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Dottie October 16th 07 11:58 PM

Plumbing Question
 
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


Doug Miller October 17th 07 12:08 AM

Plumbing Question
 
In article . com, Dottie wrote:
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.

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Joe October 17th 07 12:08 AM

Plumbing Question
 
On Oct 16, 5:58 pm, Dottie wrote:
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


The flapper valve may be trying to deal with a corroded out of round
seat, valve seat, that is. The fix would be to replace with a more
complete assembly which could include most of the hardware in the
tank. Drain it, inspect carefully, then look for an assembly
compatible with your unit. Good luck.

Joe


Toller October 17th 07 12:10 AM

Plumbing Question
 

"Dottie" wrote in message
ups.com...
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.

I hope someone has better advice for you than I do!
A couple times I had to replace the flappy twice before it worked.



** Frank ** October 17th 07 01:34 AM

Plumbing Question
 

"Dottie" wrote in message
ups.com...
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


Make sure you don't have an hairline crack somewhere. You could test out the
tank with dye and see where the leak goes. Usually its the flapper. On one
unit, I had to replace the flapper 4 times before I found a good one. Next
could be the flapper seat. The seats today are plastic, years ago you could
get a stainless steel seat.

And then you could get a Toto and forget the whole thing. I only buy Totos
now.



jim October 17th 07 02:04 AM

Plumbing Question
 
On Oct 16, 7:34 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
"Dottie" wrote in message

ups.com...

The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


Make sure you don't have an hairline crack somewhere. You could test out the
tank with dye and see where the leak goes. Usually its the flapper. On one
unit, I had to replace the flapper 4 times before I found a good one. Next
could be the flapper seat. The seats today are plastic, years ago you could
get a stainless steel seat.

And then you could get a Toto and forget the whole thing. I only buy Totos
now.


Before you put the flapper in put in warm water for 10 mins then
lightly hold it down to the seat of the unit this usaually helps it to
seat. Don't know about Toto as no one here seems to be able to buy
them, haven't ever had to buy more than 1 flapper but then Ive only
installed 2or3 hundred in 37 yrs


** Frank ** October 17th 07 02:36 AM

Plumbing Question
 

"jim" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 16, 7:34 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
"Dottie" wrote in message

ups.com...

The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


Make sure you don't have an hairline crack somewhere. You could test out
the
tank with dye and see where the leak goes. Usually its the flapper. On
one
unit, I had to replace the flapper 4 times before I found a good one.
Next
could be the flapper seat. The seats today are plastic, years ago you
could
get a stainless steel seat.

And then you could get a Toto and forget the whole thing. I only buy
Totos
now.


Before you put the flapper in put in warm water for 10 mins then
lightly hold it down to the seat of the unit this usaually helps it to
seat. Don't know about Toto as no one here seems to be able to buy
them, haven't ever had to buy more than 1 flapper but then Ive only
installed 2or3 hundred in 37 yrs


I guess I'm a newbie, had only installed a little more than a dozen. Thanks
for the tip.



** Frank ** October 17th 07 02:45 AM

Plumbing Question
 

Don't know about Toto as no one here seems to be able to buy
them, haven't ever had to buy more than 1 flapper but then Ive only
installed 2or3 hundred in 37 yrs


Here is one online
http://www.performancetoilets.com/in...UYago dtkXDew

The low end Toto is not that expensive - about $250 and well worth it. I'm
in the Bay Area and found a few local places that stock Toto.



Steve Barker LT[_2_] October 17th 07 03:24 AM

Plumbing Question
 
New flapper is probably worthless. I went through several in one day, 'till
i found one that would seal.

s


"Dottie" wrote in message
ups.com...
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.




Bill[_9_] October 17th 07 12:17 PM

Plumbing Question
 
Inside the tank is a hollow tube. If the water is reaching the top of this
tube each time the tank fills up, the water level is set too high.

Adjust so water stops flowing to just below the top of this tube.

City water pressure can change. You may get a blip of high pressure and this
makes it run a little. But it all flows out the top of the tube. By
adjusting so the water stops short of the top of the tube, when you get a
blip in water pressure, the tank will fill a little higher and then stop.

Also clean the flapper and the round part it sits on with a paper towel.
Sometime a little piece of dirt can keep it up a bit.

Flush a few times and watch it in action. See what it is doing. Chains too
long can get in the way (reduce length of chain), and flapper/hinges may not
be right kind for your tank. Maybe a differently designed flapper will work
better for your tank. There are different kinds of flappers at the hardware
store. Some work better than others.


"Dottie" wrote in message
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.




Chris Lewis October 17th 07 03:12 PM

Plumbing Question
 
According to jim :
On Oct 16, 7:34 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
"Dottie" wrote in message


ups.com...


The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.


Make sure you don't have an hairline crack somewhere. You could test out the
tank with dye and see where the leak goes. Usually its the flapper. On one
unit, I had to replace the flapper 4 times before I found a good one. Next
could be the flapper seat. The seats today are plastic, years ago you could
get a stainless steel seat.


And then you could get a Toto and forget the whole thing. I only buy Totos
now.


Before you put the flapper in put in warm water for 10 mins then
lightly hold it down to the seat of the unit this usaually helps it to
seat.


Make that warm vinegar. If there's any mineral deposits, they'll come off.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

jim October 17th 07 09:28 PM

Plumbing Question
 
On Oct 17, 6:17 am, "Bill" wrote:
Inside the tank is a hollow tube. If the water is reaching the top of this
tube each time the tank fills up, the water level is set too high.

Adjust so water stops flowing to just below the top of this tube.

City water pressure can change. You may get a blip of high pressure and this
makes it run a little. But it all flows out the top of the tube. By
adjusting so the water stops short of the top of the tube, when you get a
blip in water pressure, the tank will fill a little higher and then stop.

Also clean the flapper and the round part it sits on with a paper towel.
Sometime a little piece of dirt can keep it up a bit.

Flush a few times and watch it in action. See what it is doing. Chains too
long can get in the way (reduce length of chain), and flapper/hinges may not
be right kind for your tank. Maybe a differently designed flapper will work
better for your tank. There are different kinds of flappers at the hardware
store. Some work better than others.



"Dottie" wrote in message
The commode in my bathroom has started running again ... it will just
run a short time, like some of the water has leaked out and it is
topping off. I just put a new flapper in there about a month or so
back ... what else would cause this problem? At the price of water
here I don't want to waste any. Thanks.- Hide quoted text -


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Frank wasn't meant to be smart just pointing out that like anything if
done right it should work, Also bang on about the dye alot of people
keep the chain to tight also Cheers



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