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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
In order to meet the demand to save energy the US government will be
adding a tax to the price of all lightbulbs, effective January 1, 2008. All bulbs will be charged one dollar per watt tax. Thus the price of a 100 watt bulb will be about $101.00 (the one dollar is the cost of the bulb itself). This tax will also be added to all electrical appliances, tools, motors and other equipment. For example, a toaster which generally draws 1250 watts will have a tax of $1250 added to the price of the toaster. An electric range could cost as much as $55,000. You will be required to pay this tax upon purchase. As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Walter K. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining
and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
kpg* wrote:
As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"HeyBub" wrote in
: kpg* wrote: As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. sigh What happened to the America I grew up in? Something needs to change. I hope you people are paying attention out there. We take freedom for granted, but it's not a right, it must be earned and defended. I'm not talking about Iraq, who knows if that's the right or wrong way to go, I'm talking about those dimwits in congress and sitting on the bench. Don't get me started. Oh, too late. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"kpg*" wrote in
20: "HeyBub" wrote in : kpg* wrote: As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. That idiot was always trying to enact that crap,and nobody ever paid him any attention.(Daniel Moynihan,btw.) sigh What happened to the America I grew up in? Something needs to change. I hope you people are paying attention out there. We take freedom for granted, but it's not a right, it must be earned and defended. I'm not talking about Iraq, who knows if that's the right or wrong way to go, I'm talking about those dimwits in congress and sitting on the bench. Well,there's a LOT of dimwits that ELECT those Congressional dimwits. Socialists. Don't get me started. Oh, too late. Don't tell me you actually BELIEVE that troll? A $100 tax on a DOLLAR item? "By 2010,all homes will be inspected...." WHERE is your common sense? -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Don't tell me you actually BELIEVE that troll?
A $100 tax on a DOLLAR item? "By 2010,all homes will be inspected...." lol, of course not. Because that's not how it happens. The reality is our freedoms are eroded much slower than that; at a pace we hardly notice. I was taking the opportunity of this obviously exaggerated claim to point out that if if did happen all at once it would be outrageous and no one would stand for it. A tax on non-CF bulbs out of the question? I don't think so. Tax policy is used to mold society as our 'leaders' see fit. That is not their job, and that is not freedom. You are right about not feeding the trolls, however. Nevermind. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
YEp yep if you think that Daniel Moynihan is bad
how about this Major that NYC have he would like charge all who visit city below 86th. street $ 8.00 fee and truckers $ 26.00. what truckers should do make surcharge for any delivery $300.00 under 1 ton and $500.00 over 1-5, 5 ton and up $1000.00 no exceptions then let him dance jig "Jim Yanik" wrote in message ... "kpg*" wrote in 20: "HeyBub" wrote in : kpg* wrote: As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. That idiot was always trying to enact that crap,and nobody ever paid him any attention.(Daniel Moynihan,btw.) sigh What happened to the America I grew up in? Something needs to change. I hope you people are paying attention out there. We take freedom for granted, but it's not a right, it must be earned and defended. I'm not talking about Iraq, who knows if that's the right or wrong way to go, I'm talking about those dimwits in congress and sitting on the bench. Well,there's a LOT of dimwits that ELECT those Congressional dimwits. Socialists. Don't get me started. Oh, too late. Don't tell me you actually BELIEVE that troll? A $100 tax on a DOLLAR item? "By 2010,all homes will be inspected...." WHERE is your common sense? -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Tony wrote:
YEp yep if you think that Daniel Moynihan is bad how about this Major that NYC have he would like charge all who visit city below 86th. street $ 8.00 fee and truckers $ 26.00. London, England has had this type of thing for some time now. They want about $14/day. Since introducing the fee, private traffic has dropped nearly 40 percent, cyclists have nearly doubled and bus passengers have increased 50 percent. Interestingly enough, the American ambassador who took his post in July 205 refused to pay the fees. Including fines, the embassy owes around a quarter-million dollars. Chris |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:45:52 GMT, "kpg*" wrote Re
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax: lol, of course not. Because that's not how it happens. The reality is our freedoms are eroded much slower than that; at a pace we hardly notice. Right! If you are over 55, think back to when you were a kid and compare the freedoms our society had then vs. what we have now. It's not even close. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Chris Friesen wrote in
: Tony wrote: YEp yep if you think that Daniel Moynihan is bad how about this Major that NYC have he would like charge all who visit city below 86th. street $ 8.00 fee and truckers $ 26.00. London, England has had this type of thing for some time now. They want about $14/day. Since introducing the fee, private traffic has dropped nearly 40 percent, cyclists have nearly doubled and bus passengers have increased 50 percent. Interestingly enough, the American ambassador who took his post in July 205 refused to pay the fees. Including fines, the embassy owes around a quarter-million dollars. Chris How do they charge mopeds or small motorbikes? Or doesn't Britain have those? -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"Caesar Romano" wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:45:52 GMT, "kpg*" wrote Re Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax: lol, of course not. Because that's not how it happens. The reality is our freedoms are eroded much slower than that; at a pace we hardly notice. Right! If you are over 55, think back to when you were a kid and compare the freedoms our society had then vs. what we have now. It's not even close. As our children and grandchildren grow up under these restrictions, they think it is normal and they may add even more. Look at the number or government employees per private worker and how that has changed. Look at the number of people paying taxes versus the number collecting some sort of government check or aid. Look at the number of boneheads on the House of Representatives and how that has grown. We should consolidate some of the states and lower the number of people in Washington. From 50 states, we could whittle it down to about 25 or so. Like join Nebraska and the Dakotas together and dump four senators. One Carolina and two more senators are out of work. You get the idea. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"Uncle Monster" wrote in message ... wrote: In order to meet the demand to save energy the US government will be adding a tax to the price of all lightbulbs, effective January 1, 2008. All bulbs will be charged one dollar per watt tax. Thus the price of a 100 watt bulb will be about $101.00 (the one dollar is the cost of the bulb itself). This tax will also be added to all electrical appliances, tools, motors and other equipment. For example, a toaster which generally draws 1250 watts will have a tax of $1250 added to the price of the toaster. An electric range could cost as much as $55,000. You will be required to pay this tax upon purchase. As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Walter K. I also understand that in order to make this new tax more palatable, the government will now legalize the dope you are smoking. [8~{} Uncle Monster How did the OP's statement about a supposed tax on light bulbs turn into rants about everything but? Besides, you've been trolled. There has been no national legislation passed with such a tax -- or even proposed in Congress. TKM |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:37:23 GMT, "kpg*" wrote:
As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. Do these bullets contain lead? Lead is a hazardous material, which must be disposed of properly. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"TKM" wrote in message How did the OP's statement about a supposed tax on light bulbs turn into rants about everything but? Besides, you've been trolled. There has been no national legislation passed with such a tax -- or even proposed in Congress. TKM The original post was not so much a troll as it was some humor. Others just added on to it after that. Do you really think you are the only one that did not believe a $100 tax on light bulbs? |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Harry wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:37:23 GMT, "kpg*" wrote: As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. Do these bullets contain lead? Lead is a hazardous material, which must be disposed of properly. Can you think of a better way to dispose of them? Best regards, Bob |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"TKM" wrote in message How did the OP's statement about a supposed tax on light bulbs turn into rants about everything but? Besides, you've been trolled. There has been no national legislation passed with such a tax -- or even proposed in Congress. TKM The original post was not so much a troll as it was some humor. Others just added on to it after that. Do you really think you are the only one that did not believe a $100 tax on light bulbs? Maxwell Smart voice Would you believe a $2 tax? /MSV Bob |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"TKM" wrote in message How did the OP's statement about a supposed tax on light bulbs turn into rants about everything but? Besides, you've been trolled. There has been no national legislation passed with such a tax -- or even proposed in Congress. TKM The original post was not so much a troll as it was some humor. Others just added on to it after that. Do you really think you are the only one that did not believe a $100 tax on light bulbs? Too many people take themselves and things they see and read on the interweb too seriously. I must now get back to bottling my new and improved troll repellent. [8~{} Uncle Monster |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we
have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. And only a month's supply of Senators ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"TKM" wrote in message ... "Uncle Monster" wrote in message ... wrote: In order to meet the demand to save energy the US government will be adding a tax to the price of all lightbulbs, effective January 1, 2008. All bulbs will be charged one dollar per watt tax. Thus the price of a 100 watt bulb will be about $101.00 (the one dollar is the cost of the bulb itself). This tax will also be added to all electrical appliances, tools, motors and other equipment. For example, a toaster which generally draws 1250 watts will have a tax of $1250 added to the price of the toaster. An electric range could cost as much as $55,000. You will be required to pay this tax upon purchase. As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Walter K. I also understand that in order to make this new tax more palatable, the government will now legalize the dope you are smoking. [8~{} Uncle Monster How did the OP's statement about a supposed tax on light bulbs turn into rants about everything but? Besides, you've been trolled. There has been no national legislation passed with such a tax -- or even proposed in Congress. TKM Because some of us getting fed up with this *******s that get in power and then giving rust shaft to the people generating new taxes so they can steel more from the pot Tony |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Few years ago I have contacted my police department
at time I want dispose of some old ammo and guess they did not wanted I guess I will need to dispose of it into garbage Tony "Harry" wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:37:23 GMT, "kpg*" wrote: As of 2010, all homes will be inspected and all remaining and existing appliances and lights will also be taxed at the same rate per watt. Just so long as they don't start taxing bullets, cause that's what the home inspector is going to be seeing. Do these bullets contain lead? Lead is a hazardous material, which must be disposed of properly. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"nick hull" wrote in message .. . You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. And only a month's supply of Senators ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ NO no you got that wrong croocvks own the guns crooks are permitted to carry guns but free people must hide |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
In article k2yDi.4522$J96.3330@trnddc02,
"Tony" wrote: "nick hull" wrote in message .. . You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. And only a month's supply of Senators ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ NO no you got that wrong croocvks own the guns crooks are permitted to carry guns but free people must hide Which of course shows up why gun control laws don't work. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:36:33 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote: In article k2yDi.4522$J96.3330@trnddc02, "Tony" wrote: "nick hull" wrote in message .. . You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. And only a month's supply of Senators ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ NO no you got that wrong croocvks own the guns crooks are permitted to carry guns but free people must hide Which of course shows up why gun control laws don't work. The USA has 90 firearms per 100 people, the highest ratio in the world. Laws that are not enforced don't work, but that doesn't stop Congress from making more laws. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
In article ,
Phisherman wrote: The USA has 90 firearms per 100 people, the highest ratio in the world. Laws that are not enforced don't work, but that doesn't stop Congress from making more laws. Heck works well with Immigration (G&D&R). Studies show that those areas with the most Draconian personal gun laws also have the highest rates of gun-related violence. Of course, no one has yet answered my questions about the other relationship, which is that they tend to be big cities. More target-rich environments that many areas in Utah, Colorado, etc. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Phisherman wrote:
.... The USA has ...the highest ratio in the world. ... I heard somewhere just the other day (I don't recall precisely where, but do remember thinking at the time it seemed a little unusual so I'm wondering if it wasn't NPR's All Things Considered or something similar) that despite the above common assertion that other places have more -- seems like Israel was one of the other places specifically mentioned... -- |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
On Sep 5, 9:11 am, dpb wrote:
Phisherman wrote: ... The USA has ...the highest ratio in the world. ... I heard somewhere just the other day (I don't recall precisely where, but do remember thinking at the time it seemed a little unusual so I'm wondering if it wasn't NPR's All Things Considered or something similar) that despite the above common assertion that other places have more -- seems like Israel was one of the other places specifically mentioned... -- Does Switzerland still require every able bodied man to be trained in gun use? I heard gun ownership is high there too, which would certainly explain why it is a very low-crime country. I dont know, just asking, maybe somebody from there is reading. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message ... In article , Phisherman wrote: The USA has 90 firearms per 100 people, the highest ratio in the world. Laws that are not enforced don't work, but that doesn't stop Congress from making more laws. Heck works well with Immigration (G&D&R). Studies show that those areas with the most Draconian personal gun laws also have the highest rates of gun-related violence. Of course, no one has yet answered my questions about the other relationship, which is that they tend to be big cities. More target-rich environments that many areas in Utah, Colorado, etc. I don't know all the laws in this country but it seems to me that Cities that have laws making it illegal even to own the weapon of any kind has most killing and largest crime and as I said I don't know all the laws and rules but it sure don't make any sense to me |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
RickH wrote:
I heard gun ownership is high there too, which would certainly explain why it is a very low-crime country. Correlation doesn't imply causation. Maybe the fact that every male is militarily trained leads to both reduced crime and increased gun ownership. Maybe reduced crime is due to higher employment, population demographics, cultural bias, or something else entirely. Chris |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Jim Yanik wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote in : Tony wrote: YEp yep if you think that Daniel Moynihan is bad how about this Major that NYC have he would like charge all who visit city below 86th. street $ 8.00 fee and truckers $ 26.00. London, England has had this type of thing for some time now. They want about $14/day. Since introducing the fee, private traffic has dropped nearly 40 percent, cyclists have nearly doubled and bus passengers have increased 50 percent. Interestingly enough, the American ambassador who took his post in July 205 refused to pay the fees. Including fines, the embassy owes around a quarter-million dollars. Chris How do they charge mopeds or small motorbikes? Or doesn't Britain have those? That's what happens when there ought to be law types get in charge. The damned socialists have taken over England and are starting here with their traffic cameras, in the name of safety. It's all bull sh--. It's about the money. |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
. net: "Caesar Romano" wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:45:52 GMT, "kpg*" wrote Re Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax: lol, of course not. Because that's not how it happens. The reality is our freedoms are eroded much slower than that; at a pace we hardly notice. Right! If you are over 55, think back to when you were a kid and compare the freedoms our society had then vs. what we have now. It's not even close. As our children and grandchildren grow up under these restrictions, they think it is normal and they may add even more. Look at the number or government employees per private worker and how that has changed. Look at the number of people paying taxes versus the number collecting some sort of government check or aid. Look at the number of boneheads on the House of Representatives and how that has grown. The House grows according to population;seems proper. you want to cut government size,get rid of gov't programs that gov't is *not supposed to be doing*,like Social Security,Welfare,various other social programs.THAT is where the gov't sticks its nose into people's business. We should consolidate some of the states and lower the number of people in Washington. From 50 states, we could whittle it down to about 25 or so. Like join Nebraska and the Dakotas together and dump four senators. One Carolina and two more senators are out of work. You get the idea. what about states like Texas and California that are big and populous enough for TWO states? Split 'em up? What we need is TERM LIMITs,so that Congresscritters don't spend their entire working lives there. That's when they start thinking they are "elites",different and better than the rest of us. They don't have to follow the laws like the rest of us do. They lose touch with reality,too. The job was never meant to be a lifelong career. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
The House grows according to population;seems proper.
you want to cut government size,get rid of gov't programs that gov't is *not supposed to be doing*,like Social Security,Welfare,various other social programs.THAT is where the gov't sticks its nose into people's business. You know, I don't even mind the 'safety net' of welfare. I do mind when the safety net becomes a hammock though. I see 40% of the population that will blindly vote for anyone that will promise them free stuff, and that number is growing fast. Left as it is I don.t see any hope for change. It's going to take a series of 9/11's or WWIII to get the USA out of this socialist spiral, which, of course, is not how I would like to see the change come about. my .02 |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:16 GMT, "Tony"
wrote: "nick hull" wrote in message .. . You may say that in jest, but a U.S. Senator from New York admitted we have a 200-year supply of guns, but only a ten-year supply of ammunition. Obviously, then, the way to attack the "gun problem" is to tax the ammunition out of existence. And only a month's supply of Senators ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ NO no you got that wrong croocvks own the guns crooks are permitted to carry guns but free people must hide Does that mean that all the crooks that sell on ebay carry guns? There sure are a lot of them on ebay. |
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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
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Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
Jim Yanik wrote:
.... The House grows according to population;seems proper. The only constitutional rule relating to the size of the House says "The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand." Congress regularly increased the size of the House after the census to account for growth but fixed the size of the House at 435 seats in 1911. While theoretically could revoke/revise that law, since then all that has been done is to reapportion seats based on relative populations after the official census. -- |
Light Bulbs are getting Expensive / New Tax
"kpg*" wrote in message 20... The House grows according to population;seems proper. you want to cut government size,get rid of gov't programs that gov't is *not supposed to be doing*,like Social Security,Welfare,various other social programs.THAT is where the gov't sticks its nose into people's business. You know, I don't even mind the 'safety net' of welfare. I do mind when the safety net becomes a hammock though. I see 40% of the population that will blindly vote for anyone that will promise them free stuff, and that number is growing fast. Left as it is I don.t see any hope for change. It's going to take a series of 9/11's or WWIII to get the USA out of this socialist spiral, Well we are far away from socialistic system however we are on the road to it. When such as NJ treasury department penalizes victims because of some Corporation commit fraud what more can we aspect www.cas-environ.com which, of course, is not how I would like to see the change come about. my .02 |
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