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sid May 31st 08 11:05 PM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to controllighting ?
 
If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?

Thanks

John Grabowski May 31st 08 11:25 PM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
...
If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?

Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


mm May 31st 08 11:56 PM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 
On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:25:06 -0400, "John Grabowski"
wrote:


"sid" wrote in message
...
If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?

Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


He wants one which is half GFI and half controlled by a switch. He
probably wants that half to be GFI also. Like a normal receptacle
can be split into two halves.

OP, I think the word "broken" is misleading. You mean split into to,
not "inoperable".

sid May 31st 08 11:56 PM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles tocontrol lighting ?
 
On May 31, 5:25*pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...

If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. *There is a combination device made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?

RBM[_2_] June 1st 08 12:01 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
...
If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?

Thanks


Assuming you want to split the tops from bottoms and have wall switch
control of half of each outlet, no, GFCI outlets are not made that way. If
it's a finished basement, there is no NEC requirement to use GFCI outlets.
You can however use GFCI protection for the entire circuit or circuits, then
split standard duplex outlets and switches



John Grabowski June 1st 08 12:13 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
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On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...

If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?



No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI to
give you what you want. As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not required
in finished basements. The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


sid June 1st 08 12:42 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles tocontrol lighting ?
 
On May 31, 6:13*pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...
On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:

"sid" wrote in message


...


If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). *Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?

No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI to
give you what you want. *As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not required
in finished basements. *The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


I like that option, probably save a lot on all those GFI(s). If I
use a GFI breaker, do I still need to have GFI receptacles in the
unfinished portions of the basement if the circuit is protected by a
GFI breaker ?

RBM[_2_] June 1st 08 12:49 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
...
On May 31, 6:13 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...
On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:

"sid" wrote in message


...


If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device
made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?

No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI
to
give you what you want. As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not required
in finished basements. The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


I like that option, probably save a lot on all those GFI(s). If I
use a GFI breaker, do I still need to have GFI receptacles in the
unfinished portions of the basement if the circuit is protected by a
GFI breaker ?

Nec requires unfinished parts of basements to have at least one GFCI
protected outlet. The method of GFCI protection is your choice



John Grabowski June 1st 08 12:54 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
...
On May 31, 6:13 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...
On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:

"sid" wrote in message


...


If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device
made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?

No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI
to
give you what you want. As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not required
in finished basements. The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


I like that option, probably save a lot on all those GFI(s). If I
use a GFI breaker, do I still need to have GFI receptacles in the
unfinished portions of the basement if the circuit is protected by a
GFI breaker ?



No, but you should label them as being GFI protected. If you haven't
considered this already, it might be a good idea to separate ceiling
lighting from the GFI protected outlet circuit in case the GFI trips.


sid June 1st 08 12:57 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles tocontrol lighting ?
 
On May 31, 6:49*pm, "RBM" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...
On May 31, 6:13 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:





"sid" wrote in message


...
On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:


"sid" wrote in message


....


If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device
made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?


No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI
to
give you what you want. As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not required
in finished basements. The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


I like that option, probably save a lot on all those GFI(s). * If I
use a GFI breaker, do I still need to have GFI receptacles in the
unfinished portions of the basement if the circuit is protected by a
GFI breaker ?

Nec requires unfinished parts of basements to have at least one GFCI
protected outlet. The method of GFCI protection is your choice- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When splitting a receptacle, is there a standard as to which side is
switched; Left or Right for horizontal mounted and top or bottom for
vertically mounted ?

RBM[_2_] June 1st 08 01:05 AM

Basement receptacles GFI ... what about broken receptacles to control lighting ?
 

"sid" wrote in message
...
On May 31, 6:49 pm, "RBM" wrote:
"sid" wrote in message

...
On May 31, 6:13 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:





"sid" wrote in message


...
On May 31, 5:25 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:


"sid" wrote in message


...


If I wire the basement with GFI receptacles, is there anyway that
the
receptacle can be broken so that one half of the duplex could be
used
to control lighting in the room ?


Thanks


I'm not sure what you are asking here. There is a combination device
made
which is half GFI receptacle and half single pole switch.


Typical duplex receptacles can be broken to provide one receptacle
that is hot all the time and anther controlled by a remote switch.
(common practice). Now can I do that with a GFI duplex receptacle ?


No, but you can have a switch and a split receptacle downstream of a GFI
to
give you what you want. As RBM mentioned, GFI receptacles are not
required
in finished basements. The unfinished part must have at least one GFI
receptacle.


I like that option, probably save a lot on all those GFI(s). If I
use a GFI breaker, do I still need to have GFI receptacles in the
unfinished portions of the basement if the circuit is protected by a
GFI breaker ?

Nec requires unfinished parts of basements to have at least one GFCI
protected outlet. The method of GFCI protection is your choice- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When splitting a receptacle, is there a standard as to which side is
switched; Left or Right for horizontal mounted and top or bottom for
vertically mounted ?

Your choice




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