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Smarty November 22nd 07 05:53 PM

Stacked sump pumps
 
I've just had an unexpected failure of my 6 year old sump pump, resulting in
a fair amount of rain water in my basement.

In considering replacements, the thought occurs to me that a 2nd redundant
pump placed above the replacement primary pump would hopefully prevent this
situation from occurring again.

The sump is 18 inches in diameter and 28 inches deep, enough space (I think)
to mount two pumps, one above the other.

I am a bit uncertain as to how, if at all, I should use one-way valves in
the discharge plumbing to prevent backflow.

The discharge line is 1-1/4inch NPT. I am wondering if just using a "tee" to
join the two discharge lines would be sufficient?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated and thank you in advance.

Happy Thanksgiving to a terrific group of very knowledgeable and helpful
people!

Smarty



DanG November 22nd 07 06:40 PM

Stacked sump pumps
 
It is standard and normal to have 2 pumps. They can be installed
side by side with an alternating A/B switch that fires the
opposite one at each startup or can be designed to give each pump
the same operating hours. The pumps can also be arranged in
series or in parallel . They are rigged to both come on when
necessary. All of the switching and mechanics are readily
available. Each pump has its own check valve. Here is a site
that offers a package system:
http://www.championpump.com/packages.htm

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Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Smarty" wrote in message
news:5mj1j.18273$701.5782@trndny08...
I've just had an unexpected failure of my 6 year old sump pump,
resulting in a fair amount of rain water in my basement.

In considering replacements, the thought occurs to me that a 2nd
redundant pump placed above the replacement primary pump would
hopefully prevent this situation from occurring again.

The sump is 18 inches in diameter and 28 inches deep, enough
space (I think) to mount two pumps, one above the other.

I am a bit uncertain as to how, if at all, I should use one-way
valves in the discharge plumbing to prevent backflow.

The discharge line is 1-1/4inch NPT. I am wondering if just
using a "tee" to join the two discharge lines would be
sufficient?

Any thoughts would be most appreciated and thank you in advance.

Happy Thanksgiving to a terrific group of very knowledgeable and
helpful people!

Smarty




Doug Miller November 23rd 07 01:45 AM

Stacked sump pumps
 
In article 5mj1j.18273$701.5782@trndny08, "Smarty" wrote:
I've just had an unexpected failure of my 6 year old sump pump, resulting in
a fair amount of rain water in my basement.

In considering replacements, the thought occurs to me that a 2nd redundant
pump placed above the replacement primary pump would hopefully prevent this
situation from occurring again.


That would protect you from a pump failure, yes -- but what about a power
failure? For your second pump, consider something with a backup battery, such
as Basement Watchdog or Ace in the Hole.

The sump is 18 inches in diameter and 28 inches deep, enough space (I think)
to mount two pumps, one above the other.


Or side by side, which is almost certainly easier.

I am a bit uncertain as to how, if at all, I should use one-way valves in
the discharge plumbing to prevent backflow.


You should always use one-way valves.

The discharge line is 1-1/4inch NPT. I am wondering if just using a "tee" to
join the two discharge lines would be sufficient?


I'd use a wye instead of a tee (less flow resistance for the arm on the side).

Any thoughts would be most appreciated and thank you in advance.


Having two backflow preventers, one per pump, installed on the pump side of
the wye, will make installation (and later service) much easier, as opposed to
a single backflow preventer on the discharge side of the wye -- provided you
use the type with rubber couplings and hose clamps, not the ones with threaded
fittings.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Smarty November 23rd 07 02:12 PM

Stacked sump pumps
 
Thanks all for the great advice. I am going out today to see what the local
stores have available. Unfortunately there has been a lot of rain here so I
can't postpone my decision too long.

Smarty


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
In article 5mj1j.18273$701.5782@trndny08, "Smarty"
wrote:
I've just had an unexpected failure of my 6 year old sump pump, resulting
in
a fair amount of rain water in my basement.

In considering replacements, the thought occurs to me that a 2nd redundant
pump placed above the replacement primary pump would hopefully prevent
this
situation from occurring again.


That would protect you from a pump failure, yes -- but what about a power
failure? For your second pump, consider something with a backup battery,
such
as Basement Watchdog or Ace in the Hole.

The sump is 18 inches in diameter and 28 inches deep, enough space (I
think)
to mount two pumps, one above the other.


Or side by side, which is almost certainly easier.

I am a bit uncertain as to how, if at all, I should use one-way valves in
the discharge plumbing to prevent backflow.


You should always use one-way valves.

The discharge line is 1-1/4inch NPT. I am wondering if just using a "tee"
to
join the two discharge lines would be sufficient?


I'd use a wye instead of a tee (less flow resistance for the arm on the
side).

Any thoughts would be most appreciated and thank you in advance.


Having two backflow preventers, one per pump, installed on the pump side
of
the wye, will make installation (and later service) much easier, as
opposed to
a single backflow preventer on the discharge side of the wye -- provided
you
use the type with rubber couplings and hose clamps, not the ones with
threaded
fittings.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.





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