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[email protected] September 7th 08 11:58 AM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:

1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks

Nate Nagel September 7th 08 12:19 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
wrote:
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:

1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks


It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.

nate

[email protected] September 7th 08 01:22 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On Sep 7, 7:19�am, Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote:
Hello,


I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. �I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? �Here are some
ideas:


1) �What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) �How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) �What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) �I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?


Is there a much better idea than these?


Thanks


It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. �I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.

nate- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


buy PVC tank, think used 55 gallon drums.

Art Todesco September 7th 08 01:27 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
wrote:
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:

1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks

If this is corrugated cardboard, they
make a product which is identical except
all out of plastic, trade name Coroplast
..... used for signs, etc.

John Grabowski September 7th 08 01:34 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 

wrote in message
...
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:

1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks



Fiberglass it.


aemeijers September 7th 08 01:58 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
wrote:
On Sep 7, 7:19�am, Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote:
Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. �I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? �Here are some
ideas:
1) �What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) �How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) �What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) �I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?
Is there a much better idea than these?
Thanks

It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. �I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.

nate- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


buy PVC tank, think used 55 gallon drums.

It would help a bunch if OP told us what the heck this thing he built is
supposed to be. My gut impression isn't that it was a water tank, but
rather some sort of sculpture or yard art that he prototyped, and now
wants to avoid recreating in the proper materials.

As another poster said, painting it with fiberglass resin is the only
thing that will give more than a few days of waterproofing, but that
stuff is nasty and expensive. Finding a good tinsmith to recreate it in
copper or something would be the traditional solution.

--
aem sends...

Harry K September 7th 08 02:59 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On Sep 7, 5:27*am, Art Todesco wrote:
wrote:
Hello,


I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. *I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? *Here are some
ideas:


1) *What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) *How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) *What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) *I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?


Is there a much better idea than these?


Thanks


If this is corrugated cardboard, they
make a product which is identical except
all out of plastic, trade name Coroplast
.... used for signs, etc.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And if he waits until after the election there are tons of political
signs made from that or similar stuff.

Harry K

[email protected] September 7th 08 03:27 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On Sep 7, 6:58*am, wrote:
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. *I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? *Here are some
ideas:

1) *What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) *How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) *What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) *I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks


Are you using coragated cardboard? How long does it need to last?
Why does it have to be cardboard or could you use different
materials?

A couple of coats of a spar varnish would provide a waterproof
layer. At one time it was used to make racing shells (rowing boats)
that would last for a race or two and would be very light (fast).

BobK207 September 7th 08 03:40 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On Sep 7, 5:58*am, aemeijers wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 7:19 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote:
Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:
1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?
Is there a much better idea than these?
Thanks
It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.


nate- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


buy * PVC tank, think used 55 gallon drums.


It would help a bunch if OP told us what the heck this thing he built is
supposed to be. My gut impression isn't that it was a water tank, but
rather some sort of sculpture or yard art that he prototyped, and now
wants to avoid recreating in the proper materials.

As another poster said, painting it with fiberglass resin is the only
thing that will give more than a few days of waterproofing, but that
stuff is nasty and expensive. Finding a good tinsmith to recreate it in
copper or something would be the traditional solution.

--
aem sends...


Checkout OP's other posts....is this guy for real or troll?

cheers
Bob

aemeijers September 7th 08 05:41 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
BobK207 wrote:
On Sep 7, 5:58 am, aemeijers wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 7, 7:19 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote:
Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:
1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?
Is there a much better idea than these?
Thanks
It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.
nate- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
buy PVC tank, think used 55 gallon drums.

It would help a bunch if OP told us what the heck this thing he built is
supposed to be. My gut impression isn't that it was a water tank, but
rather some sort of sculpture or yard art that he prototyped, and now
wants to avoid recreating in the proper materials.

As another poster said, painting it with fiberglass resin is the only
thing that will give more than a few days of waterproofing, but that
stuff is nasty and expensive. Finding a good tinsmith to recreate it in
copper or something would be the traditional solution.

--
aem sends...


Checkout OP's other posts....is this guy for real or troll?

cheers
Bob

Nah, just clueless. I think he is trying to make some backyard water
features, of the Arty sort. Back at college, they had a whole field of
art student projects like this. Most were hideous, some were
interesting, but 90% of them showed utter cluelessness about basic
metalworking and fabrication techniques. At the time, I remember
thinking they should run these kids through a semester of vo-ed school
metal shop before they started with the sculpture classes, just so they
could learn the materials and metals. I've known several artists over
the years who worked in metal. All of them could have paid the rent
working in a machine shop if they had to.

--
aem sends....

Uncle Monster[_2_] September 7th 08 05:53 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On Sep 7, 5:58 am, wrote:
Hello,

I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it? Here are some
ideas:

1) What If I painted it with an oil based paint?
2) How about using epoxy glue and covering the entire inside?
3) What about coating the inside with Portland Cement?
4) I could coat the inside with tin foil, then use epoxy on the
joints?

Is there a much better idea than these?

Thanks


Well "tin foil" is very expensive, I would use "aluminum foil"
instead. You may look into getting waxed cardboard like
what is used to ship iced seafood products. There are also
polyethylene coated cardboard containers available. One
thing I have used to waterproof speaker cones which are
essentially a type of cardboard is a polyurethane spray
produced for protecting circuit boards from moisture. You
can get it from an electronic supply house. A company
called Techspray http://www.techspray.com/ makes
several types of coatings including one made from Acrylic
which may be the least expensive.

[8~{} Uncle Monster

Edwin Pawlowski September 7th 08 06:22 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 

"Nate Nagel" wrote in message

It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern to cut
the metal.

nate


Tell that to the guys at Hiroshima Danboru.



Jim Yanik September 7th 08 06:29 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
aemeijers wrote in
:


As another poster said, painting it with fiberglass resin is the only
thing that will give more than a few days of waterproofing, but that
stuff is nasty and expensive.


not really.System Three sells a trial kit for $10PPD,and RAKA sells a
1.5 Qt. kit for $25,last time I checked.

Finding a good tinsmith to recreate it
in copper or something would be the traditional solution.

--
aem sends...


and after glassing it,it will need some sort of UV protection,like paint.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

J. Clarke September 7th 08 08:09 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message

It's not possible to waterproof cardboard. I would buy some thin
sheetmetal (flashing?) and use your cardboard design as a pattern
to
cut the metal.

nate


Tell that to the guys at Hiroshima Danboru.


They make waterproof cardboard, they don't make cardboard waterproof.

(hint--it's a lot easier when you do it while you're making the
cardboard than it is to add it on afterwards)

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



Edwin Pawlowski September 9th 08 03:13 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
Tell that to the guys at Hiroshima Danboru.


They make waterproof cardboard, they don't make cardboard waterproof.

(hint--it's a lot easier when you do it while you're making the
cardboard than it is to add it on afterwards)

--


Afterwards it is either curtain coated or wax dipped, but neither is easily
done by a homeowner. Seafood containers use was dipped.



Jim Yanik September 9th 08 06:38 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
:


"J. Clarke" wrote in message
Tell that to the guys at Hiroshima Danboru.


They make waterproof cardboard, they don't make cardboard waterproof.

(hint--it's a lot easier when you do it while you're making the
cardboard than it is to add it on afterwards)

--


Afterwards it is either curtain coated or wax dipped, but neither is
easily done by a homeowner. Seafood containers use was dipped.




boatbuilding epoxy will soak into cardboard surfaces well,but getting the
edges or corrugations sealed is another matter.
I guess that would be "water-resistant"....

try System Three,West System,or RAKA epoxies.
I use RAKA.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Nicole[_3_] October 19th 13 05:45 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
replying to samadams_2006, Nicole wrote:
samadams_2006 wrote:

Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it?



Try this...
Acrylic Elastomeric Roof Coating

You can get it in clear.

--
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http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...of-329735-.htm
using HomeOwnersHub's Web, RSS and Social Media Interface
to home and garden related groups


willshak October 19th 13 06:28 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
Nicole wrote:
replying to samadams_2006, Nicole wrote:
samadams_2006 wrote:

Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it?



Try this...
Acrylic Elastomeric Roof Coating

You can get it in clear.


Posted from homeowners hub
posted on
September 7, 2008, 6:58 am

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

Nate Nagel October 19th 13 09:56 PM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
On 10/19/2013 12:45 PM, Nicole wrote:
replying to samadams_2006, Nicole wrote:
samadams_2006 wrote:

Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it?



Try this...
Acrylic Elastomeric Roof Coating

You can get it in clear.


I'd transfer it to plastic sheet and use that instead.

My two thoughts are that stuff that cheap shower liners are made of (and
is sometimes used to line commercial kitchens etc.) or else that
corrugated stuff that is used for political advertisement signs.
Corro-something, I think.

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Hot_Text October 21st 13 07:21 AM

Making Cardboard Waterproof?
 
"Nicole" wrote in message
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replying to samadams_2006, Nicole wrote:
samadams_2006 wrote:
Hello,
I have a design made out of cardboard that I will be keeping outside
in the elements. I need it to be able to hold rain water inside it,
so I'm wondering if there is any way to water proof it?

Try this...
Acrylic Elastomeric Roof Coating

You can get it in clear.


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HC® Concrete Sealer Clear Gloss Oil-Based
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