product such as Wiremold that is made for your
situation.


Are you suggesting putting an receptacle in a surface mount box and
wiring it with a "extension cord" plugged into an existing
receptacle? *I'm not sure I'd like that look, but I had considered
it. I didn't think that that would be compliant though.


No, the way you use wiremold is to take an existing outlet (like the
outlet your gas range plugs into) and replace the face plate with a
wiremold extender box that projects past the finish wall. *That allows
you to get started on your wiremold run at a power source. *Then use
run the raceway on the surface of the wall to your desired outlet
location.


Cheers, Wayne


Take a look herehttp://www.wiremold.com/diy/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thanks! I looked at the Wiremold site and found the parts I would
need.

Phisherman[_2_] December 22nd 08 12:52 PM

Adding Outlet to Gas Range
 
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:34:20 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

My old gas range had a duplex outlet mounted in the upper frame. There
is no accessible outlet near the range and I used the range outlet for
my slow cooker, bread machine etc. It kept the machines off the main
counter as they spent the long hours needed to do their jobs.

My current range does not have this feature.

I'm pretty sure that I can find room in the upper panel of my range to
mount an outlet, but I'm wondering about the "compliancy" of doing
this. I would tap into the AC wiring where it enters the range and run
the wires up to the panel along side the existing wiring harness.

Before you ask: The wall behind the range contains the ductwork for
the second floor. There is no convenient place to put an outlet. The
only open stud-space is either behind the range or behind the fridge.
The area behind the small counter next the range is full.

What are your thoughts on adding an outlet to the range?



Not good. When it comes time to buy a new range, all you will think
about is that damn electrical outlet. The best solution is to
install a new outlet coneniently located near the range.


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