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No Name September 3rd 07 04:51 PM

lead solder in water line
 
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a 2nd
spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that was
lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used on my
pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were labeled. I
only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the effort to undo my
work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I don't know the danger
level of potentially having solder with lead in my incoming water lines.

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.



BobK207 September 3rd 07 05:00 PM

lead solder in water line
 
On Sep 3, 8:51 am, wrote:
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a 2nd
spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that was
lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used on my
pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were labeled. I
only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the effort to undo my
work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I don't know the danger
level of potentially having solder with lead in my incoming water lines.

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.


I wouldn't worry about it.

How many older solder joints (leaded) do you have in the system?
Will two new joints make that much diffference?

What's the local water chemistry like? Acidic water will leak more
lead.

When solder is on the spool, lead free looks shiny, leaded looks dull.

When soldered into a joint I find it more difficult to discern the
difference but again the leaded stuff looks dull.

There are test kits to check for leaded vs lead-free.

cheers
Bob


Edwin Pawlowski September 3rd 07 05:29 PM

lead solder in water line
 

wrote in message ...
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a
2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that
was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used
on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were
labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the
effort to undo my work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I
don't know the danger level of potentially having solder with lead in my
incoming water lines.


Don't sweat it. Years ago all joints were lead based and it was not much of
a problem. Two joints would probably not even be readable on a test kit.



HeyBub September 3rd 07 06:39 PM

lead solder in water line
 
wrote:
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered
a 2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one
set that was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am
unsure which I used on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown.
Unfortunately neither were labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the
pipe, would it be worth the effort to undo my work just to redo it
with known lead-free solder? I don't know the danger level of
potentially having solder with lead in my incoming water lines.
I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between
lead-free solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.


The Romans used lead PIPES!

They ended up ruling the world and it took Rome longer to fall than the US
has been in existence.

Forget about it.



[email protected] September 3rd 07 07:33 PM

lead solder in water line
 
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:29:58 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a
2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that
was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used
on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were
labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the
effort to undo my work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I
don't know the danger level of potentially having solder with lead in my
incoming water lines.


Don't sweat it. Years ago all joints were lead based and it was not much of
a problem. Two joints would probably not even be readable on a test kit.


He already "sweat it".

To the OP, it's too late now. You will be dead in a few hours.
Start making a lead coffin with the remaining solder.

Art Todesco September 3rd 07 08:15 PM

lead solder in water line
 
HeyBub wrote:
wrote:
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered
a 2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one
set that was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am
unsure which I used on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown.
Unfortunately neither were labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the
pipe, would it be worth the effort to undo my work just to redo it
with known lead-free solder? I don't know the danger level of
potentially having solder with lead in my incoming water lines.
I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between
lead-free solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.


The Romans used lead PIPES!

They ended up ruling the world and it took Rome longer to fall than the US
has been in existence.

Forget about it.

And, even in the US, many areas used
lead pipes early on.

Edwin Pawlowski September 3rd 07 10:37 PM

lead solder in water line
 

"Art Todesco" wrote in message

And, even in the US, many areas used lead pipes early on.


When I sold my house in Philadelphia (1981), it sill had the original lead
service pipe from 1948. Hundreds of homes were built with lead mains about
that time.



Heathcliff September 4th 07 03:05 AM

lead solder in water line
 

wrote:
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a 2nd
spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that was
lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used on my
pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were labeled. I
only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the effort to undo my
work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I don't know the danger
level of potentially having solder with lead in my incoming water lines.

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.


I am curious about that too. I am thinking that there is a very small
amount of surface area of solder exposed to the water, and that prior
to 1990 or whenever they banned leaded solder, every copper water pipe
in the country was soldered with tin-lead solder, without much in the
way of bad effects. Also if your water is like ours, it tends to line
the inside of the pipes with minerals anyway. But, then why did they
ban leaded solder?


dpb September 4th 07 03:10 AM

lead solder in water line
 
Heathcliff wrote:
wrote:

....

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.


I am curious about that too. I am thinking that there is a very small
amount of surface area of solder exposed to the water, and that prior
to 1990 or whenever they banned leaded solder, every copper water pipe
in the country was soldered with tin-lead solder, without much in the
way of bad effects. Also if your water is like ours, it tends to line
the inside of the pipes with minerals anyway. But, then why did they
ban leaded solder?


Because lead is bad for you and some does get sucked inside soldered
joints when they're sweated. Enough small pieces adds up to enough to
be a concentration of potential for concern, apparently...

I think solder has composition on the roll somewhere. Any plumbers'
solder in the US (other than, of course, something imported that might
not meet US guidelines) will currently be lead-free. Electronics
solders and other special-purpose solders may still contain varying
amounts of lead...

--





Steve Barker LT[_2_] September 4th 07 04:07 AM

lead solder in water line
 
"real" SOLDER was used for years. I wouldn't worry about it. I always use
real solder when i sweat copper. The lead free (LOL) stuff sucks.

s


wrote in message ...
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a
2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that
was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used
on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were
labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the
effort to undo my work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I
don't know the danger level of potentially having solder with lead in my
incoming water lines.

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.




No Name September 4th 07 05:14 AM

lead solder in water line
 
Ok, well thanks to everyone who replied. I guess I have little to worry
about. My house was built in the 70s & has the original plumbing, so it
sounds like it probably has lead solder in the other joints too. I suppose
a little more isn't going to make much of a difference.


wrote in message ...
I'd just finished installing a in-line water filter when I discovered a
2nd spool of solder mixed in my work area. I know that I had one set that
was lead-free, but don't know about the 2nd. Now I am unsure which I used
on my pipes, the lead-free or the unknown. Unfortunately neither were
labeled. I only soldered 2 joints in the pipe, would it be worth the
effort to undo my work just to redo it with known lead-free solder? I
don't know the danger level of potentially having solder with lead in my
incoming water lines.

I tried looking up if there was any way to differentiate between lead-free
solder & solder with lead, but couldn't find anything.




HeyBub September 4th 07 01:50 PM

lead solder in water line
 
Heathcliff wrote:

I am curious about that too. I am thinking that there is a very small
amount of surface area of solder exposed to the water, and that prior
to 1990 or whenever they banned leaded solder, every copper water pipe
in the country was soldered with tin-lead solder, without much in the
way of bad effects. Also if your water is like ours, it tends to line
the inside of the pipes with minerals anyway. But, then why did they
ban leaded solder?


Because the "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" crowd are very loud.



dadiOH September 4th 07 03:18 PM

lead solder in water line
 
wrote:
Ok, well thanks to everyone who replied. I guess I have little to
worry about. My house was built in the 70s & has the original
plumbing, so it sounds like it probably has lead solder in the
other joints too. I suppose a little more isn't going to make much
of a difference.


Just pray that hot pipes weren't wrapped with asbestos cloth and
plaster :)

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