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Red Green November 6th 08 12:05 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
....the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.

Frank[_13_] November 6th 08 12:08 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


Yes - along with watermelon;)

retired54 November 6th 08 01:15 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"Frank" wrote in message
...
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


Yes - along with watermelon;)


Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog



Ed Pawlowski November 6th 08 02:11 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"retired54" wrote in message

Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog


Impressive on the surface, but that that does not mean he will be a good or
bad President. Lot of people with great book learning still do stupid
things. Let's review this in a year.



retired54 November 6th 08 02:17 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"retired54" wrote in message

Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog


Impressive on the surface, but that that does not mean he will be a good
or bad President. Lot of people with great book learning still do stupid
things. Let's review this in a year.

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Would you talk this way at work or at the grocery store? This is a public
newsgroup.

Olddog




Ed Pawlowski November 6th 08 02:48 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"retired54" wrote in message
Impressive on the surface, but that that does not mean he will be a good
or bad President. Lot of people with great book learning still do stupid
things. Let's review this in a year.

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Would you talk this way at work or at the grocery store? This is a public
newsgroup.

Olddog


But you did not bring up respect, you brought up his resume. There are
uneducated people that do the best they can in life that deserve a lot of
respect. There are well educated twits that deserve none. Neither has
anything to do with racist humor and I agree it does not belong here.



olddog November 6th 08 03:01 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.


Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?

Olddog


SteveB November 6th 08 03:37 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.


Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve



DGDevin November 6th 08 05:45 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
Red Green wrote:

...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


There has been no eagle since March of 2003, it's been a vulture pretending
to be an eagle.



HeyBub[_3_] November 6th 08 11:44 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.


Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't have
to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.



retired54 November 6th 08 12:03 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog



Chuck[_3_] November 6th 08 12:28 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
retired54 wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.
Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?

Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog




How do you order "black" coffee without being offensive?

Frank November 6th 08 12:38 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
On Nov 5, 7:15*pm, "retired54" wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message

...

Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


Yes - along with watermelon;)


Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog


BS, where Biden went to school. Ph.D. from Kucinich's alma mater ;)
Frank

Frank November 6th 08 12:39 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
On Nov 6, 6:28*am, Chuck wrote:
retired54 wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
om...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.
Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.


Steve


So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."


Watermelons are race-neutral.


I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.


Olddog


How do you order "black" coffee without being offensive?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I would remind him of NAACP also ;)

olddog November 6th 08 12:51 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
retired54 wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.
Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?

Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog



How do you order "black" coffee without being offensive?


I usually get sugar in my coffee. But no thanks. I've had enough.

I try to be respectful and hopefully they will return the courtesy. I
understand the resentment on both sides but we grew up with close family
ties to African American families so I lack the same feelings some of you
do. These stereotypes just perpetuate the problems between us. Some of us
will not be able to change but our kids seem to be adjusting well.

Olddog


DerbyDad03 November 6th 08 01:38 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
On Nov 6, 6:44*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.


Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.


Steve


So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't have
to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.


Watermelons may be race-neutral, but "watermelon cracks", when used in
certain contexts - such as Frank's post - are not.

Red Green November 6th 08 02:07 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
"retired54" wrote in news:5zrQk.114432$Mh5.111417
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


Yes - along with watermelon;)


Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog



Lighten up Olddog! Don't take things like this so serious. Every pres
that I can remember has been the butt of ha-ha's that I can remember. I
guess you've contacted every late night talk show over the decades
expressing how insulted you are at their monologue as well as shows such
as SNL.


Red Green
Professional Wanna-Be
PhD, 20-20 Hindsight
Shool of Hard Knocks

DerbyDad03 November 6th 08 02:53 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
On Nov 6, 9:07*am, Red Green wrote:
"retired54" wrote in news:5zrQk.114432$Mh5.111417
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:







"Frank" wrote in message
...
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.


Yes - along with watermelon;)


Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?


http://obamasresume.org/


Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review


I thought not!


Olddog


Lighten up Olddog! Don't take things like this so serious. Every pres
that I can remember has been the butt of ha-ha's that I can remember. I
guess you've contacted every late night talk show over the decades
expressing how insulted you are at their monologue as well as shows such
as SNL.

Red Green
Professional Wanna-Be
PhD, 20-20 Hindsight
Shool of Hard Knocks- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Red:

2 comments:

1 - I'm all for the ha-ha's and jokes about our politicians, but I
think they should directly related to the person - Bush's command of
the English language, Clinton's sexual exploits, Reagan and Bonzo,
etc.

Once we start with the watermelon comments and lawn signs (actually
seen in my area) like "No Apes In 08" we've moved beyond humor to
racism and I don't think that's appropriate.

2 - You started this thread with "...the eagle is out and the chicken
is in?" and most recently posted "Every pres that I can remember has
been the butt of ha-ha's"

I guess I'm missing the "ha-ha" in your OP, and other than the
"watermelon" comment from Frank, I don't see any attempts "ha-ha's" in
this thread. From that perspective, I'm not sure why you would ask
Olddog to "Lighten up."


retired54 November 6th 08 02:53 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"Red Green" wrote in message
...
"retired54" wrote in news:5zrQk.114432$Mh5.111417
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.

Yes - along with watermelon;)


Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog



Lighten up Olddog! Don't take things like this so serious. Every pres
that I can remember has been the butt of ha-ha's that I can remember. I
guess you've contacted every late night talk show over the decades
expressing how insulted you are at their monologue as well as shows such
as SNL.


Red Green
Professional Wanna-Be
PhD, 20-20 Hindsight
Shool of Hard Knocks


Impressive.

You'll note the "white" talk-show hosts steer clear of the racial
stereotypes.

Look I hope you don't mean any harm but this kind of stuff is hurtful and
from what I've seen this group is above this type of gutter humor. But I
could be wrong.

Anyway, I've said enough. I doubt I'll be able to solve all the world's
problems. ;-)

Olddog



Coleah November 6th 08 03:28 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 


-----Original Message-----
From: retired54 ]
Posted At: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:17 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
Subject: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"retired54" wrote in message

Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog


Impressive on the surface, but that that does not mean he will be a

good
or bad President. Lot of people with great book learning still do

stupid
things. Let's review this in a year.

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Would you talk this way at work or at the grocery store? This is a
public
newsgroup.

Olddog
=================================
Then respect other's rights to their own
Freedom of Speech and be offended.

I think Freedom of Speech has been stifled
long enough with all the 'politically correctness'
(put your thoughts and feelings in a box and
only play 'make nice').

I believe more and more people will "unstifle"
themselves to speak their minds in the future....
and to hell with what other people 'think or feel'
about it. Stifle yourself, not other people.





Coleah November 6th 08 03:55 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 


-----Original Message-----
From: retired54 ]
Posted At: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:04 AM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
Subject: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does

not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog

=================================
?????
So let's see, these days black folks refer to "people of color", but it
is supposed to be offensive for now for white people to refer to
'colored people'?????

Political correctness be damned.


Bob F November 6th 08 04:01 PM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

"retired54" wrote in message
...


Impressive.

You'll note the "white" talk-show hosts steer clear of the racial stereotypes.

Look I hope you don't mean any harm but this kind of stuff is hurtful and from
what I've seen this group is above this type of gutter humor. But I could be
wrong.

Anyway, I've said enough. I doubt I'll be able to solve all the world's
problems. ;-)


An occasional expression of common decency never hurts, although it can raise
the ire of those who have none. Thanks for the effort.



olddog November 7th 08 02:21 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:55:03 -0600, "Coleah"
wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: retired54 ]
Posted At: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:04 AM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
Subject: OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:eZudnZDljYwSRY_UnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink. com...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...


IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.

Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does

not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't
have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog

=================================
?????
So let's see, these days black folks refer to "people of color", but it
is supposed to be offensive for now for white people to refer to
'colored people'?????

Political correctness be damned.


Clearly, you have issues that cannot be resolved in a usenet
newsgroup.


ya think?

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/ima...-only-sign.jpg

over out!

Olddog


The Daring Dufas[_5_] November 7th 08 02:32 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
HeyBub wrote:
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.
Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?


Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You don't have
to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.


Funny thing, watermelon immigrated to America from
Southern Africa. Perhaps my darker skinned cousins
love of watermelon is genetic.

TDD

The Daring Dufas[_5_] November 7th 08 03:01 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
olddog wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
retired54 wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
olddog wrote:
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote in message
...

IMHO he deserves our respect. I find the racist humor offensive.
Anyone who treats his brother and aunt in the way Obama does does not
deserve my respect.

Steve

So that makes it okay to demean an entire race of people?

Are you talking about the watermelon crack? My grandpa said "You
don't have to be colored to like watermelon."

Watermelons are race-neutral.

I've heard worse. I know the term "colored" is offensive.

Olddog



How do you order "black" coffee without being offensive?


I usually get sugar in my coffee. But no thanks. I've had enough.

I try to be respectful and hopefully they will return the courtesy. I
understand the resentment on both sides but we grew up with close family
ties to African American families so I lack the same feelings some of
you do. These stereotypes just perpetuate the problems between us. Some
of us will not be able to change but our kids seem to be adjusting well.

Olddog


The funniest thing I ever heard come out of
the mouth of a liberal loony was when she
called my Kenyan friend an African American
African. We just looked at each other, shook
our heads and rolled our eyes. What can you
say to these people who's brains have been
damaged by political correctness.

TDD

Red Green November 7th 08 03:03 AM

OT - Dear Dave, Is it true...
 
"retired54" wrote in
:


"Red Green" wrote in message
...
"retired54" wrote in news:5zrQk.114432$Mh5.111417
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Red Green wrote:
...the eagle is out and the chicken is in?


Just wondering.

Yes - along with watermelon;)

Would you 2 care to compare resumes with the guy you are insulting?

http://obamasresume.org/

Note:
Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
President, Harvard Law Review

I thought not!

Olddog



Lighten up Olddog! Don't take things like this so serious. Every pres
that I can remember has been the butt of ha-ha's that I can remember.
I guess you've contacted every late night talk show over the decades
expressing how insulted you are at their monologue as well as shows
such as SNL.


Red Green
Professional Wanna-Be
PhD, 20-20 Hindsight
Shool of Hard Knocks


Impressive.

You'll note the "white" talk-show hosts steer clear of the racial
stereotypes.

Look I hope you don't mean any harm


None at all. Guess I'm just used to the lightness of MILD racial humor,
on both sides, with the area I currenty live in. A couple of times this
black dog came straying through my yard. Neighbor (black) decided to name
it to razz me. Would tell me, "Hey I saw Cracker up in your yard again
this morning.". Personally I find it a ha-ha. I guess others would go
ballistic and have PETA storm us.


but this kind of stuff is hurtful
and from what I've seen this group is above this type of gutter humor.
But I could be wrong.

Anyway, I've said enough. I doubt I'll be able to solve all the
world's problems. ;-)

Olddog





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