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FLSTCI February 3rd 08 12:20 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??

Specifically, does your system heat the same??
That is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??

Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??

Thanks!

RBM[_2_] February 3rd 08 12:49 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
If you have areas of your system subject to freezing, you should have it
installed. There's nothing uglier that frozen broken pipes in the winter,
especially if no one is home at the time.




"FLSTCI" wrote in message
...
My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??

Specifically, does your system heat the same??
That is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??

Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??

Thanks!




jim February 3rd 08 01:55 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Feb 3, 7:49*am, "Joseph Meehan" wrote:
* * Keep in mind I don't know a lot about hot water or steam heat.

* * You say you have a boiler. *Could that really be a water heater? *Boiler
would infer (in my limited knowledge) a steam heating system. *If so then I
would guess you would have a special antifreeze different from the
automotive anti-freezes I know.

* * If it has the same qualities as automotive anti-freeze, I believe it
would increase the boiling point and therefore the temperature of the steam.
That could cause problems and/or increase the effective capacity of the
distribution system. *It would also mean for either hot water or steam
systems the efficiency would increase somewhat as it improves heat transfer
and it helps reduce corrosion.

--
Joseph Meehan

*Dia 's Muire duit

"FLSTCI" wrote in message

...



My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds *like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??


Specifically, does your system heat the same??
That *is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??


Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??


Thanks!- Hide quoted text -


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And if it ever hits the flame via a leak it will burn if it is Ethyl
Glycol based such as car antifreeze suggest you insulate the pipes or
find a new plumber. If electric unit fine not gas

RBM[_2_] February 3rd 08 02:20 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 

"jim" wrote in message
...
On Feb 3, 7:49 am, "Joseph Meehan" wrote:
Keep in mind I don't know a lot about hot water or steam heat.

You say you have a boiler. Could that really be a water heater? Boiler
would infer (in my limited knowledge) a steam heating system. If so then I
would guess you would have a special antifreeze different from the
automotive anti-freezes I know.

If it has the same qualities as automotive anti-freeze, I believe it
would increase the boiling point and therefore the temperature of the
steam.
That could cause problems and/or increase the effective capacity of the
distribution system. It would also mean for either hot water or steam
systems the efficiency would increase somewhat as it improves heat
transfer
and it helps reduce corrosion.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

"FLSTCI" wrote in message

...



My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??


Specifically, does your system heat the same??
That is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??


Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??


Thanks!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


And if it ever hits the flame via a leak it will burn if it is Ethyl
Glycol based such as car antifreeze suggest you insulate the pipes or
find a new plumber. If electric unit fine not gas

It's antifreeze made specifically for hydronic boilers



marson February 3rd 08 02:31 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Feb 3, 6:20 am, FLSTCI wrote:
My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??

Specifically, does your system heat the same??
That is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??

Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??

Thanks!


The bad news is that using glycol in your boiler reduces the
efficiency by 15%. Also, if your system is kept up to pressure by
your household water supply, you have to have a special backflow
preventer called a RPZ valve (this is true in my town--check with your
local plumbing inspector) which has to be inspected annually by a
qualified person. Otherwise you will have to have a closed system
which will have to be brought up to pressure periodically. I
personally wouldn't do it unless I had some area prone to freezing
(like a garage or a sidewalk) or I left my house unattended frequently
during the winter.

ransley February 3rd 08 03:47 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Feb 3, 6:20*am, FLSTCI wrote:
My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds *like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??

Specifically, does your system heat the same?? *
That *is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??

Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??

Thanks!


Water is more efficent than car antifreeze at transfering heat, it
will lower boiler efficency, If you put 100% antifreeze in your car
the interior heater core wont warm you as well, in the summer the
motor will run alot hotter. Why should your pipes freeze.

Joe February 3rd 08 08:44 PM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Feb 3, 6:20*am, FLSTCI wrote:
My oil company has suggested putting anti-freeze in my boiler to avoid
the possibility of freeze-ups.
It sounds *like a good idea, but I was wondering if anyone has ever
done it and how did it work??

Specifically, does your system heat the same?? *
That *is, does your home get warm as fast, and do you use the same
amount of oil/gas/whatever with anti-freeze as with water??

Anyone have any real life direct actual experience with this??

Thanks!


In the automotive field ethylene glycol has the reputation of leaking
through places where water won't. Given a perfectly sealed system, it
might not be important, but could be inadvisable in older equipment.
HTH

Joe

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com February 6th 08 03:26 AM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:31:28 -0800 (PST), marson
wrote:

On Feb 3, 6:20 am, FLSTCI wrote:


The bad news is that using glycol in your boiler reduces the
efficiency by 15%.


I sure would like to see some documentation on that!

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marson February 7th 08 02:55 AM

Anti-Freeze in Boiler??
 
On Feb 5, 9:26 pm, wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:31:28 -0800 (PST), marson

wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:20 am, FLSTCI wrote:
The bad news is that using glycol in your boiler reduces the
efficiency by 15%.


I sure would like to see some documentation on that!

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Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
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