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[email protected] August 28th 07 07:06 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers


bill allemann August 28th 07 07:18 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
Check out the little hooks where a nail goes through the hook and into the
wall at a 45 deg angle. They are cheap and in every hardware store, and
hold much more than you might think.
Do not use the adhesive products. They leave a nasty residue, and will
probably cause the loss of some damage deposit.


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I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers




George August 28th 07 07:38 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hangstuff?
 
wrote:
I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers

Forget about those "easy release" stick on hangers that have a tab that
you pull that is supposed to release them. I had someone who rented an
apartment of mine and used them all over the place. When they moved out
they tried to release them and only one came off cleanly. On the others
the adhesive had penetrated into the drywall paper.

You might also check if your lease allows you to "fix things up".

[email protected] August 28th 07 08:07 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
"bill allemann"
wrote:

Check out the little hooks where a nail goes through the hook and into the
wall at a 45 deg angle. They are cheap and in every hardware store, and
hold much more than you might think.


do you mean these..... Hercules hooks?

http://www.1seenontvstore.com/hercules-hook.html

[email protected] August 28th 07 08:17 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:06:16 -0700, wrote:

I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers


A 1" x 2" frame with a pegboard/cork/fabric insert could be wedged
between floor and ceiling using furniture leveling bolts. Stuff hung
on it would leave no marks at all on the drywall behind it.

RickH August 28th 07 09:29 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
On Aug 28, 1:06 pm, wrote:
I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers


Any hangar that makes a hole is better than an adhesive hangar, a
hangar hole is very easily repaired later with single wipe of drywall
compound. While an adhesive hangar, when removed, will tear the
drywall paper off and that is very hard to hide/fix later when you are
moving out. Use the hangar that is appropriate for the weight of the
object. For example if the painting has a glass front, use a molly
bolt or mushrooming bolt. If a small picture is light then just use a
plastic anchor and screw. If its real light use a thumbtack or brad
hook.



Chris Friesen August 28th 07 09:39 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hangstuff?
 
wrote:
I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.


I suggest either of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...914,50630&ap=1
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...914,50630&ap=1

The first comes in a range of sizes and uses finishing nails to support
up to 75lb, the second is a single item that supports up to 50lb.

As others have said...small puncture marks are easily hidden, but
adhesive-based methods are hard to fix.

Chris

[email protected] August 28th 07 10:23 PM

Thanks for all the tips :-)
 
Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.

I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
stuff and I don't need that much holding power.

When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
manufacturer.

Btw, is it just me or is there a real lack of furnishing books for
renters? Many of us will live in rented accommodations for years and
may want to tweak them a bit.

Yet, all the books I've seen assume:

a) you have tons of space to play with.
b) you own the place so you can rip it apart.
c) you have tons of money so that, in addition to a. and b. you can
afford super-duper custom furniture if you do want to save on space.

I had Sarah Susanka's Not So Big House book and its floor plans looked
more like Not So Small House to me. Still, she at least tries to be
realistic.


Norminn August 28th 07 10:34 PM

Thanks for all the tips :-)
 
wrote:
Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.

I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
stuff and I don't need that much holding power.

When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
manufacturer.


Adhesive hangers are not reliable and are likely to damage the wall.
Scotch Tape is a bad idea - difficult to get the adhesive off. For
plain posters and small picture frames (up to 8x10), straight pins work
very nicely. Get them at fabric store or where they sell sewing
supplies. They sometimes bend, but if driven in at an angle will hold
nicely and leave very little defect when removed.

Btw, is it just me or is there a real lack of furnishing books for
renters? Many of us will live in rented accommodations for years and
may want to tweak them a bit.

Yet, all the books I've seen assume:

a) you have tons of space to play with.
b) you own the place so you can rip it apart.
c) you have tons of money so that, in addition to a. and b. you can
afford super-duper custom furniture if you do want to save on space.

I had Sarah Susanka's Not So Big House book and its floor plans looked
more like Not So Small House to me. Still, she at least tries to be
realistic.


willshak August 28th 07 10:50 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hangstuff?
 
on 8/28/2007 4:39 PM Chris Friesen said the following:
wrote:
I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.


I suggest either of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...914,50630&ap=1

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...914,50630&ap=1


The first comes in a range of sizes and uses finishing nails to
support up to 75lb, the second is a single item that supports up to 50lb.

As others have said...small puncture marks are easily hidden, but
adhesive-based methods are hard to fix.

Chris


These have been around for a long time before Hercules hooks.
http://www.dlawlesshardware.com/pihasuhowiha.html

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

willshak August 28th 07 11:02 PM

Thanks for all the tips :-)
 
on 8/28/2007 5:34 PM Norminn said the following:
wrote:
Thanks for all the tips so far, this is quite helpful.

I think I am going to look into the finishing-nail based hooks.
Cleanup-wise, they seem a safer bet than the big plastic-anchored
stuff and I don't need that much holding power.

When I was talking about adhesives I was talking about posters only -
i.e. using two sided scotch tape or so to hang posters and papers up
on a wall. Not about adhesive-based hooks to hang up stuff up with.
I am pretty sure any glue strong enough to hold up 6 lbs will also rip
out the wall's paint when it leaves, regardless of claims by the
manufacturer.


Adhesive hangers are not reliable and are likely to damage the wall.
Scotch Tape is a bad idea - difficult to get the adhesive off. For
plain posters and small picture frames (up to 8x10), straight pins
work very nicely. Get them at fabric store or where they sell sewing
supplies. They sometimes bend, but if driven in at an angle will hold
nicely and leave very little defect when removed.


Then there's the old reliable Thumb tacks.


Btw, is it just me or is there a real lack of furnishing books for
renters? Many of us will live in rented accommodations for years and
may want to tweak them a bit.

Yet, all the books I've seen assume:

a) you have tons of space to play with.
b) you own the place so you can rip it apart.
c) you have tons of money so that, in addition to a. and b. you can
afford super-duper custom furniture if you do want to save on space.

I had Sarah Susanka's Not So Big House book and its floor plans looked
more like Not So Small House to me. Still, she at least tries to be
realistic.



--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Barbara R August 28th 07 11:27 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
Saw an ad for these over the weekend, and wrote it down.
Hope someone has tried them.

www.herculeshook.com

Barbara


Shawn Hirn August 29th 07 01:41 AM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
In article .com,
wrote:

I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers


Just use some nails and screws, then buy a can of spackle and a putty
knife when you get ready to move and patch the holes. Really. Its no big
deal.

Al Bundy August 29th 07 02:53 AM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
wrote in news:1188324376.187316.151510
@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

I just moved into this new high rise apartment and I'd like to hang
some stuff up. Mostly a few small paintings, but also a few heavier
(6.5 pounds/3kg) masks off the walls.

Anything wrong with the walls when I move out will obviously be my
fault, because the building just went up and I am the first renter.
So I'd like to minimize my visible exit damages to the drywall.

I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Any suggestions as to what type of fasteners to use? And best ways to
fix things up when I leave? I've owned a house and am moderately
savvy about repairs.

In fact, let's extend the question all the way up to what adhesives to
use for my kids' posters. Ideally, I don't want my landlady to have
any excuses to bill me a repainting job.

Cheers


The place will probably be repainted anyway depending on how long you
live there. Yea, you're renting. But you are allowed to live there ya
know. Part of that is hanging things on the wall, walking on floors
wearing them, using the crapper, etc. All is just a matter of reasonable
care.

Holes in walls are indeed easily fixed if you have the touchup paint.

Tapes, although not recommended for hanging anything other than a poster
maybe, do leave sticky crap on the wall. That is EASILY removed with Goo
Gone available just about anywhere.

http://www.magicamerican.com/images/...es/GG3_big.gif

jJim McLaughlin August 29th 07 05:37 AM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hangstuff?
 
wrote:

SNIP HAPPENS
I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Buy the paints *now*. Buy a quart of each that you need. Dollars to
doughnuts in
three years when you move the formulations for colors you have so carefully
written down will have changed and the same color, by the same
manufacturer, will
no longer be available.

Don't open the paints, just store them, preferably upside down so the
can lids are
on the bottom.

And realize that when you do go to do touchups, the paints on the wall
will have
faded and oxidized a bit, and while the paints you stored will be the
closest match
you can get, the match will not be exact due to the ageing of the paint
on the walls.

Shawn Hirn September 3rd 07 01:05 PM

Rented apartment with drywall - best fastener options to hang stuff?
 
In article ,
jJim McLaughlin wrote:

wrote:

SNIP HAPPENS
I have written down the paint color codes from Benjamin Moore for the
building, so I think I can touch up stuff when I leave.

Buy the paints *now*. Buy a quart of each that you need. Dollars to
doughnuts in
three years when you move the formulations for colors you have so carefully
written down will have changed and the same color, by the same
manufacturer, will
no longer be available.


The paint will have probably dried up in the can and the landlord will
likely repaint with recently purchased paint anyway upon the tenant
moving out. Really, this is no big deal. If the OP has doubts, just read
his lease or ask his landlord.


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