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I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable
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0On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:12:21 -0600, Caesar Romano
wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: How do I keep a candidate out of my wallet? |
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On Dec 26, 8:12�pm, Caesar Romano wrote:
I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan:http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ plus obama isnt part of the problem I DONT like dynasties, clinton would be another dynasty like the bushes........ |
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Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just
wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ |
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__ Bøb __ wrote:
Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ The thing is, people are getting health care now, and it IS being paid for. So the resources are available and being used -- but inefficiently, because the poor show up at emergency rooms rather than doctors' offices. The "give 'em only what they can pay for" strategy can only work if we're willing to let people who CAN'T (or, unless coverage is mandatory, WON'T) pay die in the streets. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:55:30 -0500, "__ Bøb __"
wrote: Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" Dead-Nut-Accurate!! I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote:
There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. Not even a Kennedy? Hick-up!.. Rum Runners and such. |
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Caesar Romano wrote:
I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ Well, he reports the same silliness: 47 million Americans don't have health insurance. Lack of heath INSURANCE is not the same as lack of health CARE. Of these, 10-12 million are illegal aliens, 2-5 million are seniors who have not yet signed up for Medicare, about 20 million are young people who have chosen NOT to spend their money on insurance, 2-4 million are between jobs that include insurance. So, then, 34 to 41 of the 49 million are not part of the chronically uninsured. As to ca Of the 8-13 million not covered, they can still get health care at emergency rooms, pubic clinics, VA, and other sources. Obama and many others would chance screwing up a health insurance system that WORKS for 300 million people just so a very small number can get more attention. |
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""__ Bøb __"" wrote in message
... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. |
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"CJT" wrote in message
... __ Bøb __ wrote: Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ The thing is, people are getting health care now, and it IS being paid for. So the resources are available and being used -- but inefficiently, because the poor show up at emergency rooms rather than doctors' offices. The "give 'em only what they can pay for" strategy can only work if we're willing to let people who CAN'T (or, unless coverage is mandatory, WON'T) pay die in the streets. We already have a socialized medicine organization that pretty much everyone approves of completely, even though the quality of care is mixed, according to its customers. Let's see how many hundreds of messages it takes for all the patriots to name the organization. This will be fun. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "CJT" wrote in message ... __ Bøb __ wrote: Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. Caesar Romano wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ The thing is, people are getting health care now, and it IS being paid for. So the resources are available and being used -- but inefficiently, because the poor show up at emergency rooms rather than doctors' offices. The "give 'em only what they can pay for" strategy can only work if we're willing to let people who CAN'T (or, unless coverage is mandatory, WON'T) pay die in the streets. We already have a socialized medicine organization that pretty much everyone approves of completely, even though the quality of care is mixed, according to its customers. Let's see how many hundreds of messages it takes for all the patriots to name the organization. This will be fun. I'm in it and if anyone wants to trade my VA healthcare for what they have, let's make a deal. -- The very first thing they teach freshmen politicians is that a politician's main job is to make people worry about something so the government can fix it and tax it. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! http://www.reason.com/ www.ij.org JC |
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wrote in message
... On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:19:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: We already have a socialized medicine organization that pretty much everyone approves of completely, even though the quality of care is mixed, according to its customers. Let's see how many hundreds of messages it takes for all the patriots to name the organization. This will be fun. Well you have medicare but it is going broke even though every person with a job pays in and only workers with 40 quarters over 65 can collect. Even then it isn't completely "free". I imagine you are looking for VA. Yep. That's our example of socialized medicine. Now, let's see who comes along and suggests abolishing it solely because it is a perfect example of socialized medicine. |
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On Dec 27, 7:17*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. As the government funds get lower the wait increases. I will bet Hillary and Bill wouldn't have to wait. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9659582 60 At least the border is close: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11 The workable solution would be something to cover catastrophic care. Not coverage for a sore throat. |
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"Rich256" wrote in message
... On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. As the government funds get lower the wait increases. I will bet Hillary and Bill wouldn't have to wait. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9659582 60 At least the border is close: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11 The workable solution would be something to cover catastrophic care. Not coverage for a sore throat. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I recall that in the early 1970s, when I was in college, I had an ID card from my dad, for "major medical" coverage. Aetna or some other company. I paid cash for the little stuff, which was rare, and this coverage was supposed to kick in for big problems. I tried to find that sort of coverage a couple of months ago. Guess what? It's now non-existent in NY State. I intend to find out why. |
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Is Alfred E Newman, or Pat Paulson running this year?
Steve |
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Rich256 wrote:
On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. According to GE, there are more MRI machines in Seattle than there are in all of Canada. But it's not all bad: Abortions are free in Canada, but of course there's a ten-month wait... |
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On Dec 27, 9:39*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Rich256 wrote: On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. *In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. According to GE, there are more MRI machines in Seattle than there are in all of Canada. But it's not all bad: Abortions are free in Canada, but of course there's a ten-month wait...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And in some countries (maybe most with government supplied care) some bureaucrat reviews your case to decide if you are worth the cost. In some countires if he turns you down you can't get treatment even for pay because then you would be receiving something that is supposed to be free. How much is an angoioplasty going to help if you are already 85 years old? Then in those countries, if you have the money you go elsewhere such as the U.S. |
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Rich256 wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:39 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Rich256 wrote: On Dec 27, 7:17 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. The last I heard there is a nine month delay to get a angioplasty in Canada. In the US they try to perform one within 30 minutes of arrival at the hospital. Canada practices the same medicine we do. Waiting a few months for an angio would not bother me unless I was having chest paint. The practice nowadays is to do an angio and stent for someone HAVING a heart attack.....big difference. Some numbers are showing that even that practice might not help life expectancy when compared with medication alone. When you have 90% of a coronary artery clogged, it is not your only health problem. According to GE, there are more MRI machines in Seattle than there are in all of Canada. And about 50% of MRI's are probably for disputed Worker's Comp. claims ) But it's not all bad: Abortions are free in Canada, but of course there's a ten-month wait...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And in some countries (maybe most with government supplied care) some bureaucrat reviews your case to decide if you are worth the cost. In some countires if he turns you down you can't get treatment even for pay because then you would be receiving something that is supposed to be free. How much is an angoioplasty going to help if you are I had a tremendous friend - best of my life - who lived to be 94. Oh, how I wish there was another, but there never will be. She had her first heart attack, with cardiac arrest, at age 72. Couple more mild heart attacks. Bad back. Broken hip at 88. Got shingles when about 90. In pain, but tough as nails. She was hospitalized when she was about 89, getting very sick with intestinal problems and having a great deal of shoulder pain. During her first day in the hospital, I was reading the newspaper and happened to see a full-page ad for one of the cholesterol drugs. WOW! Under "side effects" was a perfect description of her complaints. She was taken off all meds, then put back on just her beta blocker or whatever it was. Cholesterol meds at age 89???? Hell, just take the money and hang a gold medal on my chest if I live to be 80 ) already 85 years old? Then in those countries, if you have the money you go elsewhere such as the U.S. How is a government bureaucrat different from a clerk at an insurance company? When my friend Hillary is elected, I'm going to help her set up clinical trials for chronic care by staffing the places to overflowing with registered nurses. No $8/hour slaves. Then, pass a bill to educate, for free, anyone who wants to go to medical school and specialize in gerontology. Old people can't tolerate the same crap that younger ones can, and half the cost of medical care is in undoing the poor treatment being given. Americans are too stupid and lazy to figure out what/when a particular treatment will cause problems. Replacement hormones are a good example. Dearies can't stand a few hot flashes, so they end up on hormones, then diuretics, then potassium replacement, then heart problems. Buy a cotton t-shirt and get over it! ) You could probably take the money spent on disposable diapers in nursing homes and staff the dumps so that there is enough staff to take granny and gramps to the bathroom when they need to go. I don't recall a nursing home patient, ever, who fell for any reason other than trying to get to the bathroom. If it comes to putting me in a nursing home, I hope someone will just cut my throat. I get a "free" physical when I enroll in Medicare in the not too distant future. Then some jerk will tell me my bones are thinning and want to put me on another expensive drug. |
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the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare
for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone |
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wrote in message ... the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. Has anyone ever noticed that the ONLY thing the US Constitution allows the federal government to spend money is the common defence? Your healthcare is your problem. Get your priorities straight and put your health before the new car, the fancy meals, the big house, the HDTV, the beer and cigarettes and all the other crap you put before your health and you'll be just fine. -- The very first thing they teach freshmen politicians is that a politician's main job is to make people worry about something so the government can fix it and tax it. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! http://www.reason.com/ www.ij.org JC |
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"nick hull" wrote in message .. . In article , Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:52:27 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:24:51 -0800, Oren wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: How do I keep a candidate out of my wallet? That would be Ron Paul Or so he says? So he acts; he never voted for a tax increase. He's my congressman and don't think for a minute that he don't do his share of earmarks. -- The very first thing they teach freshmen politicians is that a politician's main job is to make people worry about something so the government can fix it and tax it. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! http://www.reason.com/ www.ij.org JC |
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In article
, " wrote: if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone "Health care" is the ultimate pork, a bottomless pit Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:52:27 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:24:51 -0800, Oren wrote: I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: How do I keep a candidate out of my wallet? That would be Ron Paul Or so he says? So he acts; he never voted for a tax increase. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote:
There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. The scumbag Clintons got them beat. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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David Starr wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote: There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. The scumbag Clintons got them beat. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi, You like ever rising budget deficit and sky rocketing debt then? |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:17:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in message ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. Unless; I was an incarcerated felon. Federal Law and Court rulings; entitle federal prisoners to medical care at no cost. They line up for Sick Call. Same as any state system. Oren -- |
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congress is a ineffetive waste because its all about getting elected,
and re elected. so fundraising and beholden to special interest groups. people basically buy congress...... what were left with....... a useless bunch of pork barrel jerks, immitating congressmen.............. the first step to fix things is election reform, limits on campaign fund raising, and term limits......... withot this are country is doomed to wasted money and pork spending........ but hey maybe congressional approval rates can get below 28% they currently are. maybe top out at 5% |
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Caesar Romano wrote:
I hate to admit it, but B.O. is the only candidate with a reasonable health care plan: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/ No need for politics here. Plenty of usenet groups for that. Caesar, being too stupid to comprehend that, and not a useful contributor here in any event, gets filtered. PLONK. |
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On Dec 27, 12:18*pm, " wrote:
the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. Pretty obvious you did not research your numbers. Health care is in US costs over two TRILLION a year. Cost of the Iraq war was less than 500 Billion the last I heard. if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Limited care but not what many want. Everyone can have 1960 level care but the cost of the top medical care simply can't be supplied. For men with prostate problems the US has the latest laser surgery. Canada has not yet purchased even one machine (The knife is "good enough"). They are thinking of buying one because less time in the hospital might pay for the difference. UK has a machine but the wait is months if available at all. Most there go for pay for service. |
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On Dec 27, 12:18*pm, " wrote:
the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone The last I heard the cost of Iraq was running something less than 500 Billion. Yeah very expensive. However, the "Annual" cost of health care in the US is over 2 Trillion. The bottom line seems to be that with universal health care everyone eventually gets taken care of but not necessarily at the level they would like. For example men in the US with prostate problems are now being treated with laser system. Every city has several of the machines. Canada has yet to buy their first one (The knife is cheaper and "good enough"). It is the same in other countries with universal care. The laser system is considered too expensive. UK has one and if you are a member of parliment or the royal family you might get treated that way. Others there go for pay for service to get that treatment. A doctor in Canada said that in the US health care is rationed by price. In Canada it is by queue. Also note that over 25% of the doctors in the US are foreigners. Another big cost that will have to be supplied by the Governement is education of doctors. There is more money to be made being a lawyer sueing doctors than practicing medicine!! |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
I don't want a health care plan. I want the government to live within its budget, and within the limits the Constitution places on government. Then you need to vote for a Democrat. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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nick hull wrote:
In article , " wrote: if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone "Health care" is the ultimate pork, a bottomless pit That is certainly true of the system we have NOW. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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David Starr wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:47:08 GMT, CJT wrote: There is NO other dynasty like the #$%^&* Bushes. The scumbag Clintons got them beat. In a GOOD way, sure. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Speak softly and carry a loaded .45 Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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wrote: the triilons wasted in iraq would likely pay for top notch healthcare for everyone.. the current system is broke, something better should be created. if someone with no health coverage shows up at the ER with a life threatening trouble they get cared for too. cant have them dying in the waiting room...... such care can cost big bucks and earlier treatement may have saved lots of money., if the government quit wasting money on pork projects we could probably afford good health care for everyone Comments: 1. It's not TRILLIONS for the Iraq war, it's only a few hundred billion. Probably more like a trillion if we're honest about all the costs that will continue (e.g. caring for the tens of thousands of maimed soldiers). 2. The current system is not broke. About 253 million people (out of 300 million) have health insurance. cite? 3. Waste in health care or the government is not the issue. In spite of political claims, we can tolerate an enormous amount of waste and inefficiency; our economy is that robust. What we can't tolerate is some functionary telling us: "No you can't have a wart removal - you're 45 and will die soon. It's not economical." That's probably why nobody proposes such a system. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Oren wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:17:19 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: ""__ Bøb __"" wrote in message ... Yeah right .. .. .. if you think health care is expen$ive now .. . just wait 'till it's "FREE" I don't know who got this notion of universal health care started, but (my opinion) you are entitled to the best health care you can afford .. nothing in the constitution says you get the best for free .. .. .. You'd change your tune if YOU couldn't afford health care you needed to survive a catastrophic illness. Unless; I was an incarcerated felon. Federal Law and Court rulings; entitle federal prisoners to medical care at no cost. They line up for Sick Call. Same as any state system. Oren -- So the solution is simple -- advise everybody with a terminal disease to knock over the nearest 7-11. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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