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Soldering eyeglass Frames
I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold
solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos] |
Soldering eyeglass Frames
wrote in message ... I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? Yes, buy a new pair of glasses. Will it hold? We can't tell you that not knowing what the material is that you are soldering. It may be brass, titanium, zinc, or something else. If they are junk now, you have nothing to lose so give it a try. Worse case scenario is you get a new pair. |
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... I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? You could try a little JB Weld. It might look awful, but it might also work. |
Soldering eyeglass Frames
Lead and Tin will not work. I learned how to repair eyeglass frames from my
Dad working in his office. He was an "old school" Optometrist. Back in the day when Jewelry stores had Optometrists. His office was one of the few places that repaired broken frames. It requires gold solder and an acetylene jewelers torch. Quick and easy if you have the tools. It will discolor the finish some. If you attempt any other method, it will not work for long and they will be rendered un-repairable. See if you can find a good Jewelers. john wrote in message ... I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos] |
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Any tips?
Cannibalize dollar store readers for a replacement temple piece. You can braze with propane or MAPP and air. A soldered butt joint won't typically hold, but it may work if you splint with a bit of steel or stainless wire there (any old guitar strings around?). You can gammon with fine Nichrome wire sold for ignitors on eBay. |
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How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of
solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? wrote in message ... I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos] |
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I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? You drill holes on both sides of the break, and "sew" it with fine wire. I suppose strong thread would work too. Then epoxy over it, using heat so it solidifies fast. Or if you still want to solder, drill the holes, wire it together, and then solder the wire and frame together. The wire holds it together, the solder just adds a level of firmness. Michael |
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"Anthony Matonak" wrote in message ... mc wrote: How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? For the cost of hiring a jeweler to fix the frames, it's quite likely he could buy a new set of glasses. Anthony Have you priced prescription glasses recently? I wear a progressive lens with anti-glare coating and darkening lenses. Typical price is about $400. $500 at one place I checked. Actual cost is probably $20 in material. |
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In article ,
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Anthony Matonak" wrote in message ... mc wrote: How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? For the cost of hiring a jeweler to fix the frames, it's quite likely he could buy a new set of glasses. Anthony Have you priced prescription glasses recently? I wear a progressive lens with anti-glare coating and darkening lenses. Typical price is about $400. $500 at one place I checked. Actual cost is probably $20 in material. True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. |
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Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article , "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Anthony Matonak" wrote in message ... mc wrote: How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? For the cost of hiring a jeweler to fix the frames, it's quite likely he could buy a new set of glasses. Anthony Have you priced prescription glasses recently? I wear a progressive lens with anti-glare coating and darkening lenses. Typical price is about $400. $500 at one place I checked. Actual cost is probably $20 in material. True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. |
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On Jan 19, 9:21 pm, wrote:
I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? I have successfully soldered many pair of frames using regular or lead free solder. You can test to see if the solder sticks first. Rough the area up a bit with sandpaper or a file or a Dremel with a small wheel. You can buy stainless solder at the hardware store for about $5 that has more aggressive flux. The lead free solder will be stronger and take more heat to flow. I got tired of replacing those pads on the temple of my running glasses so I broke off the arms and ground off the burrs. Then I soldered a center piece on from another pair that had solid plastic inserts. They work great. You can buff the area afterwards with a Dremel and a small wire wheel to remove much of the discoloration. |
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They were sold to my under Hillary's health care plan. I see the world
differently now! "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... What's a good right wing Republican like you doing with Progressive glasses? That's just another word for liberal, you know. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message t... Have you priced prescription glasses recently? I wear a progressive lens with anti-glare coating and darkening lenses. Typical price is about $400. $500 at one place I checked. Actual cost is probably $20 in material. |
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Try www.framesdirect.com. (I got my Flexons from them, then had Costco grind
and install the lenses.) If the frame is still manufactured, they'll probably be able to find it for you, or a frame that has the same lens shape. Another possibility is to contact the frame's manufacturer. They might be able to supply an exact-replacement temple (or a compatible one). |
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Pete C. wrote:
Shawn Hirn wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio |
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"Marsha" wrote in message ...
Pete C. wrote: Shawn Hirn wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio There are too many factors to be able to argue the point. For instance, if the lens is small, and it's a bifocal prescription, trimming it might remove too much of one of the focal "zones". It all depends.... |
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Anthony Matonak wrote:
mc wrote: How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? For the cost of hiring a jeweler to fix the frames, it's quite likely he could buy a new set of glasses. Not sure where the OP is, but I'd hit one of the flea markets that cater to blacks. All of them have a row a Korean selling gold and most of them will do jewelry repairs on the cheap. Cheaper than investing in a torch and high strength solder (or learning to braze). Jeff Anthony |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:17:52 -0800 (PST), Al Bundy
wrote: On Jan 19, 9:21 pm, wrote: I can reasonably solder electronics although I get an occasional cold solder joint. I have this pair of glasses I didn't wear much which cracked near the temple joint. (The temple cracked). The repair shops ask too much, compared to what I paid for the glasses. I tried online to find temples, to no luck. So I'm considering soldering it. My uncle (a retired EE) told me it would never hold. Part of the problem is it cracked very near the screw joint. and so would suffer a lot more torque than if it was further back. Any tips? I have successfully soldered many pair of frames using regular or lead free solder. You can test to see if the solder sticks first. Rough the area up a bit with sandpaper or a file or a Dremel with a small wheel. You can buy stainless solder at the hardware store for about $5 that has more aggressive flux. The lead free solder will be stronger and take more heat to flow. I got tired of replacing those pads on the temple of my running glasses so I broke off the arms and ground off the burrs. Then I soldered a center piece on from another pair that had solid plastic inserts. They work great. You can buff the area afterwards with a Dremel and a small wire wheel to remove much of the discoloration. I have a pair of glasses for the computer that I periodically re-solder. I couldn't get a successful join until I took an onld barss track connector from an HO railroad set, and made it into a sleeve, and soldered the ends into that. The same could be done with a half inch of small brass hobby tubing. Looks like crap, but you can't see me through my screen (yet). |
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Shawn Hirn wrote:
In article , "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Anthony Matonak" wrote in message ... mc wrote: How about taking it to a jeweler who can use a harder, stronger kind of solder and is familiar with metals other than the ones we ordinarily work with? For the cost of hiring a jeweler to fix the frames, it's quite likely he could buy a new set of glasses. Anthony Have you priced prescription glasses recently? I wear a progressive lens with anti-glare coating and darkening lenses. Typical price is about $400. $500 at one place I checked. Actual cost is probably $20 in material. True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. Been there, Tried that. Lotsa luck finding new frames where the lens holes are the same shape and size. Now that Stylists design frames instead of Engineers, and they change them pretty much constantly, the chances of a plug-in replacement are slim at best. Unless you can find a local lab that is willing to whittle the old lenses to fit (which would probably cost more than new lenses), this is probably not a plausible solution. aem sends... |
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Richard J Kinch wrote in
: Any tips? Cannibalize dollar store readers for a replacement temple piece. You can braze with propane or MAPP and air. A soldered butt joint won't typically hold, but it may work if you splint with a bit of steel or stainless wire there (any old guitar strings around?). You can gammon with fine Nichrome wire sold for ignitors on eBay. This fellow uses silver solder to repair glasses. Not to be a shill for him, but we used him for DH's glasses, and he did a fine job. http://www.adamsfashionoptical.com/Services/repair.htm J. |
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"Marsha" wrote in message ... Pete C. wrote: Shawn Hirn wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio Marsha, That's a horrible story but probably very typical. I've always suspected that most glasses purchases are a rip-off. I can't see more than a few dollars worth of materials and labor in a pair of frames. Fortunately, I need only reading glasses and have never paid more than 3 pairs for $19.95! Other family members need prescription lenses and get screwed on price all the time. Ivan Vegvary |
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"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
news:A5Pkj.2340$YH6.337@trndny03... "Marsha" wrote in message ... Pete C. wrote: Shawn Hirn wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio Marsha, That's a horrible story but probably very typical. I've always suspected that most glasses purchases are a rip-off. I can't see more than a few dollars worth of materials and labor in a pair of frames. Fortunately, I need only reading glasses and have never paid more than 3 pairs for $19.95! Other family members need prescription lenses and get screwed on price all the time. Ivan Vegvary What business are you in? How do you make a living? |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
"Marsha" wrote in message ... Pete C. wrote: Shawn Hirn wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. They keep changing frame shapes to prevent that (more profits). The lenses may be perfectly fine, but it's very likely you won't find new frames of the same size and shape if it's more than a year or two old. When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio Marsha, That's a horrible story but probably very typical. I've always suspected that most glasses purchases are a rip-off. I can't see more than a few dollars worth of materials and labor in a pair of frames. The How it's Made series that runs on the Discovery Channel had an episode showing the manufacture of eyeglass frames, as well as an episode showing the lens manufacture. There is a bit more involved than you probably think, and on the lens side there is some very expensive specialized equipment involved. Fortunately, I need only reading glasses and have never paid more than 3 pairs for $19.95! Other family members need prescription lenses and get screwed on price all the time. I'm pretty happy with my contacts. |
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Many thanks for excellent replies. My plan is to try to get stainless
solder and then try a jeweler. THere is a place on Queens Blvd which says "watch repair & shoe repair" If I get sep read/walk glasses, Zenni is as low as $9. I got the eyeglasses which broke in 2003 for $30 and that "factory outlet" now costs $40. They must be cast iron because they hurt and I tried to bend them in church when they broke. I used to be good at bending. I really don't care if the temple looks different. - = - Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos] |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Marsha" wrote in message ... ..When my mother's frames broke, the first shop we went to said they didn't have frames to fit her lenses, but they could do both frames and lenses. When I said we go someplace else, it was amazing how fast they found a pair of frames that fit. Marsha/Ohio There are too many factors to be able to argue the point. For instance, if the lens is small, and it's a bifocal prescription, trimming it might remove too much of one of the focal "zones". It all depends.... I understand that it's not easy to fit frames on lenses, but just the fact that they said they didn't have frames to fit, without even looking, and then miraculously finding them AFTER we said we going elsewhere was a little suspicious to me. Marsha/Ohio |
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Edwin Pawlowski writes:
Have you priced prescription glasses recently? Yep. Get them mailed here from offshore places like http://www.zennioptical.com/ where they do a first-class job. You're a sucker to pay the hometown optician racket any more. |
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Ivan Vegvary writes:
Fortunately, I need only reading glasses and have never paid more than 3 pairs for $19.95! Huh. I never pay more than $1/each at the dollar store. |
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When the thin tubual metal temples broke on my [Zenni Optical] glasses,
squeezed the ends into a short length of insulation from 12 gauge wire. Worked well for many months and didn't look too bad. Eventually Zenni sent a replacement. -- Remove -NOSPAM- to contact me. |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:34:20 -0500, Shawn Hirn
wrote: True, but the OP could use the original lenses in new frames. There's no law that says a frame and lenses must be sold together. The Dollar Store reading glasses have excellent eyeglass frames. Marginally better ones (as in looks) can be got at the pharmacists for $10 or less. |
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"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
. .. Edwin Pawlowski writes: Have you priced prescription glasses recently? Yep. Get them mailed here from offshore places like http://www.zennioptical.com/ where they do a first-class job. You're a sucker to pay the hometown optician racket any more. Looks interesting, but do they do a perfect job with wacky prescriptions, like bifocals with extreme astigmatism? |
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Richard J Kinch wrote:
Edwin Pawlowski writes: Have you priced prescription glasses recently? Yep. Get them mailed here from offshore places like http://www.zennioptical.com/ where they do a first-class job. You're a sucker to pay the hometown optician racket any more. Geesh! I was truly unaware such existed. Where are these people located? Have you done satisfactory business with them? The product is good? As I type this, with my ~$600.00 glasses, I am beginning to wish I'd known about this sooner! Regards, JS |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... Richard J Kinch wrote: Edwin Pawlowski writes: Have you priced prescription glasses recently? Yep. Get them mailed here from offshore places like http://www.zennioptical.com/ where they do a first-class job. You're a sucker to pay the hometown optician racket any more. Geesh! I was truly unaware such existed. Where are these people located? Have you done satisfactory business with them? The product is good? As I type this, with my ~$600.00 glasses, I am beginning to wish I'd known about this sooner! Regards, JS Me, too. But, I've got an odd prescription (very nearsighted, bad astigmatism, bifocals). A few years back, I tried to save some money. Pearl, LensCrafters and Wal-Mart completely phuqued up the prescription, but all said "We followed the numbers provided by the doctor". Well, not really. Back to the usual expensive optician, who did a perfect job, as usual. Fortunately, this little experiment cost me nothing but wasted time. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
... Geesh! I was truly unaware such existed. Where are these people located? Have you done satisfactory business with them? The product is good? As I type this, with my ~$600.00 glasses, I am beginning to wish I'd known about this sooner! Regards, JS Me, too. But, I've got an odd prescription (very nearsighted, bad astigmatism, bifocals). A few years back, I tried to save some money. Pearl, LensCrafters and Wal-Mart completely phuqued up the prescription, but all said "We followed the numbers provided by the doctor". Well, not really. Back to the usual expensive optician, who did a perfect job, as usual. Fortunately, this little experiment cost me nothing but wasted time. JoeSpareBedroom: I am sure you realize that did NOT actually answer the questions I posed. Mainly why I asked, when I do business with off-shore associates, I get a mastercard debit card, place an appropriate sum on the card and handle it that way ... Could you expand on what I previously asked, it would be greatly appreciated? Such as, you have a pair of these glasses which you find acceptable? I do take your previous text as an affirmative, but would like concrete confirmation--I know the money is small, which is at risk, still I don't like being "stiffed." Regards, JS |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: ... Geesh! I was truly unaware such existed. Where are these people located? Have you done satisfactory business with them? The product is good? As I type this, with my ~$600.00 glasses, I am beginning to wish I'd known about this sooner! Regards, JS Me, too. But, I've got an odd prescription (very nearsighted, bad astigmatism, bifocals). A few years back, I tried to save some money. Pearl, LensCrafters and Wal-Mart completely phuqued up the prescription, but all said "We followed the numbers provided by the doctor". Well, not really. Back to the usual expensive optician, who did a perfect job, as usual. Fortunately, this little experiment cost me nothing but wasted time. JoeSpareBedroom: I am sure you realize that did NOT actually answer the questions I posed. Mainly why I asked, when I do business with off-shore associates, I get a mastercard debit card, place an appropriate sum on the card and handle it that way ... Could you expand on what I previously asked, it would be greatly appreciated? Such as, you have a pair of these glasses which you find acceptable? I do take your previous text as an affirmative, but would like concrete confirmation--I know the money is small, which is at risk, still I don't like being "stiffed." Regards, JS Sorry if I went off on a bit of a tangent. I can't speak to the quality of the offshore product, obviously. In fact, they might actually do a great job with odd prescriptions, and finding out is a pretty cheap gamble. In order to get a perfect answer to your question, you will need to compare your prescription with those of other people who've used the service. Good luck. |
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Such as, you have a pair of these glasses which you find acceptable?
I do take your previous text as an affirmative, but would like concrete confirmation -- I know the money is small, which is at risk, still I don't like being "stiffed." One of the problems in getting a good fit is determining the optical center of your eyes. Just because a particular frame fits two people well, that doesn't mean their eyes are in the same positions relative to the frames. If all you need is simple dioptric correction, this might not matter, but if correction for astigmatism is required, you want the lens "centered" over the eye. An optician puts a gadget over your eyes that lets them determine where the pupils fall. The lenses are then ground with their optical centers at those points. For this reason, I would not have a Web or overseas company grind the lenses. Costco should be cheap enough. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:07:09 -0500, in sci.electronics.repair,
"Stormin Mormon" bloviated: I got a couple pair of glasses from Zenni. They seem fine to me. Gunner Asch has also mentioned being satisfied with Zenni. Gummy is also satisfied with Bush, Cheney, Iraq, the Economy, the Environment and using a saturday night special as a leather punch. |
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