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Jonathan Grobe May 29th 08 06:59 AM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?

The wiring in the service cable is aluminum. What sizes
would be 60 amp and what would be 100 amp?

I have an old size fusebox, with main on the left
side and range on the right side. While right now
there are 4 of the long 60 amp fuses in the fuse box,
am I correct that probably the correct numbers should
be 60 amp in the main and 40 amp in the range for a total
of 100 amps--and that this is probably a 100 amp service?

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[email protected] May 29th 08 11:03 AM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
On May 29, 12:59 am, Jonathan Grobe wrote:
How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?

The wiring in the service cable is aluminum. What sizes
would be 60 amp and what would be 100 amp?

I have an old size fusebox, with main on the left
side and range on the right side. While right now
there are 4 of the long 60 amp fuses in the fuse box,
am I correct that probably the correct numbers should
be 60 amp in the main and 40 amp in the range for a total
of 100 amps--and that this is probably a 100 amp service?

--
Jonathan Grobe Books
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My guess (non professional) is 60A.

RBM[_2_] May 29th 08 11:48 AM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 

"Jonathan Grobe" wrote in message
...
How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?

The wiring in the service cable is aluminum. What sizes
would be 60 amp and what would be 100 amp?

I have an old size fusebox, with main on the left
side and range on the right side. While right now
there are 4 of the long 60 amp fuses in the fuse box,
am I correct that probably the correct numbers should
be 60 amp in the main and 40 amp in the range for a total
of 100 amps--and that this is probably a 100 amp service?

--
Jonathan Grobe Books
Browse our inventory of thousands of used books at:
http://www.grobebooks.com


You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the service size.
If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4. Anything smaller
would be a 60 amp service




Jonathan Grobe May 29th 08 05:12 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:

You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the service size.
If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4. Anything smaller
would be a 60 amp service

What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?

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[email protected] May 29th 08 05:32 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
On May 29, 12:12�pm, Jonathan Grobe wrote:
On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:

You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the service size.
If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4. Anything smaller
would be a 60 amp service


What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?

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theres a chance of a miss match, like a undersized meter socket.......

my bet 60 amps....

might as well upgrade once to 200 amps........

Jonathan Grobe May 29th 08 07:20 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
On 2008-05-29, wrote:

theres a chance of a miss match, like a undersized meter socket.......

How do you tell what size it is?

I have a 200 amp Sangamo meter. Would that still fit if it
were an undersized meter socket?

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DerbyDad03 May 29th 08 07:31 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
On May 29, 1:59*am, Jonathan Grobe wrote:
How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?

The wiring in the service cable is aluminum. What sizes
would be 60 amp and what would be 100 amp?

I have an old size fusebox, with main on the left
side and range on the right side. While right now
there are 4 of the long 60 amp fuses in the fuse box,
am I correct that probably the correct numbers should
be 60 amp in the main and 40 amp in the range for a total
of 100 amps--and that this is probably a 100 amp service?

--
Jonathan Grobe Books *
Browse our inventory of thousands of used books at:http://www.grobebooks.com


I'm not too familiar with fuse boxes, but in a typical breaker box,
the main breaker is sized to match the size of the service. If my main
breaker (the one at the top of the box that would kill the entire
house if thrown) is labeled as 150A, then I have a 150A service.

I don't think you'd have a service wire size that was rated higher by
any great extent than the main breaker (or fuse in your case) and
you'd better not have a service wire size that was rated lower.

Do fuse boxes not have a "main fuse" for the entire system?

Bud-- May 29th 08 07:55 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
Jonathan Grobe wrote:
On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:


You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the service size.
If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4. Anything smaller
would be a 60 amp service


What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?


#2 wire is about 0.097" diameter.

Sounds like a "main and range" panel with both "main" and "range" being
service disconnects (the range circuit will still be hot if you pull out
the "main" fuses). I believe these all had a rating of 100A. You can
use 60A fuses in both the "main" and "range" (but you may want to limit
the range to 40). (If a calculation of the proper size of the service
for the house is 100A the fuses can all be 60A.)

--
bud--

Jonathan Grobe May 29th 08 08:31 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
Do electric companies always know what service you have?

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RBM[_2_] May 29th 08 09:19 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 

"Jonathan Grobe" wrote in message
...
Do electric companies always know what service you have?

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No, they don't. They only know how much you use. They may have a record of
the size meter you have, but any newer installation would use a 4 or 5 jaw
meter good for 200 amps. I don't know, offhand the circular mils of a #2
aluminum conductor, but even if you had that info, it probably won't help.
The cable should have the numbers written on it's sheath. It would say
something like 2-2-4 al



RBM[_2_] May 29th 08 09:29 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On May 29, 1:59 am, Jonathan Grobe wrote:
How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?

The wiring in the service cable is aluminum. What sizes
would be 60 amp and what would be 100 amp?

I have an old size fusebox, with main on the left
side and range on the right side. While right now
there are 4 of the long 60 amp fuses in the fuse box,
am I correct that probably the correct numbers should
be 60 amp in the main and 40 amp in the range for a total
of 100 amps--and that this is probably a 100 amp service?

--
Jonathan Grobe Books
Browse our inventory of thousands of used books
at:http://www.grobebooks.com


I'm not too familiar with fuse boxes, but in a typical breaker box,
the main breaker is sized to match the size of the service. If my main
breaker (the one at the top of the box that would kill the entire
house if thrown) is labeled as 150A, then I have a 150A service.

I don't think you'd have a service wire size that was rated higher by
any great extent than the main breaker (or fuse in your case) and
you'd better not have a service wire size that was rated lower.

Do fuse boxes not have a "main fuse" for the entire system?

His particular fuse box has two main disconnects, and it was common for
split buss breaker panels to have up to six main disconnects. The common
misconception is that the total amperage of the main disconnects cannot
exceed the rating of the service entrance cables. Theoretically you can have
a 200 amp service with six 100 amp main disconnects.



dpb May 29th 08 10:15 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
Jonathan Grobe wrote:
On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:
You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the service size.
If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4. Anything smaller
would be a 60 amp service

What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?


#2 is #2, whether it's Al or Cu -- it's the wire gauge and the gauge is
independent of material. Only the conductivity of Cu is better than Al
so can use smaller gauge wire compared to Cu for the same ampacity.

That said, #2 is roughly 0.25" diameter. See following link for table
of AWG dimensions.

http://www.rbeelectronics.com/wtable.htm

--





CJT May 29th 08 10:42 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
bud-- wrote:
Jonathan Grobe wrote:

On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:



You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the
service size. If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4.
Anything smaller would be a 60 amp service



What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?


#2 wire is about 0.097" diameter.


Huh?

Sounds like a "main and range" panel with both "main" and "range" being
service disconnects (the range circuit will still be hot if you pull out
the "main" fuses). I believe these all had a rating of 100A. You can
use 60A fuses in both the "main" and "range" (but you may want to limit
the range to 40). (If a calculation of the proper size of the service
for the house is 100A the fuses can all be 60A.)


You'd better at least consider the size of the wire downstream of the
breaker before making such claims.


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Bud-- May 30th 08 09:37 PM

How do you tell if you have 60 amp or 100 amp service?
 
bud-- wrote:
Jonathan Grobe wrote:
On 2008-05-29, RBM wrote:


You are correct. The service entrance cable will determine the
service size. If it is aluminum, it should be #2, if it's copper #4.
Anything smaller would be a 60 amp service


What is the diameter of #2 aluminum?


#2 wire is about 0.097" diameter.



Oops, read the wrong column. #2 wire (conductor - stranded) is about
0.292" diameter. This is reasonable compared to dpb's value of "roughly
0.25" which may be solid wire.

--
bud--


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