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OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
Evidently not. Who knew?
"A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
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"HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...e-man-house-da maged/ Darn it. Must've thought he had the explosion proof motor option on that. I wonder whether the instruction manual contains the appropriate warning. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... He's obviously an idiot. For siphoning explosive liquids, I always use a pump attachment on my Dewalt 18V drill. You know, the drill whose brushes spark a bit when the motor's brake is applied. What could possibly go wrong? |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...e-man-house-da maged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Having a humor-impaired day today, Kanter? |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
In article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...que-man-house- damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Try this link, Joe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"dpb" wrote in message ...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- Do a search for 10-20 other posts from heybub, and then tell me if you think he's being sarcastic. The guy's a twit. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 15, 7:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Amazing but then nothing surprises me anymore. I can class myself in the stupid category for a stunt last winter. Went out to burn my brush piles, stopped on the way to fill up 5 gal cans, one with gas for the snow blower, one with diesel to start the fires with. Stuffed paper and some kindling under the first, added diesel, lit it, went to second and repeated. Back to first and wasn't burning well so splashed more diesel on. Woosh. back to 2nd, repeat there. 1st still not doing well so tossed a really good bunch on getting not only a good "woosh" but I now had a flame flckering at the can spout. Smothered that by slapping glove over it. That is when I realized I had the gas can, not the diesel one. Had sit down and coffeee while waiting for my legs to quit shaking. Harry K |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Sadly, there's probably a lawyer at his door offering to handle his lawsuit against the makers of such an unsafe device... |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
Mamba wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Sadly, there's probably a lawyer at his door offering to handle his lawsuit against the makers of such an unsafe device... I would say there very likely more than one. Lawyers dream of such cases because of the amount of wealth they can transfer to themselves. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- Do a search for 10-20 other posts from heybub, and then tell me if you think he's being sarcastic. The guy's a twit. Don't know, don't care...came out that way to me in this particular thread, anyway...if wrong, so be it. (Note the :) ) -- |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"dpb" wrote in message ...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "dpb" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- Do a search for 10-20 other posts from heybub, and then tell me if you think he's being sarcastic. The guy's a twit. Don't know, don't care...came out that way to me in this particular thread, anyway...if wrong, so be it. (Note the :) ) -- Me too. :) |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 15, 9:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Wow thats even dumber than the Iranians climbing the electric pole to steal power (posted a few weeks ago). A college friend of mine once tried to "dry out" a flooded carburetor in dead winter by "burning off" the excess fuel in the carburator throat. He was running for the extinguisher when the rubber gas line started burning too. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...que-man-house- damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Try this link, Joe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm Sarcasm doesn't translate well in ng's I've noticed. Jim |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:19:34 -0500, Meat Plow wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:09:38 -0600, HeyBub wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ For ****'s sake!! gas is flamable? |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:09:38 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:
Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Good grief...... I would have never even thought of doing something so stupid. I'm pretty sure those motors have brushes, and brushes mean sparks. I dont even like using those little drill operated pumps that you can buy anywhere for under $5. I have one, used it for water several times, but for gas I'll stick to the old fashioned hand operated squeeze bulb, and make sure not to smoke while doing it. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:15:26 -0600, dpb wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "dpb" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- Do a search for 10-20 other posts from heybub, and then tell me if you think he's being sarcastic. The guy's a twit. Don't know, don't care...came out that way to me in this particular thread, anyway...if wrong, so be it. (Note the :) ) Who cares.... The article is from what appears to be a perfectly legitimate newspaper, so it's obviously true. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Well! No more free kisses for you! |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "dpb" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Guess your sarcasm meter wasn't on yet today, eh? :) -- Do a search for 10-20 other posts from heybub, and then tell me if you think he's being sarcastic. The guy's a twit. I did a search for "JoeSpareBedroom" and found you're Doug Kanter, right? You are one heck of a dancer Doug! http://www.jibjab.com/starring_you/receipt/984147 |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...e-man-house-da maged/ Darn it. Must've thought he had the explosion proof motor option on that. I wonder whether the instruction manual contains the appropriate warning. Hi, Spark proof not explosion proof. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
HeyBub wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...house-damaged/ Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Well! No more free kisses for you! Don't loan him your wet vac. -- Angry American flags attack Hillary Clinton! |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 16, 11:22 am, clifto wrote:
HeyBub wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message ... Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Who knew? Anybody with a fully functioning brain, you moron. Well! No more free kisses for you! Don't loan him your wet vac. -- Angry American flags attack Hillary Clinton!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't loan him your wet vac Loan him your old wet vac...kill 2 birds with one stone. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
DerbyDad03 wrote: For siphoning explosive liquids, I always use a pump attachment on my Dewalt 18V drill. You know, the drill whose brushes spark a bit when the motor's brake is applied. What could possibly go wrong? You could die, so, in other words, nothing. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
George wrote: I would say there very likely more than one. Lawyers dream of such cases because of the amount of wealth they can transfer to themselves. And I suppose you never sued anybody. My first case was against Mother and Father, for Santa Claus fraud. Siphoning gasoline with a wet-dry vac isn't that uncommon. Only last month, this misguided youth tried it: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...rned1009.html# |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 16, 3:06 am, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:09:38 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Good grief...... I would have never even thought of doing something so stupid. I'm pretty sure those motors have brushes, and brushes mean sparks. I dont even like using those little drill operated pumps that you can buy anywhere for under $5. I have one, used it for water several times, but for gas I'll stick to the old fashioned hand operated squeeze bulb, and make sure not to smoke while doing it. Yup. All these rank right in there with those about the lady who washed her telephone in hot water in the kitchen sink "Because it was dirty"!. (It short circuited the telephone line so none of the phones in the house would work!). Or the kids who put a pet cat into the microwave to dry it off after giving it a bath' etc./ etc. (First Kitty was shivering; and then was dead.). Misunderstanding of the tools and technology we have at hand makes us modern humans more stupid than a 'primitive person's' understanding of more natural events. Such as "Don't eat those berries they will kill or make you sick. That water or that animal/fish etc. is unclean and will give you disease. Of course what we are currently doing to the planet is going in that direction anyway! |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 9:55 am, wrote:
George wrote: I would say there very likely more than one. Lawyers dream of such cases because of the amount of wealth they can transfer to themselves. And I suppose you never sued anybody. My first case was against Mother and Father, for Santa Claus fraud. Siphoning gasoline with a wet-dry vac isn't that uncommon. Only last month, this misguided youth tried it: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...rned1009.html# Siphoning gasoline with a wet-dry vac isn't that uncommon It's uncommon by this definition: un·com·mon - adjective, - 3. exceptional; remarkable. As in, exceptionally stupid, remarkably idiotic. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Ron wrote:
On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. Shop-Vac Jet Engine Myth: A guy was cleaning his pool and heard an explosion. He went to his neighbor's house -- his neighbor was using a shop-vac to get the sediment off the bottom of the gas tank in his boat. The fumes went through the shop-vac and turned it into a turbine engine. Test 1: Shop-Vac + Gas Can They put a small amount of gas in a gas can so that it was mostly full of fumes. They hooked it up to a shop-vac for five minutes to see if they could get an explosion. No explosion. It turns out that the shop-vac that they had chosen, like most new shop-vacs, has a safety featu the motor is isolated from the tank and air running through the tank, so the motor can't spark the fumes. Test 2: Short-circuited shop-vac + Gas Can By accident, they short-circuited their shop-vac parts, sending sparks everywhere. Happy with this discovery, they decide to rig a worst-case shop-vac: short-circuit and a hole drilled through to allow the spark to reach the fumes. They also added more gas to the gas can. No explosion. Test 3: Creating a Jet-engine out of Vacuum Parts Tory went to A&G Vacuum shop to pick up some more vacuums. A&G Vacuum was the site of Adam's facial run-in with a vacuum motor (Adam decided to stick his face near a motor, which pulled in and chopped up his lip). The Vacuum Man showed Tory an older vacuum that was capable of sparking fumes into a fire. This proved that it's possible for a vacuum to catch on fire, but it didn't turn into a jet engine. With this in mind, Tory was tasked with replicating the results of the myth, i.e. creating a jet-engine out of vacuum parts. Tory's design: * Vacuum motor sucks in air into a tube * Fuel injector made from a propane ring from a propane stove * Flame catcher made from a conical strainer * Fans at back Tory: "There are going to be a lot of engineers out there going, 'What the hell is he doing?' and I'm asking myself that on a moment-by- moment basis, 'What the hell am I doing?'" Tory's vacuum-based jet-engine was hung up chamber with an ignitor. First try: no ignition. Tory moved the ignitor to the end of the engine. Second try: still no ignition. Tory then tried an open flame at the end of the chamber: finally, ignition. There was a tiny, tiny bit of thrust when the vacuum motor started, but for the most part it just tossed flames around the chamber. Jamie's explanation: "The whole concept of a vacuum cleaner being a jet engine is all wrong. It goes against the principles that make jet engines. Vacuum cleaner create vacuums, that's low pressure. A jet engine works by creating more pressure, which completes the compression, so it's just not practical." mythbusted http://tinyurl.com/2sclx7 |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 11:14 am, Ron wrote:
On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. Shop-Vac Jet Engine Myth: A guy was cleaning his pool and heard an explosion. He went to his neighbor's house -- his neighbor was using a shop-vac to get the sediment off the bottom of the gas tank in his boat. The fumes went through the shop-vac and turned it into a turbine engine. Test 1: Shop-Vac + Gas Can They put a small amount of gas in a gas can so that it was mostly full of fumes. They hooked it up to a shop-vac for five minutes to see if they could get an explosion. No explosion. It turns out that the shop-vac that they had chosen, like most new shop-vacs, has a safety featu the motor is isolated from the tank and air running through the tank, so the motor can't spark the fumes. Test 2: Short-circuited shop-vac + Gas Can By accident, they short-circuited their shop-vac parts, sending sparks everywhere. Happy with this discovery, they decide to rig a worst-case shop-vac: short-circuit and a hole drilled through to allow the spark to reach the fumes. They also added more gas to the gas can. No explosion. Test 3: Creating a Jet-engine out of Vacuum Parts Tory went to A&G Vacuum shop to pick up some more vacuums. A&G Vacuum was the site of Adam's facial run-in with a vacuum motor (Adam decided to stick his face near a motor, which pulled in and chopped up his lip). The Vacuum Man showed Tory an older vacuum that was capable of sparking fumes into a fire. This proved that it's possible for a vacuum to catch on fire, but it didn't turn into a jet engine. With this in mind, Tory was tasked with replicating the results of the myth, i.e. creating a jet-engine out of vacuum parts. Tory's design: * Vacuum motor sucks in air into a tube * Fuel injector made from a propane ring from a propane stove * Flame catcher made from a conical strainer * Fans at back Tory: "There are going to be a lot of engineers out there going, 'What the hell is he doing?' and I'm asking myself that on a moment-by- moment basis, 'What the hell am I doing?'" Tory's vacuum-based jet-engine was hung up chamber with an ignitor. First try: no ignition. Tory moved the ignitor to the end of the engine. Second try: still no ignition. Tory then tried an open flame at the end of the chamber: finally, ignition. There was a tiny, tiny bit of thrust when the vacuum motor started, but for the most part it just tossed flames around the chamber. Jamie's explanation: "The whole concept of a vacuum cleaner being a jet engine is all wrong. It goes against the principles that make jet engines. Vacuum cleaner create vacuums, that's low pressure. A jet engine works by creating more pressure, which completes the compression, so it's just not practical." mythbusted http://tinyurl.com/2sclx7 It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 9:27�am, wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: For siphoning explosive liquids, I always use a pump attachment on my Dewalt 18V drill. �You know, the drill whose brushes spark a bit when the motor's brake is applied. What could possibly go wrong? You could die, so, in other words, nothing. After you finish with the gas, you can dry it out by sweeping up the hot ashes from your fireplace! WM |
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On Nov 17, 6:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y Unbelievable, especially with kids around. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 10:27 pm, Ron wrote:
On Nov 17, 6:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y Unbelievable, especially with kids around. Kids *around*? It was kids that were doing it. Did you hear one kid say "We definitely can't tell Mom and Dad?" |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 10:47 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 17, 10:27 pm, Ron wrote: On Nov 17, 6:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y Unbelievable, especially with kids around. Kids *around*? It was kids that were doing it. Did you hear one kid say "We definitely can't tell Mom and Dad?" What I meant was, there seemed to be two "older kids" around and then two younger ones around. I would have to watch it again to be exactly sure. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 11:14 am, Ron wrote:
On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. Shop-Vac Jet Engine Myth: A guy was cleaning his pool and heard an explosion. He went to his neighbor's house -- his neighbor was using a shop-vac to get the sediment off the bottom of the gas tank in his boat. The fumes went through the shop-vac and turned it into a turbine engine. Test 1: Shop-Vac + Gas Can They put a small amount of gas in a gas can so that it was mostly full of fumes. They hooked it up to a shop-vac for five minutes to see if they could get an explosion. No explosion. It turns out that the shop-vac that they had chosen, like most new shop-vacs, has a safety featu the motor is isolated from the tank and air running through the tank, so the motor can't spark the fumes. Test 2: Short-circuited shop-vac + Gas Can By accident, they short-circuited their shop-vac parts, sending sparks everywhere. Happy with this discovery, they decide to rig a worst-case shop-vac: short-circuit and a hole drilled through to allow the spark to reach the fumes. They also added more gas to the gas can. No explosion. I saw this episode too. They tried pretty hard to get it to ignite, but couldn't. But I don't doubt that with the right vac under just the right conditions it could explode. And of course anyone doing this with a shop vac is an idiot. Reminds me of a teacher back in high school. He decided to use a shop vac to suck water out of his swimming pool, which might not be such a bad idea, if there was a small amount on the bottom of the pool. But he did it by taking the top part of the vacuum and holding it while standing in the pool water, thereby electrocuting himself. Test 3: Creating a Jet-engine out of Vacuum Parts Tory went to A&G Vacuum shop to pick up some more vacuums. A&G Vacuum was the site of Adam's facial run-in with a vacuum motor (Adam decided to stick his face near a motor, which pulled in and chopped up his lip). The Vacuum Man showed Tory an older vacuum that was capable of sparking fumes into a fire. This proved that it's possible for a vacuum to catch on fire, but it didn't turn into a jet engine. With this in mind, Tory was tasked with replicating the results of the myth, i.e. creating a jet-engine out of vacuum parts. Tory's design: * Vacuum motor sucks in air into a tube * Fuel injector made from a propane ring from a propane stove * Flame catcher made from a conical strainer * Fans at back Tory: "There are going to be a lot of engineers out there going, 'What the hell is he doing?' and I'm asking myself that on a moment-by- moment basis, 'What the hell am I doing?'" Tory's vacuum-based jet-engine was hung up chamber with an ignitor. First try: no ignition. Tory moved the ignitor to the end of the engine. Second try: still no ignition. Tory then tried an open flame at the end of the chamber: finally, ignition. There was a tiny, tiny bit of thrust when the vacuum motor started, but for the most part it just tossed flames around the chamber. Jamie's explanation: "The whole concept of a vacuum cleaner being a jet engine is all wrong. It goes against the principles that make jet engines. Vacuum cleaner create vacuums, that's low pressure. A jet engine works by creating more pressure, which completes the compression, so it's just not practical." mythbusted http://tinyurl.com/2sclx7 |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 17, 3:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 17, 11:14 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. Shop-Vac Jet Engine Myth: A guy was cleaning his pool and heard an explosion. He went to his neighbor's house -- his neighbor was using a shop-vac to get the sediment off the bottom of the gas tank in his boat. The fumes went through the shop-vac and turned it into a turbine engine. Test 1: Shop-Vac + Gas Can They put a small amount of gas in a gas can so that it was mostly full of fumes. They hooked it up to a shop-vac for five minutes to see if they could get an explosion. No explosion. It turns out that the shop-vac that they had chosen, like most new shop-vacs, has a safety featu the motor is isolated from the tank and air running through the tank, so the motor can't spark the fumes. Test 2: Short-circuited shop-vac + Gas Can By accident, they short-circuited their shop-vac parts, sending sparks everywhere. Happy with this discovery, they decide to rig a worst-case shop-vac: short-circuit and a hole drilled through to allow the spark to reach the fumes. They also added more gas to the gas can. No explosion. Test 3: Creating a Jet-engine out of Vacuum Parts Tory went to A&G Vacuum shop to pick up some more vacuums. A&G Vacuum was the site of Adam's facial run-in with a vacuum motor (Adam decided to stick his face near a motor, which pulled in and chopped up his lip). The Vacuum Man showed Tory an older vacuum that was capable of sparking fumes into a fire. This proved that it's possible for a vacuum to catch on fire, but it didn't turn into a jet engine. With this in mind, Tory was tasked with replicating the results of the myth, i.e. creating a jet-engine out of vacuum parts. Tory's design: * Vacuum motor sucks in air into a tube * Fuel injector made from a propane ring from a propane stove * Flame catcher made from a conical strainer * Fans at back Tory: "There are going to be a lot of engineers out there going, 'What the hell is he doing?' and I'm asking myself that on a moment-by- moment basis, 'What the hell am I doing?'" Tory's vacuum-based jet-engine was hung up chamber with an ignitor. First try: no ignition. Tory moved the ignitor to the end of the engine. Second try: still no ignition. Tory then tried an open flame at the end of the chamber: finally, ignition. There was a tiny, tiny bit of thrust when the vacuum motor started, but for the most part it just tossed flames around the chamber. Jamie's explanation: "The whole concept of a vacuum cleaner being a jet engine is all wrong. It goes against the principles that make jet engines. Vacuum cleaner create vacuums, that's low pressure. A jet engine works by creating more pressure, which completes the compression, so it's just not practical." mythbusted http://tinyurl.com/2sclx7 It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Right after we installed a wood stove 30 years ago, I saw my wife vacuuming up ashes around it. I pointed out what would happen if just one little spark was to be sucked up. Harry K |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 18, 11:21 am, Harry K wrote:
On Nov 17, 3:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Nov 17, 11:14 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 17, 10:53 am, Ron wrote: On Nov 15, 10:09 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Evidently not. Who knew? "A man using a vacuum cleaner to suck gasoline out of a vehicle was burned and his house damaged when the fuel exploded, the Albuquerque Fire Department said." http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/nov...lbuquerque-man... Well, there was an episode of "Mythbusters" were they *tried* to get a vacuum cleaner (wet/dry) to blowup using this method and nothing happened. Shop-Vac Jet Engine Myth: A guy was cleaning his pool and heard an explosion. He went to his neighbor's house -- his neighbor was using a shop-vac to get the sediment off the bottom of the gas tank in his boat. The fumes went through the shop-vac and turned it into a turbine engine. Test 1: Shop-Vac + Gas Can They put a small amount of gas in a gas can so that it was mostly full of fumes. They hooked it up to a shop-vac for five minutes to see if they could get an explosion. No explosion. It turns out that the shop-vac that they had chosen, like most new shop-vacs, has a safety featu the motor is isolated from the tank and air running through the tank, so the motor can't spark the fumes. Test 2: Short-circuited shop-vac + Gas Can By accident, they short-circuited their shop-vac parts, sending sparks everywhere. Happy with this discovery, they decide to rig a worst-case shop-vac: short-circuit and a hole drilled through to allow the spark to reach the fumes. They also added more gas to the gas can. No explosion. Test 3: Creating a Jet-engine out of Vacuum Parts Tory went to A&G Vacuum shop to pick up some more vacuums. A&G Vacuum was the site of Adam's facial run-in with a vacuum motor (Adam decided to stick his face near a motor, which pulled in and chopped up his lip). The Vacuum Man showed Tory an older vacuum that was capable of sparking fumes into a fire. This proved that it's possible for a vacuum to catch on fire, but it didn't turn into a jet engine. With this in mind, Tory was tasked with replicating the results of the myth, i.e. creating a jet-engine out of vacuum parts. Tory's design: * Vacuum motor sucks in air into a tube * Fuel injector made from a propane ring from a propane stove * Flame catcher made from a conical strainer * Fans at back Tory: "There are going to be a lot of engineers out there going, 'What the hell is he doing?' and I'm asking myself that on a moment-by- moment basis, 'What the hell am I doing?'" Tory's vacuum-based jet-engine was hung up chamber with an ignitor. First try: no ignition. Tory moved the ignitor to the end of the engine. Second try: still no ignition. Tory then tried an open flame at the end of the chamber: finally, ignition. There was a tiny, tiny bit of thrust when the vacuum motor started, but for the most part it just tossed flames around the chamber. Jamie's explanation: "The whole concept of a vacuum cleaner being a jet engine is all wrong. It goes against the principles that make jet engines. Vacuum cleaner create vacuums, that's low pressure. A jet engine works by creating more pressure, which completes the compression, so it's just not practical." mythbusted http://tinyurl.com/2sclx7 It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Right after we installed a wood stove 30 years ago, I saw my wife vacuuming up ashes around it. I pointed out what would happen if just one little spark was to be sucked up. Harry K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell us...what would happen if just one little spark was to be sucked up? |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
Well nothing happened. So what's the big deal? Watching plastic burn?
s "Ron" wrote in message ... On Nov 17, 10:47 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Nov 17, 10:27 pm, Ron wrote: On Nov 17, 6:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y Unbelievable, especially with kids around. Kids *around*? It was kids that were doing it. Did you hear one kid say "We definitely can't tell Mom and Dad?" What I meant was, there seemed to be two "older kids" around and then two younger ones around. I would have to watch it again to be exactly sure. |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
it burns a hole in the bag.
s "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... Tell us...what would happen if just one little spark was to be sucked up? |
OK to use wet-dry vac to siphon gas?
On Nov 18, 2:27 pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Well nothing happened. So what's the big deal? Watching plastic burn? s "Ron" wrote in message ... On Nov 17, 10:47 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Nov 17, 10:27 pm, Ron wrote: On Nov 17, 6:12 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote: It may not have become a jet engine, but it did make a pretty decent flame thrower. Check out this video..it's worth waiting until 4:08 in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2K42GbDN1Y Unbelievable, especially with kids around. Kids *around*? It was kids that were doing it. Did you hear one kid say "We definitely can't tell Mom and Dad?" What I meant was, there seemed to be two "older kids" around and then two younger ones around. I would have to watch it again to be exactly sure.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you watch it up to and past 4:08 when it turned into a pretty decent flame thrower for few seconds? |
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