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Joe September 25th 07 07:46 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


N8N September 25th 07 07:53 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 2:46 pm, Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


either run it dry, or use Sta-Bil and fill it completely.

nate


dpb September 25th 07 07:58 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
N8N wrote:
On Sep 25, 2:46 pm, Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


either run it dry, or use Sta-Bil and fill it completely.


Or just let it go...I've never had a lick of trouble in just cutting off
the supply at the bowl and letting it run out. A fresh dollop in the
carb bowl next spring and it fires right up and rest is just fine.

If storing for a _very_ long time like a year or more, I'd go to more
trouble, but just over a few months winter period, not so much.

That said, either of the other alternatives isn't _that_ much trouble,
so do whatever feels good to you... :)

$0.02, etc., ...

--

[email protected] September 25th 07 08:20 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


On Sep 25, 2:58 pm, dpb wrote:
N8N wrote:
On Sep 25, 2:46 pm, Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ


Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.


http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


either run it dry, or use Sta-Bil and fill it completely.


Or just let it go...I've never had a lick of trouble in just cutting off
the supply at the bowl and letting it run out. A fresh dollop in the
carb bowl next spring and it fires right up and rest is just fine.

If storing for a _very_ long time like a year or more, I'd go to more
trouble, but just over a few months winter period, not so much.

That said, either of the other alternatives isn't _that_ much trouble,
so do whatever feels good to you... :)

$0.02, etc., ...

--




RickH September 25th 07 08:47 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 1:46 pm, Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


I've had better luck running the fuel line dry.



JoeSpareBedroom September 25th 07 09:17 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


Do you still have the instructions for YOUR mower?



frank megaweege September 25th 07 09:33 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 3:20 pm, wrote:
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


I've never done anything in the 7 years I've had my mower. Just leave
whatever gas is in it, top it off when I get it back out in the
spring. All I've ever noticed is that it takes a couple of extra
pulls that first day.



The Freon Cowboy September 25th 07 10:42 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
cheapest solution is to run it dry

Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before



Pete C. September 25th 07 10:53 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
Joe wrote:

I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


My normal technique is to shut off the fuel valve and run the carb dry,
while keeping the tank full with gas and Sta-Bil. I don't generally have
any problems. I think keeping the tank full with stabilized fuel helps
prevent rust in the tank if it's a metal tank, obviously not a factor
for a plastic one. Running the carb dry keeps gunk from forming as the
gas slowly evaporates.

Phisherman September 25th 07 11:55 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:46:15 -0000, Joe wrote:

I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956



My father used to drain the mower tank, fill with kerosene, and store
for the winter months. The mower still runs after 40 years. I fill
the tank, add Stabil, run the engine for a few minutes, then store.

JoeSpareBedroom September 26th 07 12:24 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:46:15 -0000, Joe wrote:

I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956



My father used to drain the mower tank, fill with kerosene, and store
for the winter months. The mower still runs after 40 years. I fill
the tank, add Stabil, run the engine for a few minutes, then store.



How do you manage the kerosene in the spring? Siphon it out? Or...?



willshak September 26th 07 01:01 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
on 9/25/2007 5:42 PM The Freon Cowboy said the following:
cheapest solution is to run it dry



At $3.00 a gallon?
Joe wrote:

I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before





--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

JoeSpareBedroom September 26th 07 01:07 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
"willshak" wrote in message
...
on 9/25/2007 5:42 PM The Freon Cowboy said the following:
cheapest solution is to run it dry



At $3.00 a gallon?



How about watching the weather and planning ahead - not totally filling the
tank when you know you're doing the last mow of the season?



Toller September 26th 07 01:16 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 

"frank megaweege" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 25, 3:20 pm, wrote:
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


I've never done anything in the 7 years I've had my mower. Just leave
whatever gas is in it, top it off when I get it back out in the
spring. All I've ever noticed is that it takes a couple of extra
pulls that first day.

Then you have gotten lucky. Gasoline generally won't be good after 6 months
and can gum up the fuel line to boot. Keep doing it if you like, but please
don't recommend it to others.



Dave Bugg September 26th 07 02:12 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?


I've always stored my gas-powered tools filled with gas. I always use
gasoline that has been treated with Sta-bil.
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com



jim September 26th 07 02:15 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 7:16 pm, "Toller" wrote:
"frank megaweege" wrote in message

ups.com... On Sep 25, 3:20 pm, wrote:
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


I've never done anything in the 7 years I've had my mower. Just leave
whatever gas is in it, top it off when I get it back out in the
spring. All I've ever noticed is that it takes a couple of extra
pulls that first day.


Then you have gotten lucky. Gasoline generally won't be good after 6 months
and can gum up the fuel line to boot. Keep doing it if you like, but please
don't recommend it to others.



I have always drained or run all fuel from any moter that I own and
have always had them start first pull after storage was taught this by
a master mechanic


Frank Boettcher September 26th 07 02:38 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:33:36 -0000, frank megaweege
wrote:

On Sep 25, 3:20 pm, wrote:
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


I've never done anything in the 7 years I've had my mower. Just leave
whatever gas is in it, top it off when I get it back out in the
spring. All I've ever noticed is that it takes a couple of extra
pulls that first day.


Same here only make that seventeen years. John Deere small rider,
mower, not tractor. Honda tiller five years, Honda pressure washer
used very intermittently four years, Sears edger with a Briggs and
Stratton twenty two years.

Guess I've been lucky too?

Frank

Edwin Pawlowski September 26th 07 03:20 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 

"willshak" wrote in message
...
on 9/25/2007 5:42 PM The Freon Cowboy said the following:
cheapest solution is to run it dry



At $3.00 a gallon?


Yes, it may cost you 50¢ if you don't plan ahead a bit.

I've usually drained mine, but with stabilizer, it can last over the winter.
Come to think of it, my mower has not had gas in it for two years now. I
pay the neighbor to do mine now.



hobbes September 26th 07 11:26 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 9:12 pm, "Dave Bugg" wrote:
Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?


I've always stored my gas-powered tools filled with gas. I always use
gasoline that has been treated with Sta-bil.
--
Davewww.davebbq.com


Me too. I usally put the Stabil into the empty petrol container first
before I go to the filling station. That way the Stabil is mixed well
and acts on the "fresh" petrol. I have never had any issues with
petrol deposits. I just store the mower over winter basically "as is".
Half full, full or empty ....

Best, Mike.


The Daring Dufas September 26th 07 11:48 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
Joe wrote:
I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


Many an old fart will use this stuff:

http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/

http://landing.turtlewax.com/sept2007/

If I'm going to store an engine for a long period,
I run it dry then crank it with this oil in the fuel
system to coat everything. Then remove the spark plug,
squirt some into the cylinder and crank the engine a
few times before replacing the plug. Of course a tarp
over it to keep the dirt and dust off and you're done.

TDD

The Freon Cowboy September 26th 07 11:57 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
whens the last time you purchased "sta-bil" ????
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"willshak" wrote in message

on 9/25/2007 5:42 PM The Freon
Cowboy said the following:A cheapest solution is to run it drye@4 At
$3.00 a gallon?f3Yes, it may cost you 50¢ if you don't plan ahead a
bit.weI've usually drained mine, but with stabilizer, it can last over the
winter. 6Come to think of it, my mower has not had gas in it for two years
now. I npay the neighbor to do mine now.




willshak September 26th 07 02:16 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
on 9/26/2007 6:57 AM The Freon Cowboy said the following:
whens the last time you purchased "sta-bil" ????


A 10 oz bottle of Sta-Bil costs around $5.
10 oz will treat 25 gallons of gas.
How much gas does a lawn mower hold? One half Gal at most ?
That works out to be 50 years of Sta-Bil use from one bottle.
$5 divided by 50 = 10 cents per year.





"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:

"willshak" wrote in message

on 9/25/2007 5:42 PM The Freon
Cowboy said the following:A cheapest solution is to run it drye@4 At
$3.00 a gallon?f3Yes, it may cost you 50¢ if you don't plan ahead a
bit.weI've usually drained mine, but with stabilizer, it can last over the
winter. 6Come to think of it, my mower has not had gas in it for two years
now. I npay the neighbor to do mine now.






--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

John van Gurp September 26th 07 03:32 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 


On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Joe wrote:

I've heard that you should use up all of the gas in the tank before
it's stored for the winter but I watched this Youtube video and the
guy says Briggs and Stratton recommends to fill the tank before
storage. What is the CW on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_vg5zvcrQ

Here's the Briggs and Stratton site which says to only do so if you
use their special additive.

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/dis...sp?DocID=69956


Do what Briggs and Stratton recommends. Put fuel preservative in the tank
and fill it up. An empty tank is subject to condensation.

John

[email protected] September 26th 07 04:35 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
either way,treat that last tank of fuel with stabilizer. when you
run one out of gas,there is still some fuel in the carb bowl that needs
the stabilizer so it wont turn to gum.

http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm


JimR[_2_] September 26th 07 11:55 PM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 

"willshak" wrote in message
...
on 9/26/2007 6:57 AM The Freon Cowboy said the following:
whens the last time you purchased "sta-bil" ????


A 10 oz bottle of Sta-Bil costs around $5.
10 oz will treat 25 gallons of gas. How much gas does a lawn mower hold?
One half Gal at most ?
That works out to be 50 years of Sta-Bil use from one bottle.

[snip]

Note -- Stabil has a shelf life -- I don't know what the spec says, but I do
know that a two-year-old unopened bottle of Stabil had deteriorated and had
to be thrown out, with black chunks of gunk floating in the liquid, so the
shelf life is apparently less than two years --

I wonder if there's a product which can be used to prolong the life of
Stabil --



TH September 27th 07 12:12 AM

Store lawn mower with full or empty tank?
 
On Sep 25, 6:38 pm, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:33:36 -0000, frank megaweege

wrote:
On Sep 25, 3:20 pm, wrote:
Let it run dry then pull the cord a couple times. Since doing that I
havent had power equipment fail to start next season.


I've never done anything in the 7 years I've had my mower. Just leave
whatever gas is in it, top it off when I get it back out in the
spring. All I've ever noticed is that it takes a couple of extra
pulls that first day.


Same here only make that seventeen years. John Deere small rider,
mower, not tractor. Honda tiller five years, Honda pressure washer
used very intermittently four years, Sears edger with a Briggs and
Stratton twenty two years.

Guess I've been lucky too?

Frank


Well I did this with my old Honda mower for 20 years with no problem.
Then I buy a new one 2 years ago and this spring the carburetor was
wrecked from storing it with old gas. Maybe it was some cheap gas I
used, I don't know, but It's a lot safer to just put the stabilizer in
or drain it. I know I learned my lesson.




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