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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv
satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... Thanks Alvin |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:53:27 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: wrote: ...snip Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... They are part of an equipment package provided by DirectTV in exchange for a specified contract. Technically, it would belong to the company if the renters did not complete the terms of their contract. I purchased a dish and receiver in a big box store years ago. I seriously doubt DTV would want to "mess" with the old stuff. Rupert is busy :-) -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
Oren wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:53:27 -0700, "Dave Bugg" wrote: wrote: ...snip Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... They are part of an equipment package provided by DirectTV in exchange for a specified contract. Technically, it would belong to the company if the renters did not complete the terms of their contract. I purchased a dish and receiver in a big box store years ago. I seriously doubt DTV would want to "mess" with the old stuff. Rupert is busy :-) Yup; I agree. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:40:16 -0500, alvinamorey wrote:
I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... Thanks Alvin Just call DD and ask them if they want it. That way you dont have to deal with the hassle. Let DD handle it. I dont think you can withhold it in lieu of money owed. If there is a renters association where you are call them. Ask them what the laws in your area say. -- coffee Linux Registered User #449534 |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:39:02 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: Oren wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:53:27 -0700, "Dave Bugg" wrote: wrote: ...snip Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... They are part of an equipment package provided by DirectTV in exchange for a specified contract. Technically, it would belong to the company if the renters did not complete the terms of their contract. I purchased a dish and receiver in a big box store years ago. I seriously doubt DTV would want to "mess" with the old stuff. Rupert is busy :-) Yup; I agree. We could always ask OJ. He paid DTV/Rupert 34K for the hacked cards :) -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
coffee wrote:
I dont think you can withhold it in lieu of money owed. He didn't give that as justification for keeping the dish. He had written, "Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord)." -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:53:27 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: coffee wrote: I dont think you can withhold it in lieu of money owed. He didn't give that as justification for keeping the dish. He had written, "Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord)." My leases had an "abandonment" clause, after X days. -- Oren "Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly." |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
dish network owns the LNBs, and receivers, everything else is low
value and stays with the home |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:02:53 -0400, Terry
wrote: They give them away for free. From what I understand if you don't have a card that has a valid subscription, they won't work anyway. Cards will not; also, transcend receivers - memory/EPROM. The card is a real computer. Initialize it and it writes to the card - associates a receiver to a card, thus subscription. They gave millions of dishes away. -- Oren "I don't have anything against work. I just figure, why deprive somebody who really loves it." |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Oct 12, 10:39?pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: wrote: dish network owns the LNBs, and receivers, everything else is low value and stays with the home Take another peek at the subject line and get back to us on that. I don't believe Dish owns anything mentioned here in this case. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com my point is that i have specific knowledge of dish having used to be a dealer, and direct is likely the same. the dishes are low priced cheap, and as such companies dont care, return and refurbish will cost more than a new one, and who would want a used dish on their home? |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
wrote:
I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... I am NOT an attorney (although I often play one in saloons when I've had enought to drink). Your tenant made a leasehold improvement. Unless there is a written agreement to the contrary, the improvement belongs to you. Direct TV certainly knows this and probably doesn't care as they would hope the next tenant will subscribe. OTOH your former tenants may be being dunned by DT for not skipping out and need the box to avoid some payment. Call DT and get the straight scoop. Dick |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:22:00 -0700, Oren wrote:
"I don't have anything against work. I just figure, why deprive somebody who really loves it." or......Hard work never killed anyone, but why take chances? :) |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
I'm not any attorney...hehe..... (more like h.s. student), but my uncle and
Grandpa are, and my uncle was reading this almost out loud a minute ago, from behind my chair to my Grandpa for old-time-sake laughs...hehe.. AND he claims that "if" you gave ANY kind of prior WARNING of this item being left behind and THEY did NOT respond, they have pretty much GIVEN-UP ALL RIGHTS to such property. Especially if they have been informed of leaving such property in person by mail, E-mail, msgr, or attorney. If more than once, he claims, they have undoubtedly given up any property claim. He says, UNLESS he has been paying satellite receiving bill for that item (by serial) this WHOLE time, he has made it the property of anyone who claims it, just as if left in garbage, street side. Dunno if that helps any...doubtful..., but I'm sure the bill would be devastatingly higher in person...lol.... He only asks what "exact" U.S. state or territory you are in (USA, CANADA,U.K.,RU., ETC,..) to be "absolutely" positive. He's telling me what to type, or atleast watching over this one...lol... Joey near N.E. FL(USA) "Dick Adams" wrote in message ... wrote: I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... I am NOT an attorney (although I often play one in saloons when I've had enought to drink). Your tenant made a leasehold improvement. Unless there is a written agreement to the contrary, the improvement belongs to you. Direct TV certainly knows this and probably doesn't care as they would hope the next tenant will subscribe. OTOH your former tenants may be being dunned by DT for not skipping out and need the box to avoid some payment. Call DT and get the straight scoop. Dick |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
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Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
An old dish is worthless. The latest dishes have 5 LNBs and have to be
aimed to receive all 5 satellites. The OP was only concerned about the dish (the box was probably taken by the renter). ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
---MIKE--- wrote:
An old dish is worthless. The latest dishes have 5 LNBs and have to be aimed to receive all 5 satellites. Only if you want hi-def channels. Dual LNBs are still fine for standard def channels. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:17:07 -0400, "SyKoTaBoY"
wrote: I'm not any attorney...hehe..... (more like h.s. student), but my uncle and Grandpa are, and my uncle was reading this almost out loud a minute ago, from behind my chair to my Grandpa for old-time-sake laughs...hehe.. AND he claims that "if" you gave ANY kind of prior WARNING of this item being left behind and THEY did NOT respond, they have pretty much GIVEN-UP ALL RIGHTS to such property. Especially if they have been informed of leaving such property in person by mail, E-mail, msgr, or attorney. If more than once, he claims, they have undoubtedly given up any property claim. He says, UNLESS he has been paying satellite receiving bill for that item (by serial) this WHOLE time, he has made it the property of anyone who claims it, just as if left in garbage, street side. Dunno if that helps any...doubtful..., but I'm sure the bill would be devastatingly higher in person...lol.... He only asks what "exact" U.S. state or territory you are in (USA, CANADA,U.K.,RU., ETC,..) to be "absolutely" positive. He's telling me what to type, or atleast watching over this one...lol... Joey near N.E. FL(USA) "Dick Adams" wrote in message ... wrote: I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... I am NOT an attorney (although I often play one in saloons when I've had enought to drink). Your tenant made a leasehold improvement. Unless there is a written agreement to the contrary, the improvement belongs to you. Direct TV certainly knows this and probably doesn't care as they would hope the next tenant will subscribe. OTOH your former tenants may be being dunned by DT for not skipping out and need the box to avoid some payment. Call DT and get the straight scoop. Dick This is in Wisconsin, USA. I agree with what you said. Not to mention that my lease with the tenants clearly stated that any property attached to the building becomes a permanent part of the building when the tenant leaves. It also states that any property left in the home when the tenant moves, (furniture, etc) is considered abandoned and the landlord can dispose of it, (and goes on to explain that the landlord may charge the tenant for disposal, etc) This is not the exact wording used in the lease, but it explains what is done with things left by tenants. In other words, once the tenant moves, whatever they leave behind is no longer theirs. This problem tenant moved a year ago. Besides the dish on the house, (not the receiver box) they left several garden tools in the garden shed (which are in my garage now), and a whole bunch of junked furniture, and other garbage, which cost me about $250 to dispose of. I removed the dish and the cable, and had to caulk the hole in the house where the cable entered. I now have the dish at home (dont need it), and the cable I will save even if I toss the dish in my scrap pile. I took the whole thing off the house, bracket and all. If another tenant wants a dish, they can use the same holes, but I will likely sell the property before I rent it again. Being a landlord is not my cup of tea. I mainly asked this question because I am sure this tenant will call again, even though I told them numerous times that they no longer own the damn thing, and if they attempt to enter the property, they will be prosecuted. However, they are persistent and annoying, not to mention really dumb....... At least now, if they call, the thing is gone and I'll just tell them the company must have taken it...... My main reason to remove the thing was not so much the appearance of it, but I am tired of hearing about it. Plus that is one less thing for the siding company to remove when I get the place resided before I list it with a realtor. Alvin |
Who owns a Direct Tv Dish? (the company or the home owner)
Tell your renters to call me or any number of X-direct tv subscribers.
Direct tv apparently leaves them in place as advertisment. They are worthless. wrote in message ... I have a rental property. The tenants moved out and left a Direct Tv satellite dish on the house. Their lease states that after they give notice to move, and have finally left the premises, any items left on the property become the property of myself (the landlord). These tenants moved a year ago. They keep calling me and saying they want their satellite dish. I have made them aware that they no longer own the thing, and if they attempt to remove it, I will have them prosecuted for trespassing and theft (they left on very bad terms, owing rent money, etc). Yesterday I was doing some work on the building and I removed the dish, and brought it home with me. First off, I dont want it hanging on the house for no reason, secondly, I dont have to deal with these idiots calling me anymore, and third, I may be able to sell it, "IF" they become property of the homeowner........ That's where my question arises. Are these rented from the Direct Tv company, or do the homeowner (user) buy them? I dont want to sell it if it belongs to the company. Otherwise it goes in my scrap metal pile.... Thanks Alvin |
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