Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

On Sep 6, 3:57*pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. *Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. *Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. *I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. *I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. *I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. *It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. *Any suggestions? *IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

Unless you are planing to watch TV outside, there is no need for
weatherproof connectors. They make twist-on indoor connectors that
work fine if you put them on correctly.

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

I've used twist on connectors. Peel the braid back and spin/twist the
round tubular thingy on under the braid. Then trim the braid. YMMV.

Do your connectors have internal threads? Might just need to turn them
onto the cable.

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

http://www.sjgreatdeals.com/jasav23259.html

These are the twist on type. The braiding actually makes contact with
the metal ring inside the connector.

The connector itself grabs the insulation.

"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing some
sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a cheap
regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't seem to
push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both the Philips
connectors and the generic connectors that came with the cheap tool set.
It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector just won't slide
under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS there another tool
that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

I used to use twist on connectors, but none are approved by any cable
company, as they loosen up and short out to easily. The only approved
connectors are compression type, which is not to be confused with crimping
connectors. All of this has nothing to do with your particular problem,
which is that "quad shield" uses a different connector than dual or triple
shield. The garden variety of screw on connector is probably for dual shield
.. You can probably get it on if you cut one layer of shield off, but then
we'll have to call you Rube

G. Morgan wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?


Are you using the right fittings? It sounds like you may have RG-59 fittings,
which are smaller.


I'm using Philips RG6U quad cable, the spool is marked SDW5225GN/17. On
the cable it is marked "#323600 CATV RG6U 75 OHM 2300MHz" The
connectors are SDW1562GN/17, package is marked "RG6 quad shield
compression connectors." They are smooth, no threads inside to twist
them and draw themselves in.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

I don't know what the other connectors are that I tried, but I had the
same problem with them.

nate

RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing some
sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a cheap
regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't seem to
push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both the Philips
connectors and the generic connectors that came with the cheap tool set.
It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector just won't slide
under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS there another tool
that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

I used to use twist on connectors, but none are approved by any cable
company, as they loosen up and short out to easily. The only approved
connectors are compression type, which is not to be confused with crimping
connectors. All of this has nothing to do with your particular problem,
which is that "quad shield" uses a different connector than dual or triple
shield. The garden variety of screw on connector is probably for dual shield
. You can probably get it on if you cut one layer of shield off, but then
we'll have to call you Rube


Exactly, twist on connectors are what you use if you you don't like
doing an install and forget job the first time. As you noted snap seals
are standard practice for cable companies and they aren't noted for
applying extra effort but they know what it costs to repair bad
connections.

They don't short out but typically develop poor connections. A good
example is where my neighbor works. He has been managing the facilities
of a local company that has a bunch of stores, mini marts and gas
stations. Prior to him they had installed camera and recorder systems.
All the equipment was good stuff except someone cut corners by using the
twist on connectors. Some of the locations had 30 cameras. His staff was
constantly responding to failed camera reports which always turned out
to be a twist on connector that developed a poor connection just through
thermal cycling. He hired a wiring contractor to just go through each
location and replace the twist ons with snap seals. The ironic part is
that the snap seals are less expensive than the twist on connectors. You
can practically tow a car with a snap seal because of how well they grip
the cable.

Along the same lines we had a lot of network issues at a location that
had fiber between the buildings and couldn't figure out what it was.
Suspecting bad terminations we hired someone to come in and they found
that although the connectors looked the same someone had cut corners and
used some "easy to use" type that were held in place by a crimp. So
whenever there were temperature swings the glass moved enough to degrade
the connection. Standard connectors use a tiny drop of epoxy which
prevent that and are actually cheaper.

There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check
and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has
some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the
connectors that came with the installation tool or the ones that I
bought separately (which appear to be exactly the same) have this seal.
Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check and
see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has some
kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the connectors
that came with the installation tool or the ones that I bought separately
(which appear to be exactly the same) have this seal. Did I buy the wrong
connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate


The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you have
crimp type

RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check and
see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has some
kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the connectors
that came with the installation tool or the ones that I bought separately
(which appear to be exactly the same) have this seal. Did I buy the wrong
connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you have
crimp type



actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours, don't
know how quick it turns over there.

nate

I would think that Phillips doesnt actually make the connector. They
just sell what they can buy and repackage cheaply and the supplier may
change from manufacturing lot to lot. So I wouldnt lose any sleep over
whether the picture doesnt match with what you bought.

The important thing is that what you bought is still a compression
connector instead of a crimp on. That blue plastic on the connector
acts as a water tight seal when the connector is actually compressed
onto the cable and it then appears as your link shows it in the
picture of the installed connector.

BTW, I'd look at buy other types of connectors. Thomas and Betts Snap
& Seal connectors are probably the most popular. You can find them
rather cheap on Ebay and will probably fit the tool you bought.

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:38:58 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check and
see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has some
kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the connectors
that came with the installation tool or the ones that I bought separately
(which appear to be exactly the same) have this seal. Did I buy the wrong
connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I gathered
up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to install a cable
outlet in the living room. Before I got started I wanted to make sure
that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing
some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that I will be
running cable outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a
cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both
the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came with the
cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector
just won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you have
crimp type



actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours, don't
know how quick it turns over there.

nate

Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to
check and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks
for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has
some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the
connectors that came with the installation tool or the ones that I
bought separately (which appear to be exactly the same) have this
seal. Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I
gathered up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to
install a cable outlet in the living room. Before I got started I
wanted to make sure that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well,
I can't - I'm missing some sort of trick I guess. I'm using
Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips weatherproof connectors (I bought
those because I suspect that I will be running cable outside
eventually) and the stripper that came with a cheap regular cable
tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't seem to push the
connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried both the Philips
connectors and the generic connectors that came with the cheap tool
set. It's like the little round tubular bit in the connector just
won't slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS
there another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector
on?

thanks

nate

The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you
have crimp type


actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours, don't
know how quick it turns over there.

nate

Is this the tool you bought:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ol+SDW5061O-17

It seems to be the "digital compression tool" they refer to on the
connector description.

George wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to
check and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks
for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf


It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has
some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the
connectors that came with the installation tool or the ones that I
bought separately (which appear to be exactly the same) have this
seal. Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I
gathered up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to
install a cable outlet in the living room. Before I got started I
wanted to make sure that I'd be able to terminate the cable.
Well, I can't - I'm missing some sort of trick I guess. I'm using
Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips weatherproof connectors (I
bought those because I suspect that I will be running cable
outside eventually) and the stripper that came with a cheap
regular cable tool set. I can strip the cables OK but I can't
seem to push the connectors onto the cable at all. I have tried
both the Philips connectors and the generic connectors that came
with the cheap tool set. It's like the little round tubular bit
in the connector just won't slide under the braid in the cable.
Any suggestions? IS there another tool that grips the cable and
can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you
have crimp type


actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours,
don't know how quick it turns over there.

nate

Is this the tool you bought:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ol+SDW5061O-17


It seems to be the "digital compression tool" they refer to on the
connector description.

It is indeed. It only sets the connector though, it doesn't grip the
cable at all.

nate

"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
George wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check
and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the
link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last
post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has
some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the
connectors that came with the installation tool or the ones that I
bought separately (which appear to be exactly the same) have this
seal. Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center
insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping
the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I
gathered up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to
install a cable outlet in the living room. Before I got started I
wanted to make sure that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well,
I can't - I'm missing some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips
RG-6 quad shield, Philips weatherproof connectors (I bought those
because I suspect that I will be running cable outside eventually)
and the stripper that came with a cheap regular cable tool set. I
can strip the cables OK but I can't seem to push the connectors onto
the cable at all. I have tried both the Philips connectors and the
generic connectors that came with the cheap tool set. It's like the
little round tubular bit in the connector just won't slide under the
braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS there another tool that
grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate

The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you
have crimp type


actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours, don't
know how quick it turns over there.

nate

Is this the tool you bought:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ol+SDW5061O-17
It seems to be the "digital compression tool" they refer to on the
connector description.

It is indeed. It only sets the connector though, it doesn't grip the
cable at all.

nate

Once you use the stripping tool and peal back the shielding, you should be
able to slip the fitting down the cable until the core wire is sticking
through the front. Then you insert the fitting with cable attached into the
tool and compress the butt end into the fitting. I'm wondering if your
stripping tool isn't working properly

RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
George wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to check
and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not, thanks for the
link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last
post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors has
some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector. Neither the
connectors that came with the installation tool or the ones that I
bought separately (which appear to be exactly the same) have this
seal. Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center
insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after stripping
the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214

-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I
gathered up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to
install a cable outlet in the living room. Before I got started I
wanted to make sure that I'd be able to terminate the cable. Well,
I can't - I'm missing some sort of trick I guess. I'm using Philips
RG-6 quad shield, Philips weatherproof connectors (I bought those
because I suspect that I will be running cable outside eventually)
and the stripper that came with a cheap regular cable tool set. I
can strip the cables OK but I can't seem to push the connectors onto
the cable at all. I have tried both the Philips connectors and the
generic connectors that came with the cheap tool set. It's like the
little round tubular bit in the connector just won't slide under the
braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS there another tool that
grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate
The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like you
have crimp type

actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought have
the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it out that
the picture of the connector was different than what I have. Maybe
they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all this stuff at
Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal business hours, don't
know how quick it turns over there.

nate
Is this the tool you bought:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ol+SDW5061O-17
It seems to be the "digital compression tool" they refer to on the
connector description.
It is indeed. It only sets the connector though, it doesn't grip the
cable at all.

nate

Once you use the stripping tool and peal back the shielding, you should be
able to slip the fitting down the cable until the core wire is sticking
through the front. Then you insert the fitting with cable attached into the
tool and compress the butt end into the fitting. I'm wondering if your
stripping tool isn't working properly


It appears to be and I unsderstand what you're saying, but the
f-connector won't slide more than 1/8" or so onto the cable. I think I
do need that "flaring tool" that someone else posted but I can't tell
whether HD or Lowe's sell it so I may not be able to get back to this
for a couple weeks unless I find myself with some free time during the
day some day to go to the real supply house.

nate

Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
George wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote:
RBM wrote:
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...
Thank you! that looks like that might help a bit. I'll have to
check and see if I can pick one of those up locally, if not,
thanks for the link.

Additionally, I was just looking at the links I posted in my last
post.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/s...17_pss_aen.pdf


It looks like the pic of the cable with the assembled connectors
has some kind of plastic seal at the back of the connector.
Neither the connectors that came with the installation tool or
the ones that I bought separately (which appear to be exactly the
same) have this seal. Did I buy the wrong connectors?

thanks

nate

dicko wrote:
There is a tool that makes it real easy to slide on the
connectors it
sort of expands the shield and separates it from the center
insulator.
I use one and have no problems. It also helps, if after
stripping the
coax, if there is any braid sticking out, to bend it back over the
outer insulation before putting the connector on.

http://www.techtoolsupply.com/index....ROD&ProdID=214


-dickm

On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:20 -0400, Nate Nagel

wrote:

Hi,

since it's not possible to work outside today (thanks Hanna!) I
gathered up all the cable stuff I'd gathered in preparation to
install a cable outlet in the living room. Before I got
started I wanted to make sure that I'd be able to terminate the
cable. Well, I can't - I'm missing some sort of trick I
guess. I'm using Philips RG-6 quad shield, Philips
weatherproof connectors (I bought those because I suspect that
I will be running cable outside eventually) and the stripper
that came with a cheap regular cable tool set. I can strip the
cables OK but I can't seem to push the connectors onto the
cable at all. I have tried both the Philips connectors and the
generic connectors that came with the cheap tool set. It's
like the little round tubular bit in the connector just won't
slide under the braid in the cable. Any suggestions? IS there
another tool that grips the cable and can force the connector on?

thanks

nate
The connectors in the links are compression type. It sounds like
you have crimp type

actually the connectors in the links and the connectors I bought
have the same part number. I didn't realize until you pointed it
out that the picture of the connector was different than what I
have. Maybe they've improved the design? I dunno. I bought all
this stuff at Lowe's as the real supply house only keeps normal
business hours, don't know how quick it turns over there.

nate
Is this the tool you bought:

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ol+SDW5061O-17
It seems to be the "digital compression tool" they refer to on the
connector description.
It is indeed. It only sets the connector though, it doesn't grip the
cable at all.

nate

Once you use the stripping tool and peal back the shielding, you
should be able to slip the fitting down the cable until the core wire
is sticking through the front. Then you insert the fitting with cable
attached into the tool and compress the butt end into the fitting. I'm
wondering if your stripping tool isn't working properly

It appears to be and I unsderstand what you're saying, but the
f-connector won't slide more than 1/8" or so onto the cable. I think I
do need that "flaring tool" that someone else posted but I can't tell
whether HD or Lowe's sell it so I may not be able to get back to this
for a couple weeks unless I find myself with some free time during the
day some day to go to the real supply house.

nate

All right, I am so frustrated I could just spit...

Ordered a "flaring tool" online as I was unable to find one locally. It
doesn't help at all... I can't get it between the dielectric and the
braid of this cable at all. In fact, when I attempt to force it, it
just pushes the dielectric down into the cable assembly so if I've
stripped, say, 1/4" of the center wire and then another 1/4" off the
jacket, I end up with 1/2" of the center wire sticking out and I still
can't insert the connector. Could someone who has done this before
PLEASE post exact mfgrs. part numbers of a cable, connector,
installation tool, and flaring tool (if required) with which they have
successfully been able to install connectors on the end of an RG-6U quad
shield cable. Where to purchase would also be very helpful. I've been
tripping over this run of cable going up the basement stairs for almost
two years now and I STILL have not found anything that will allow me to
properly cut and terminate cable so that I can run it within the walls.

Thanks...

nate

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Sounds like you're having all kinds of fun...

It might be a little late, but I'd recommend using a full set of
compatible connectors and tools. Having spent time working for a cable
company, I can tell you that the connector quality matters as does
compatibility with the tooling, and some connectors that look the same
do require different tools for proper termination.

I also know nothing of the quality of the "Phillips" coax other than it
is most likely made by someone else. The braid should pull back from the
foil wrapped foam dielectric easily, if it doesn't the cable may be
faulty.

Also remember that coax is RF cable and kinks, tight bends and crush
points have a very significant effect on the RF signal, especially at
the higher frequencies.


From the Lowe's site:

IDEAL 3-Piece Installers Compression Kit ($40)

Item #: 251912 Model: 33-623

Contains compression tool, cable stripper and Data-T® Cutter in hip
pouch

and

IDEAL RG-6 Quad Compression Connector ($30)

Item #: 44578 Model: 89-056

Approved for use by most cable TV and satellite companies
50-pack jar
RF signal containment ensures strong signal
One-piece design for quick installation