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snip There is more money to be made being a lawyer sueing doctors than practicing medicine!! cite? (I doubt that very much.) -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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iraq war lifetime costs well over a trillion today and rising.
such costs as long term care for wounded veterans, psych care etc. war costs are more than todays costs and has only one way to go thats up |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"CJT" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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... iraq war lifetime costs well over a trillion today and rising. such costs as long term care for wounded veterans, psych care etc. war costs are more than todays costs and has only one way to go thats up The things you said, above, are in no way related to CJT's request for information on the numbers of uninsured. Please stop drinking, and try to read more slowly for better comprehension. Thank you. |
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On Dec 27, 7:51*pm, CJT wrote:
Rich256 wrote: snip There is more money to be made being a lawyer sueing doctors than practicing medicine!! cite? *(I doubt that very much.) -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. *Our true address is of the form . It was intended as a "tongue in Cheek" comment but take John Edwards for example. |
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CJT wrote:
wrote: On Dec 26, 8:12?pm, Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan:http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ plus obama isnt part of the problem I DONT like dynasties, clinton would be another dynasty like the bushes........ There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. I thought we had a good start. I was rooting for JEB Bush in this cycle and, after eight years, that good looking Hispanic nephew. By then the dynasty would be pretty well established and it would be only a small step to a monarchy. We conservatives have a nostalgia for the way things used to be... |
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CJT wrote:
HeyBub wrote: wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). Trillion, schmillion. It's for the children. 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? All the Democratic candidates complain there are 47 million people in this country without health insurance. Assuming there are about 300 million folks (299,398,484*) in the country, 300 - 47 = 253. My math may be a little off - it's been quite a while since I was in the 2nd grade. Your numbers may vary. 3. Waste in health care or the government is not the issue. In spite of political claims, we can tolerate an enormous amount of waste and inefficiency; our economy is that robust. What we can't tolerate is some functionary telling us: "No you can't have a wart removal - you're 45 and will die soon. It's not economical." That's probably why nobody proposes such a system. Giggle. Nobody but Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. I haven't looked at Dodd, Richardson, or Biden. ---- *http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html |
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CJT wrote:
I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. As I recall, of the 45 million uninsured, about 12 million are illegal aliens, 13 million are eligible for Medicare or Medicaid whose enrollment is automatic when they apply for health care, 7 million are young people who choose not to spend the money, about 2 million are between jobs that will provide insurance, 6 million are eligible for VA treatment, about 1 million are eligible for some sort of other government insurance (SCHIP, etc.) but do not apply, and about one million are rich enough to self-insure. That's 42 million of the 45 uninsured. I think the remaining 3 million are visitors from Canada. |
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In article , CJT
wrote: 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. Statistically, 1/2 of a person's lifetime health care costs occur in the last 12 months of their life. That health care is subtracted from younger people who have a life ahead of them. Maybe we should spend less on the elderly (I'm 69). Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:17:43 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:58:22 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:
CJT wrote: I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. As I recall, of the 45 million uninsured, about 12 million are illegal aliens, 13 million are eligible for Medicare or Medicaid whose enrollment is automatic when they apply for health care, 7 million are young people who choose not to spend the money, about 2 million are between jobs that will provide insurance, 6 million are eligible for VA treatment, about 1 million are eligible for some sort of other government insurance (SCHIP, etc.) but do not apply, and about one million are rich enough to self-insure. That's 42 million of the 45 uninsured. I think the remaining 3 million are visitors from Canada. Sounds like a severe case of F.Y.I.G.M. Come to think of it, that IS a Republican anthem. rj |
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RJ wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:58:22 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: CJT wrote: I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. As I recall, of the 45 million uninsured, about 12 million are illegal aliens, 13 million are eligible for Medicare or Medicaid whose enrollment is automatic when they apply for health care, 7 million are young people who choose not to spend the money, about 2 million are between jobs that will provide insurance, 6 million are eligible for VA treatment, about 1 million are eligible for some sort of other government insurance (SCHIP, etc.) but do not apply, and about one million are rich enough to self-insure. That's 42 million of the 45 uninsured. I think the remaining 3 million are visitors from Canada. Sounds like a severe case of F.Y.I.G.M. Come to think of it, that IS a Republican anthem. Hmmm... it sounds like you've got a terminal case of Y.M.B.T.T.G. (Your Money Belongs To The Government) -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:18:47 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:
David Starr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote: There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. The scumbag Clintons got them beat. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi, You like ever rising budget deficit and sky rocketing debt then? Want a tax rate of 75% on your income, then? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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HeyBub wrote:
CJT wrote: wrote: On Dec 26, 8:12?pm, Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan:http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ plus obama isnt part of the problem I DONT like dynasties, clinton would be another dynasty like the bushes........ There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. I thought we had a good start. I was rooting for JEB Bush in this cycle and, after eight years, that good looking Hispanic nephew. By then the dynasty would be pretty well established and it would be only a small step to a monarchy. We conservatives have a nostalgia for the way things used to be... Yeah, I know. It especially applies to women, blacks, ... -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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HeyBub wrote:
CJT wrote: HeyBub wrote: wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). Trillion, schmillion. It's for the children. Nah, the debt is for the children. The war is for the oil companies. 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? All the Democratic candidates complain there are 47 million people in this country without health insurance. Assuming there are about 300 million folks (299,398,484*) in the country, 300 - 47 = 253. My math may be a little off - it's been quite a while since I was in the 2nd grade. Your numbers may vary. That's 47 million too many. 3. Waste in health care or the government is not the issue. In spite of political claims, we can tolerate an enormous amount of waste and inefficiency; our economy is that robust. What we can't tolerate is some functionary telling us: "No you can't have a wart removal - you're 45 and will die soon. It's not economical." That's probably why nobody proposes such a system. Giggle. Nobody but Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. I haven't looked at Dodd, Richardson, or Biden. Sorry, no. ---- *http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:26:24 GMT, CJT wrote: All the Democratic candidates complain there are 47 million people in this country without health insurance. Assuming there are about 300 million folks (299,398,484*) in the country, 300 - 47 = 253. My math may be a little off - it's been quite a while since I was in the 2nd grade. Your numbers may vary. That's 47 million too many. So you want to force young people to buy insurance? Fine wirth me, just don't force me to pay for theirs. I would like to know what insurance has to do with whether or not people actually receive health care. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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In article , alt.home.repair,
says... "Rich256" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. As the government funds get lower the wait increases. I will bet Hillary and Bill wouldn't have to wait. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9659582 60 At least the border is close: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11 The workable solution would be something to cover catastrophic care. Not coverage for a sore throat. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I recall that in the early 1970s, when I was in college, I had an ID card from my dad, for "major medical" coverage. Aetna or some other company. I paid cash for the little stuff, which was rare, and this coverage was supposed to kick in for big problems. I tried to find that sort of coverage a couple of months ago. Guess what? It's now non-existent in NY State. I intend to find out why. That's an easy one to answer. The government doesn't *want* you to have insurance. They want you to have "free" medical care, no matter what it costs. -- Keith |
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In article , alt.home.repair,
says... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "CJT" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. I agree. Going without insurance is foolish. -- Keith |
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Dave Bugg wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:26:24 GMT, CJT wrote: All the Democratic candidates complain there are 47 million people in this country without health insurance. Assuming there are about 300 million folks (299,398,484*) in the country, 300 - 47 = 253. My math may be a little off - it's been quite a while since I was in the 2nd grade. Your numbers may vary. That's 47 million too many. So you want to force young people to buy insurance? Fine with me, just don't force me to pay for theirs. I would like to know what insurance has to do with whether or not people actually receive health care. Not much, but the populist-type candidates have to create a crisis by claiming lack of insurance is the problem. |
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HeyBub wrote:
CJT wrote: I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. As I recall, of the 45 million uninsured, about 12 million are illegal aliens, 13 million are eligible for Medicare or Medicaid whose enrollment is automatic when they apply for health care, 7 million are young people who choose not to spend the money, about 2 million are between jobs that will provide insurance, 6 million are eligible for VA treatment, about 1 million are eligible for some sort of other government insurance (SCHIP, etc.) but do not apply, and about one million are rich enough to self-insure. That's 42 million of the 45 uninsured. I think the remaining 3 million are visitors from Canada. [Giggle] So no problem, then. And pigs can fly, to boot. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Phisherman wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:17:43 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I don't want a health care plan. I want the government to live within its budget, and within the limits the Constitution places on government. I do not have health insurance. Any candidate that proposes a government health care plan will automatically NOT get my vote. Do you hope to be left to die in the street if catastrophic illness hits? -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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David Starr wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:18:47 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote: David Starr wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote: There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. The scumbag Clintons got them beat. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi, You like ever rising budget deficit and sky rocketing debt then? Want a tax rate of 75% on your income, then? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - That's not the option, so an irrelevant strawman. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:24:51 -0800, Oren wrote:
0On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:12:21 -0600, Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: How do I keep a candidate out of my wallet? * THE "TWO-COW EXPLANATION" OF WHAT MAKES... A CHRISTIAN: You have two cows. You keep one and give one to your neighbor. A SOCIALIST: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. A REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So what? A DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous. A COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk. A FASCIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage. DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government. CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows. BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then pours the milk down the drain. AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when the cow drops dead. A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows. A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves. AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch. A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka. A MEXICAN CORPORATION: You think you have two cows, but you don't know what a cow looks like. You take a nap. A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belongs to you. You charge for storing them for others. A BRAZILIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You enter into a partnership with an American corporation. Soon you have 1000 cows and the American corporation declares bankruptcy. AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them. Oren -- |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:46:04 -0600, CJT wrote:
Oren wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:17:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in message ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. Unless; I was an incarcerated felon. Federal Law and Court rulings; entitle federal prisoners to medical care at no cost. They line up for Sick Call. Same as any state system. Oren -- So the solution is simple -- advise everybody with a terminal disease to knock over the nearest 7-11. I won't hire you as a lawyer; given , you have simple solutions. A first time offender (white collar/crime?) goes to jail for six month sentence. first offense - age 62+ AND then his heart bypass $$$$. That is where money is wrongly spent. Oren -- |
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CJT wrote:
Do you hope to be left to die in the street if catastrophic illness hits? Won't happen. As some great worthy said (paraphrasing): The law, in its majestic equality, prohibits both rich and poor alike from begging alms on the public way, living under bridges, or sleeping in the gutter. |
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HeyBub wrote:
Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ Well, he reports the same silliness: 47 million Americans don't have health insurance. Lack of heath INSURANCE is not the same as lack of health CARE. Of these, 10-12 million are illegal aliens, 2-5 million are seniors who have not yet signed up for Medicare, about 20 million are young people who have chosen NOT to spend their money on insurance, 2-4 million are between jobs that include insurance. So, then, 34 to 41 of the 49 million are not part of the chronically uninsured. As to ca Of the 8-13 million not covered, they can still get health care at emergency rooms, pubic clinics, VA, and other sources. Obama and many others would chance screwing up a health insurance system that WORKS for 300 million people just so a very small number can get more attention. Hell, my wife can't even get a bone density scan because insurance won't pay for it and we have deductibles to pay from her accident that insurance won't pay. She is being denied treatment because we owe $10,000 and haven't yet paid it all off yet, work and are citizens. I guess the answer is to only get hurt or get sick if you have the means to pay for it? "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" ? Not for all. And we have worked our butts off our entire lives. Of course there are people who are without insurance by choice. Of course an inordinate amount of tax money is spent on the health of illegals aliens, the shiftless and criminals. What about those of us who have served our country well, worked all of our lives. Maintained a legal lifestyle and have always tried to do the right thing for ourselves and our country? I can go to the VA but the nearest clinic is 75 miles from me. I'm not sure if gov't run health care (look at the debacle that IS the VA) is the answer but something needs to be done. Maybe the ceo's of these companies need to learn to live on a few billion $ less. "LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" sounds like a constitutional guarantee to me. |
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Rich256 wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. As the government funds get lower the wait increases. I will bet Hillary and Bill wouldn't have to wait. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9659582 60 At least the border is close: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11 The workable solution would be something to cover catastrophic care. Not coverage for a sore throat. There ya go. We had a health plan that covered ALL expenses but it got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive because people would go to the Doc for a pimple. Smokers and obese people also caused the rates to rise because they had more severe symptoms when they got a cold or the flu. I say that if you are obese because of laziness or smoke due to stupidity you should be on your own. Don't be an anchor around the necks of the rest of us. |
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The only *"GUARANTEE" *is that the government will not interfere with or
obstruct your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness .. .. ..nobody can guarantee achievement of those, only the opportunity to attain them I am sorry that you are caught up in some bad circumstances, I'm sure you didn't ask for that situation, nor do you probably deserve them. "LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" sounds like a constitutional guarantee to me. |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:35:43 -0500, "__ Bøb __"
graced this newsgroup with: The only *"GUARANTEE" *is that the government will not interfere with or obstruct your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness .. .. ..nobody can guarantee achievement of those, only the opportunity to attain them I am sorry that you are caught up in some bad circumstances, I'm sure you didn't ask for that situation, nor do you probably deserve them. "LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" sounds like a constitutional guarantee to me. LIFE, not HEATH. |
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t... I recall that in the early 1970s, when I was in college, I had an ID card from my dad, for "major medical" coverage. Aetna or some other company. I paid cash for the little stuff, which was rare, and this coverage was supposed to kick in for big problems. I tried to find that sort of coverage a couple of months ago. Guess what? It's now non-existent in NY State. I intend to find out why. That's an easy one to answer. The government doesn't *want* you to have insurance. They want you to have "free" medical care, no matter what it costs. -- Keith ++++++++++++++++++++++++= Sure. That's logical. zzzzzz......... |
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"krw" wrote in message
t... In article , alt.home.repair, says... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "CJT" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? I haven't examined the data here yet. It may or may not support your point, or whatever HeySlob claims. Have a look, though. http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7553.cfm 45 million non-elderly insured is too many, regardless. I agree. Going without insurance is foolish. -- Keith How much do you pay for health insurance, and in which state do you live? I'm asking about the total price, not just the part you pay, if your employer shares the cost. |
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