I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed suicide.
Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They say
possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

I have been a KitchenAid owner for 36
years. I have replaced many over
the years. The newer ones definitely
have a much shorter life. I have babied
several units by fixing them myself to
extend their life. The last one
only lasted about 5 or 6 years. The
replacement parts would have cost about
1/2 of the street price of a new one.
Plus KA offered me a $100 "coupon" if
I stayed with KA. So we again went with
KA. We are planning on building
a new home and will definitely NOT
consider KA for the dishwasher.
Now, off my soapbox:

Mine did the same thing about a month
ago. But it did it only once. The panel
indicated that it was "heating water"
however, it got cool. You sound like a good
DIYer so, did you check for power on the
element while it was washing and washing?
You can then trace back from there. Do
you have a schematic? BTW, I think $1000
is way too high for any dishwasher ....
unless it included installation, of
course. I just
googled KA dishwashers and found, on a
very quick look, prices from $600 to $1200,
ouch! I don't know what made one unit
over $1K and others so much cheaper, but,
I don't think anything is worth that
much unless it comes with a maid to load
and unload
the unit!

Red Green wrote:
I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed suicide.
Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They say
possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

Art Todesco wrote in
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I have been a KitchenAid owner for 36
years. I have replaced many over
the years. The newer ones definitely
have a much shorter life. I have babied
several units by fixing them myself to
extend their life. The last one
only lasted about 5 or 6 years. The
replacement parts would have cost about
1/2 of the street price of a new one.
Plus KA offered me a $100 "coupon" if
I stayed with KA. So we again went with
KA. We are planning on building
a new home and will definitely NOT
consider KA for the dishwasher.
Now, off my soapbox:

Mine did the same thing about a month
ago. But it did it only once.

During my repair research I was told if the cycle is interupted that a
long cycle time can result afterwards. A couple of uninterupted cycles
should reset it.

The panel
indicated that it was "heating water"
however, it got cool. You sound like a good
DIYer so, did you check for power on the
element while it was washing and washing?
You can then trace back from there. Do
you have a schematic?

No. Full detailed exploded parts diagrams on RepairClinic.com are the
extent of documents.

It doesn't appear to be running a long wash, rinse, etc. It's more too
many cycles of wash and/or rinse.

BTW, I think $1000
is way too high for any dishwasher ....

Way too high? I'd call it insane. It was inherited with the house.

unless it included installation, of
course. I just
googled KA dishwashers and found, on a
very quick look, prices from $600 to $1200,
ouch!

My thought were more mutha f*.

I don't know what made one unit
over $1K and others so much cheaper, but,
I don't think anything is worth that
much unless it comes with a maid to load
and unload
the unit!

All stainless tub has to be a big contributor. Didn't say justified
reason.



Red Green wrote:
I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed
suicide. Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They
say possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

"Red Green" wrote in message
...
I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed suicide.
Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They say
possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

Is the water going in hot? It should be hooked up to the hot supply pipe. If you
haven't already, try running the hot water at the associated sink until it is
full temp, then start the dishwasher. Does that make a difference?


Bob

Bob F wrote:
"Red Green" wrote in message
...
I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed suicide.
Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They say
possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

Is the water going in hot? It should be hooked up to the hot supply pipe. If you
haven't already, try running the hot water at the associated sink until it is
full temp, then start the dishwasher. Does that make a difference?


Bob


Good point. The old KA units used to
purge at the beginning of the cycle .... I
think it was for something like 1 minute
.... and then the drain would close and the
tub would fill. But now, they just
depend on pumping in extra amps to heat the
cooler water .... pretty stupid.
Another reason I don't like KA any more.
Must
be a Whirlpool thing.

"Bob F" wrote in
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"Red Green" wrote in message
...
I looked for an appliance repair NG. The only one I found is pretty
inactive.

We have a Kitchen Aid KUDS01FL SS0 dishwasher. About 6 yrs old with
original cost of 1k-1200. It had two problems and now has one. Wasn't
cleaning. Took apart and found the chopper assembly committed
suicide. Replace that and it cleans OK.

Second issue is it runs too long. Book says 96 min on normal. It runs
2.5-3hrs. Have done research and dialog with RepairClinic.com. They
say possibilities a
Heating element kit with electronic control" $59.75.
(goofy-if you get just the control board it's $85! Go figure)
High-limit tub thermostat $13.25
Thermistor $47.20

The board I can't really test.
The heating element is getting hot but not sure if enough.
Thermostat & thermistor I don't know if I can test.

I can get the whole wad delivered for $130 but does anyone have any
pointers on testing?

Thanks,
Red...

Is the water going in hot? It should be hooked up to the hot supply
pipe. If you haven't already, try running the hot water at the
associated sink until it is full temp, then start the dishwasher. Does
that make a difference?


Bob



Yea, tried that too. Thanks, really. Sometimes the obvious isn't so
obvious.