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[email protected] August 6th 08 03:48 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing doorsand trim
 
I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?

Edwin Pawlowski August 6th 08 03:59 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing doors and trim
 

wrote in message
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I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?


I'd do it that way. Sure, you may have to do some touchup, but that is
better than masking everything.



The hooligan August 6th 08 04:24 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing...
 
unless the walls have a heavy texture, I'd advise against spraying, BTW,
how are you planning to caulk and putty jambs, casing, and base,
afterward or not at all? Most pros caulk, putty, prime, and paint trim
first. then tape the trim off and roll the walls. the secret to taping
is to let a small amount of wood show and caulk the crack, wiping the
caulk with finger or wet rag, paint walls, then let dry overnight and
pull the tape off. leaves a car stripe fine line, no seepage.


Tony Hwang August 6th 08 04:40 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installingdoors and trim
 
wrote:
I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?

Hi,
Only concern is scratching, nicking, rubbing paint finished wall surface
by accident which needs touch up which will look odd.

Red Green August 6th 08 04:58 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing ...
 
(The hooligan) wrote in
:

unless the walls have a heavy texture, I'd advise against spraying,
BTW, how are you planning to caulk and putty jambs, casing, and base,
afterward or not at all? Most pros caulk, putty, prime, and paint trim
first. then tape the trim off and roll the walls. the secret to taping
is to let a small amount of wood show and caulk the crack, wiping the
caulk with finger or wet rag, paint walls, then let dry overnight and
pull the tape off. leaves a car stripe fine line, no seepage.


Pros tape? I don't tape. No trim paint on walls. No wall paint on trim.
None.


After caulking I do trim. Runs onto wall some. Feather out. Then do
walls. Use 2" Wooster or Purdy angled sash brush. Run bead down about
1/4" away from trim. Then do where wall meets trim line. Steady single
long strokes. Runing the first bead keeps the wall from from sucking all
the paint off the brush for the final corner line.

Feather out all wall paint to prevent boardering. Roll walls.

Secret? If there is one it's try different things. Then do what works
best for you. If it's taping, then so be it.

John Grabowski August 6th 08 11:39 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing doors and trim
 

wrote in message
...
I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?



Works for me. It is easier to paint the trim and doors on a couple of
sawhorses then masking and bending down on the floor. Wait a few days for
the paint to dry fully before installing. You will still need to cover your
nail holes and do some touch up, but since the paint is new matching is not
much of a problem. I like the look of sprayed paint.


Reno August 6th 08 05:32 PM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing doors and trim
 
wrote in news:bf2ab423-604e-47cc-86c3-4d10cebce8e5
@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?


That is a good approach and is what we did in our new house construction.
It is the most common approach on new house construction that I have seen
- don't recall seeing any masked trim now that I think about it.

It will work great as long as you choose a type of paint that will look
good sprayed. The only things we masked were the windows and exterior
doors and that was easy because the trim was not on at the time so taping
accuracy was not an issue.

There are low build and high build paint options. Use only high build,
especially if you want to spray. The high build hides blemishes much
better while the low build will show every little thing and it dries much
quicker so over-spray edges are a real problem. I doubt that a decent job
can be done with spraying low build - it should only be rolled.

I used high build paint in my new house for both primer and top coat.
High build is much better for spraying than low build because it doesn't
mist much. A breathing filter mask is required but not a fume rated mask.
The low build is a bitch for misting and will require covering over all
window surfaces and anything you don't want painted. In my opinion you
couldn't do a decent job with low build. It would even mess up adjacent
finished walls while you were working. In homes low build is only
suitable for rolling - it is great for rolling because it goes on
easier. Needs extra coats though.

Our painter recommended spraying the primer and rolling the top coat. It
was a choice based on the fact that rolled on top coats are the norm
around here. Sprayed and rolled look much different so looks are an
important consideration. He said rolling high build was not an issue and
saved extra coats in some rooms. He saved a lot of trouble by having the
primer tinted at the same time as the top coats for every room.

Our painter and finishing carpenter collaborated on all the trim. The
carpenter cut and fitted all pieces and the painter sprayed them in the
basement or the garage depending on the weather. Then the carpenter did
the final installation and the painter sealed the nail holes.


MrCessna August 6th 08 06:20 PM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installingdoors and trim
 
On Aug 6, 12:32*pm, Reno wrote:
wrote in news:bf2ab423-604e-47cc-86c3-4d10cebce8e5
@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. *I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. *I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.


This seems to go against what I've seen done. *What is the problem
with my approach?


That is a good approach and is what we did in our new house construction.
It is the most common approach on new house construction that I have seen
- don't recall seeing any masked trim now that I think about it.

It will work great as long as you choose a type of paint that will look
good sprayed. The only things we masked were the windows and exterior
doors and that was easy because the trim was not on at the time so taping
accuracy was not an issue.

There are low build and high build paint options. Use only high build,
especially if you want to spray. The high build hides blemishes much
better while the low build will show every little thing and it dries much
quicker so over-spray edges are a real problem. I doubt that a decent job
can be done with spraying low build - it should only be rolled.

I used high build paint in my new house for both primer and top coat.
High build is much better for spraying than low build because it doesn't
mist much. A breathing filter mask is required but not a fume rated mask.
The low build is a bitch for misting and will require covering over all
window surfaces and anything you don't want painted. In my opinion you
couldn't do a decent job with low build. It would even mess up adjacent
finished walls while you were working. In homes low build is only
suitable for rolling - it is great for rolling because it goes on *
easier. Needs extra coats though.

Our painter recommended spraying the primer and rolling the top coat. It
was a choice based on the fact that rolled on top coats are the norm
around here. Sprayed and rolled look much different so looks are an
important consideration. He said rolling high build was not an issue and
saved extra coats in some rooms. He saved a lot of trouble by having the
primer tinted at the same time as the top coats for every room.

Our painter and finishing carpenter collaborated on all the trim. The
carpenter cut and fitted all pieces and the painter sprayed them in the
basement or the garage depending on the weather. Then the carpenter did
the final installation and the painter sealed the nail holes.


Excellent advice! thank you!

cshenk August 6th 08 11:43 PM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installing doors and trim
 
wrote

I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.


This seems to go against what I've seen done. What is the problem
with my approach?


No problem. It's the fast way and it works fine. You'll have to touch up
the woodwork after installing it, but it will look just fine.



RickH August 7th 08 02:52 AM

Finishing a basement and want to paint walls BEFORE installingdoors and trim
 
On Aug 5, 9:48*pm, wrote:
I'm finishing my basement and I've primed all of my walls. *I was
planning on completing the painting of the walls first - then painting
doors and trim and installing them. *I thought this would save time as
I don't have to worry so much about masking everything and I can spray
just about everything.

This seems to go against what I've seen done. *What is the problem
with my approach?


I always stain and seal my trim before installing, its sure a lot
easier than doing it on the walls. If you can do trim work without
gouging the walls then thats the way to go to save a lot of time and
work.

Personally I would NEVER hire a "professional" painter that does not
mask all the woodwork either. If I dont see a perfectly straight cut
in between the wall and the oak trim with NO paint on the wood I have
them do it over with masking tape.



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