I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

On Nov 18, 7:32*pm, metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. *Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. *I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. *I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. *I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. *I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. *If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

If you use something like Lightning, you can like to Google calendars
using a .ical format. Then in Lightning you can set reminders almost
any way you want. You can also set repeating appointments (say,
refill every 28 days). You could also scan you doc and put the file
name in as a note or as a location. It's not a direct link but pretty
close to it.

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.


So what will you do if Yahoo goes out of business or decides not to
offer the calendars any more?

Also I really don't care for the idea of putting my personal or other
information "in the cloud".

On Nov 18, 7:32 pm, metspitzer wrote:

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

"Yahoo" is little more than a collection of 'bots overseen by an
idiot. You can bet the house nobody is listening, and if they were
they wouldn't care.
-----

- gpsman

gpsman wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:32 pm, metspitzer wrote:

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

"Yahoo" is little more than a collection of 'bots overseen by an
idiot. You can bet the house nobody is listening, and if they were
they wouldn't care.
-----

Overseen by an idiot? Not any more. Yang is out. But he better not go
outside, the shareholders will skin him.

Microsoft bid $33/share earlier this year, which Yang declined.

Price is now about $11.50/share.

Microsoft will probably buy Yahoo for somewhere around $15.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:24:46 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

gpsman wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:32 pm, metspitzer wrote:

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

"Yahoo" is little more than a collection of 'bots overseen by an
idiot. You can bet the house nobody is listening, and if they were
they wouldn't care.
-----

Overseen by an idiot? Not any more. Yang is out. But he better not go
outside, the shareholders will skin him.

Microsoft bid $33/share earlier this year, which Yang declined.

Price is now about $11.50/share.

Microsoft will probably buy Yahoo for somewhere around $15.

If Jerry Yang is an idiot, then you are a vegetable, probably a
rutabaga (unless there is a dumber vegetable, then you're that one).

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.


The big plus is that you still have your schedule when your PC's hard
drive crashes. I have been using web mail for many years now.

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

No thanks on the online backup. I prefer to keep my data where I can see it.

Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Phisherman wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

The big plus is that you still have your schedule when your PC's hard
drive crashes. I have been using web mail for many years now.

I have been backing up my data for years now. I also have more than one
machine and important data is duplicated on each.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:50:50 -0500, George
wrote:

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

No thanks on the online backup. I prefer to keep my data where I can see it.

Good luck seeing your data when the hard disk crashes, you erase or
overwrite a critical file (if you even have any critical files), or
any one of a number of disasters strikes. No worry, Darwin will sort
it all out. :-)

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:04:25 -0500, George
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.


So what will you do if Yahoo goes out of business or decides not to
offer the calendars any more?

Also I really don't care for the idea of putting my personal or other
information "in the cloud".

But you send all kinds of personal information via email, right?

Top Spin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:50:50 -0500, George
wrote:

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.
If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.
No thanks on the online backup. I prefer to keep my data where I can see it.

Good luck seeing your data when the hard disk crashes, you erase or
overwrite a critical file (if you even have any critical files), or
any one of a number of disasters strikes. No worry, Darwin will sort
it all out. :-)

How did you come to that conclusion from what I wrote? There are plenty
of ways to implement data protection and disaster recovery without using
"carbonite" or similar online services.

Top Spin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.
If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.
I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

You don't need "carbonite" to do what you described. There is nothing
magical or unique about "carbonite".

Top Spin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:04:25 -0500, George
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.


So what will you do if Yahoo goes out of business or decides not to
offer the calendars any more?

Also I really don't care for the idea of putting my personal or other
information "in the cloud".

But you send all kinds of personal information via email, right?

Actually no.

There was a post on the usenet photography list, recently. An online backup
company went into financial problems. The creditors took the storage
equipment, and promised to reformat it, wipe all the data, and sell the
equipment to pay for debts. I expect this to be far more common, and soon.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Top Spin" wrote in message
...

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:47:28 -0500, George
wrote:

Top Spin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:50:50 -0500, George
wrote:

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.
If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.
No thanks on the online backup. I prefer to keep my data where I can see it.

Good luck seeing your data when the hard disk crashes, you erase or
overwrite a critical file (if you even have any critical files), or
any one of a number of disasters strikes. No worry, Darwin will sort
it all out. :-)

How did you come to that conclusion from what I wrote? There are plenty
of ways to implement data protection and disaster recovery without using
"carbonite" or similar online services.

OK, what *is* your backup strategy / procedure?

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:50:12 -0500, George
wrote:

Top Spin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

Square Peg wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.
MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.
No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.
If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.
I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

You don't need "carbonite" to do what you described. There is nothing
magical or unique about "carbonite".

What other backup strategy offers the same combination of protection,
ease of use, and cost?

Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

I work in the IT biz managing mission critical systems and data. That
carries over to my home environment where I have more than one UPS and
more than one backup generator. That online service would save neither
time nor money.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:09:07 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

There was a post on the usenet photography list, recently. An online backup
company went into financial problems. The creditors took the storage
equipment, and promised to reformat it, wipe all the data, and sell the
equipment to pay for debts. I expect this to be far more common, and soon.

Yeah, and you believe that some nut in NY dug up some golden plates
buried by early inhabitants of this continent that came from the
Middle East despite conclusive DNA evidence that early Americans came
across the Bering Strait. This same nut then had a "revelation" that
allowed him to take multiple wives. You believe that God is punishing
black-skinned people because of sins they committed in the
pre-existence before this world was even created and that's why the
Mormon church denied them the right to hold the priesthood until
another convenient "revelation" lifted the priesthood ban but
curiously did not lighten their skin. You believe in marriage vows
that included pledges of submission by the women to their husbands on
penalty of death until recently when they were changed. Was that
another "relevation"? You believe that everyone who was ever born must
be baptized on this earth by proxy and that's why the Church does
genealogy, yet there is no explanation for how you are ever going to
get the names of all of the people for whom there are no records.

So, I plan to put a lot of weight in what you think about anything.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:54:23 -0500, George
wrote:

Top Spin wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:04:25 -0500, George
wrote:

metspitzer wrote:
I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.


So what will you do if Yahoo goes out of business or decides not to
offer the calendars any more?

Also I really don't care for the idea of putting my personal or other
information "in the cloud".

But you send all kinds of personal information via email, right?

Actually no.

Liar.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:50:54 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

I work in the IT biz managing mission critical systems and data. That
carries over to my home environment where I have more than one UPS and
more than one backup generator. That online service would save neither
time nor money.

Are you kidding? You can do multiple UPS and multiple backup
"generators" for $50/year? You are in the wrong business. You should
be selling those systems. What a joke.

All that aside, 99.99% of home users will not install and could not
maintain such a system. You just made my point. Thanks.

Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:50:54 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

I work in the IT biz managing mission critical systems and data. That
carries over to my home environment where I have more than one UPS and
more than one backup generator. That online service would save neither
time nor money.

Are you kidding? You can do multiple UPS and multiple backup
"generators" for $50/year? You are in the wrong business. You should
be selling those systems. What a joke.

All that aside, 99.99% of home users will not install and could not
maintain such a system. You just made my point. Thanks.

The only point is on your head. UPSes and generators are in no way
required for the backup methods I specified, and neither method I
specified costs $50/yr. My UPSes and generators keep my system
*operational* during power outages, and have nothing to do with data
backup.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:50:54 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

I work in the IT biz managing mission critical systems and data. That
carries over to my home environment where I have more than one UPS and
more than one backup generator. That online service would save neither
time nor money.

Gee. I was talking about a toaster receipt.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:59:09 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:50:54 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Top Spin wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:16:53 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Square Peg wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:06 -0500, metspitzer
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:29:20 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


metspitzer wrote:

I have been using Yahoo's calendar for years and I love it. Anything
I need to remember is there permanently. I keep up with doctor's
appointments, flu shots and med refills. I use it for car scheduled
maintenance, and I also use it to log major appliance purchases.

I have asked Yahoo for the following two features more than once, but
it seems to be falling on deaf ears.

Some of my meds of the past were based on a 28 day schedule instead of
30. I can think of a few more things that also use days instead of
months. I wish you could get a reminder for x amount of days instead
of weeks or months.

Another feature I would like to see is the option to attach a scanned
receipt to a day so I would have warrantee information at my
fingertips.

Just thinking out loud. If more people find a need for these
features, more may suggest it to Yahoo.

MS Outlook calendar will handle most schedules, and you aren't dependent
on, nor putting your personal info on someone else's system.

No, but then I am dependent on me to back up the data. A flu shot or
the last time I got a water heater is not exactly CIA kind of stuff.

If you aren't backing up your data, all of your data, then either it
isn't worth anything or you have more serious problems than keeping
track of how old your water heater is.

I use Carbonite (http://www.carbonite.com/). For $50/year, it will
back up all of the data on your PC over the internet to a secure
location. It does it in the background, dynamically. If you
accidentally erase a file, it will restore it in a minute or two, It
keeps multiple versions of files so if you want the version you had
yesterday, you can probably get it. The data is not in your house so
if you get robbed or there is a fire, earthquake, flood, whatever, the
data is safe. It's cheaper, faster, and safer than DVDs or tapes.

There are other online services. You really ought to get one of them.

I'll never trust my data to some online service.

Unless you are one in a million, the online service is far more
reliable that you are.

DVDs don't really have adequate capacity for full backup purposes, and
the few tape media that do have the capacity are way too expensive for
home use.

The two most viable media for home off-site backup are either the
portable 2.5" HDDs, or flash media be it USB drives, SD cards, etc. At
least two "units" of this media in rotation, one on-site to be updated
and one off-site in a safe deposit box gives you pretty secure backup.

One other possibility is using remote mirroring / replication between
two locations, say between friends homes. Locate one of portable HDDs at
each person's house and each replicates their data to their private disk
at the other's house. The same could work with home and vacation house,
home and office, etc.

Gawd (or gag). You would go to all that trouble just to avoid using an
online service that would save you both time and money? Very few
people will actually follow such a regimen meticulously enough to make
it viable and even then it wouldn't provide dynamic backup. Carbonite
backs up new files within minutes of them being created, changed files
within 24 hours, and I can make it backup instantly whenever I want.

I work in the IT biz managing mission critical systems and data. That
carries over to my home environment where I have more than one UPS and
more than one backup generator. That online service would save neither
time nor money.

Are you kidding? You can do multiple UPS and multiple backup
"generators" for $50/year? You are in the wrong business. You should
be selling those systems. What a joke.

All that aside, 99.99% of home users will not install and could not
maintain such a system. You just made my point. Thanks.

The only point is on your head. UPSes and generators are in no way
required for the backup methods I specified, and neither method I
specified costs $50/yr. My UPSes and generators keep my system
*operational* during power outages, and have nothing to do with data
backup.

Well, then you can't follow a thread, so a discussion is impossible.