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Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so
I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Check out the new split units made by LG. The only electrical connection to
the blower unit is a four wire thermostat cable from the condenser. So simple and works great "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( -- Moe Jones HVAC Service Technician Energy Equalizers Inc. Houston, Texas www.EnergyEqualizers.com |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e$19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Steve wrote:
I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Call around, ask friends, I found a friend of a friend who came out, evacuated, pressure tested and checked the temp differential on mine for a hundred bucks. He was happy not to have to do carpentry. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e$19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e$19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"yourname" wrote in message news:Jdjxi.6$5y3.2@trndny07... Steve wrote: I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Call around, ask friends, I found a friend of a friend who came out, evacuated, pressure tested and checked the temp differential on mine for a hundred bucks. He was happy not to have to do carpentry. A hundred dollars??? What instrument did he use to know when to shut the vacuum pump off? |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e$19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Clark wrote:
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. -- --- there should be a "sig" here Ok, I've waited long enough. CLARK: You obviously [are NOT a GENIUS}. If you were, you would have listened closely to kjpro and learned. Mini - splits are not that much different than most refrigeration units except that the moved the metering device from the indoor section to the outdoor section. Both lines are basically an extended evaporator and need to be insulated and insulated seperately. If you were a genius [you stated it as a fact] you would have know this. But it is YOU who has his head firmly planted where the sun don't shine! The original poster is too cheap to have an HVAC person come, install and charge the system per Mfg.'s instruction. Most competent HVAC companies can't survive on labor charges alone, and need to sell products and services. [We have overhead costs that can not be supported by just labor income.] Besides, if the mini-split failes, the O.P. is going to expect the HVAC person to come out, diagnose the problem for free when there wasn't any profit left for a warranty. So CLARK, go find some hairy hole and crawl back from where you came. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. Hey Dip****, Have you ever worked on a mini-split? Have you had any training on mini-split systems? I already know the answer, so pay attention... I never said the LL was sweating. But most competent HVAC technicians understood what Moe Jones was talking about. I'm sorry it went right over your head! Here, let me explain it to ya, Lucy. Most residential split systems have a LL (small) and a SL (larger). Normally, the only one that's insulated is the SL. However, there are situations where the LL will be insulated. Now, when you come to mini-splits. They have the same two copper lines (smaller and larger). However, since the metering device is in the outdoor unit by the service valve, both lines will sweat. This requires both lines to be insulated. This is a little different than the normal residential split system ----- Just like I already stated TWICE. Now, do you understand this? And if your comeback is "I know HVAC", then please tell me another difference between a normal split and a mini split. Otherwise, STFU and learn something before spouting off to someone with more competence than you could even dream of having. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... "Zyp" wrote in news:Y5adnR54x72PylrbnZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@championbroa dband.com: Clark wrote: kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. -- --- there should be a "sig" here Ok, I've waited long enough. CLARK: You obviously [are NOT a GENIUS}. If you were, you would have listened closely to kjpro and learned. If kjpro had a point I'd listen. He chose to insult me so he gets the education. Sorry but you really shouldn't butt in. You started this whole mess, when you couldn't comprehend a simple statement. Go back and you'll see you posted to me first, ASSHOLE!!!! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in : "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. Hey Dip****, Have you ever worked on a mini-split? Have you had any training on mini-split systems? I already know the answer, so pay attention... I never said the LL was sweating. Yes, you did. What do you hope to gain by telling lies? Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! Most residential split systems have a LL (small) and a SL (larger). Normally, the only one that's insulated is the SL. However, there are situations where the LL will be insulated. Now, when you come to mini-splits. They have the same two copper lines (smaller and larger). However, since the metering device is in the outdoor unit by the service valve, both lines will sweat. This requires both lines to be insulated. This is a little different than the normal residential split system ----- Just like I already stated TWICE. Now, do you understand this? And if your comeback is "I know HVAC", then please tell me another difference between a normal split and a mini split. Otherwise, STFU and learn something before spouting off to someone with more competence than you could even dream of having. Son you still don't get it do you? If it is sweating it is not a liquid line. Why do you insist on calling it one? Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! Now pull your head out of your anal orfice and admit that your terminology doesn't describe the physical system. You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Clark wrote:
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in : "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. Hey Dip****, Have you ever worked on a mini-split? Have you had any training on mini-split systems? I already know the answer, so pay attention... I never said the LL was sweating. Yes, you did. What do you hope to gain by telling lies? Most residential split systems have a LL (small) and a SL (larger). Normally, the only one that's insulated is the SL. However, there are situations where the LL will be insulated. Now, when you come to mini-splits. They have the same two copper lines (smaller and larger). However, since the metering device is in the outdoor unit by the service valve, both lines will sweat. This requires both lines to be insulated. This is a little different than the normal residential split system ----- Just like I already stated TWICE. Now, do you understand this? And if your comeback is "I know HVAC", then please tell me another difference between a normal split and a mini split. Otherwise, STFU and learn something before spouting off to someone with more competence than you could even dream of having. Son you still don't get it do you? If it is sweating it is not a liquid line. Why do you insist on calling it one? Now pull your head out of your anal orfice and admit that your terminology doesn't describe the physical system. -- --- there should be a "sig" here And actually "CLARK" - liquid lines "can" sweat when the subcooling reaches a temperature below the dew point. And yes, they [the liquid line] doesn't necessarily have to have adibiatic expansion to sweat. Just meet the dew point. Which BTW is not that hard to do. You can have a liquid line heat exchanger that uses suction gas to sub-cool the line and as a result - sweat. So you are not on the mark that when you make a general statement that the liquid line is sweating, which in the case of a mini-split is not what leaves the outdoor section BTW - it's actually a part of the distributor feed heading to the evaporator. Calling it a liquid line is actuall not accurate [there would be a 75% liquid / 25% vapor mix in the small line and 100% vapor / gas in the large suction line.] And BTW you as well entered this discussion, you not event he O.P. so go pound sand. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
RBM wrote:
Check out the new split units made by LG. The only electrical connection to the blower unit is a four wire thermostat cable from the condenser. So simple and works great "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve RBM: Yes, that's how most of the mini-splits I've installed are wired, but be sure, the cable is NOT a thermostat wire, you should read the instructions on the proper gauge. Most of them call out for 14/4. Most codes also call for a "disconnection means" at the indoor section as well. This cable has two hots sometimes, or one hot and one neutral, one ground, one data line. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"yourname" wrote in message news:Jdjxi.6$5y3.2@trndny07... Steve wrote: I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Call around, ask friends, I found a friend of a friend who came out, evacuated, pressure tested and checked the temp differential on mine for a hundred bucks. He was happy not to have to do carpentry. A hundred dollars??? What instrument did he use to know when to shut the vacuum pump off? What vacuum pump? :) Just hook 'er up, open the valves with a set of pliers and let it fly! ;) -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
gosh, kj and clark, i don't know and i'm fast growing to the point where
i don't care, whether you know hvac or not. but so far, i'd say you're both batting zero at acting like you've actually graduated puberty. why don't you both go smoke a joint and chill for a day or two. no one wins flame fests, and you've both been hanging out long enough to have at least learned that, i would hope. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... gosh, kj and clark, i don't know and i'm fast growing to the point where i don't care, whether you know hvac or not. but so far, i'd say you're both batting zero at acting like you've actually graduated puberty. why don't you both go smoke a joint and chill for a day or two. no one wins flame fests, and you've both been hanging out long enough to have at least learned that, i would hope. Sorry, I don't smoke pot or take other illegal drugs. I also don't chill, when someone says I said something I didn't. So put that in your pipe and smoke it! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... gosh, kj and clark, i don't know and i'm fast growing to the point where i don't care, whether you know hvac or not. but so far, i'd say you're both batting zero at acting like you've actually graduated puberty. why don't you both go smoke a joint and chill for a day or two. no one wins flame fests, and you've both been hanging out long enough to have at least learned that, i would hope. Sorry, I don't smoke pot or take other illegal drugs. I also don't chill, when someone says I said something I didn't. So put that in your pipe and smoke it! LOL -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:3b237$46c77326$9440c41e$31044 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in : "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d $9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto- cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. Hey Dip****, Have you ever worked on a mini-split? Have you had any training on mini-split systems? I already know the answer, so pay attention... I never said the LL was sweating. Yes, you did. What do you hope to gain by telling lies? Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! Yes you did when you ask me why it was "different" for a liquid line to sweat. You can try to deny your lie all you want but it is there for all to see. Oh my, PAY ATTENTION this time, Boy. I stated, "Yep, they are a little different. :-)" Then you posted, "The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different..." Then I stated, "Why? (All they did was move the metering device)" = = = = = = Now here's where it gets a little difficult for mentally challenged people, so pay extra attention to the details. I said they (mini-splits) were a little different (then regular residential splits). You come back and say the liquid line sweating is more than a little different. Do you see it was YOU that stated it was still a LL and that it was sweating? Do you see where I then posted that they moved the metering device? Can you understand that is a little different? Do you see anywhere, where I called it a LL? Most competent people are not having issues understanding this minor detail. Most residential split systems have a LL (small) and a SL (larger). Normally, the only one that's insulated is the SL. However, there are situations where the LL will be insulated. Now, when you come to mini-splits. They have the same two copper lines (smaller and larger). However, since the metering device is in the outdoor unit by the service valve, both lines will sweat. This requires both lines to be insulated. This is a little different than the normal residential split system ----- Just like I already stated TWICE. Now, do you understand this? And if your comeback is "I know HVAC", then please tell me another difference between a normal split and a mini split. Otherwise, STFU and learn something before spouting off to someone with more competence than you could even dream of having. Son you still don't get it do you? If it is sweating it is not a liquid line. Why do you insist on calling it one? Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! Now pull your head out of your anal orfice and admit that your terminology doesn't describe the physical system. You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. Son, you are the one who doesn't even pay attention to what you type. On top of that you make vain attempts to "prove" your knowledge when it isn't even challenged. Now go back and read everything that has been written. You'll see that all I said was a liquid line couldn't sweat and that is true. You're the one trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Not true, you acted like a know-it-all that was out to prove me wrong. But in the process, you found out that I know my **** and that you were indeed in deep ****. Now you want to disclaim the fact that YOU were the one with your head up your ass. Sorry Boy, that **** just doesn't cut the mustard. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Clark" wrote in message ... "Zyp" wrote in news:lZWdnXT74eDyGFrbnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@championbroa dband.com: Clark wrote: kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in : "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:d20de$46c71bc9$9440c41e$32431 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:20fc7$46c68bbd$9440c41e$14988 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:a9577$46c5e3b1$9440c41e$7820 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:9b82c$46c5bdf0$9440c41e$27900 @STARBAND.NET: "Clark" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in news:5dc1c$46c46c8d$9440c41e $19580 @STARBAND.NET: "Moe Jones" wrote in message ... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Why don't you call a couple of HVAC companies and locate one that will install them? That way, you'll have someone to complete the job and have a warranty to boot. I agree, so should be able to find a HVAC company to install the system. A couple of years ago I replaced one and I messed up by not reading the instructions. On that system you had to insulate the liquid line because they used it as a metering device so the liquid line would sweat and it was dripping water inside the space. :-( Yep, they are a little different. :-) The liquid line sweating would be more than a little different... Why? (All they did was move the metering device) If it's liquid, it's not going to be sweating... No ****... Obviously if it is sweating then it's already expanded to some degree. You're a genius... Now, I say again... the mini-splits are a little different. That FACT hasn't changed from the last time I posted it. I'm a genius and I can tell that you suffer from a recto-cranial inversion. How's that grab ya? I see, most people do try and change the subject, when they are losing the current one. No son, I didn't change the subject. I pointed out that your reply exhibited symptoms that conclusively demonstrate that your head is firmly up your ass. Pull it out, wipe the **** out of your eyes and look around a bit. Perhaps you'll realize that your opinions and statements aren't that wonderful. Then again, perhaps your aren't equiped to understand that. The fact that you're not competent enough to understand my post, really doesn't account for anything. Son, you aren't even close to being qualified to assess my competency. You didn't even know why a liquid line sweating would be impossible and had to ask. I've already told you once but here it is again: it isn't liquid if it's sweating. It's already been expanded, e.g. it's gas. No run on back to alt.hvac where your head-n-ass syndrome is accepted behavior. Hey Dip****, Have you ever worked on a mini-split? Have you had any training on mini-split systems? I already know the answer, so pay attention... I never said the LL was sweating. Yes, you did. What do you hope to gain by telling lies? Most residential split systems have a LL (small) and a SL (larger). Normally, the only one that's insulated is the SL. However, there are situations where the LL will be insulated. Now, when you come to mini-splits. They have the same two copper lines (smaller and larger). However, since the metering device is in the outdoor unit by the service valve, both lines will sweat. This requires both lines to be insulated. This is a little different than the normal residential split system ----- Just like I already stated TWICE. Now, do you understand this? And if your comeback is "I know HVAC", then please tell me another difference between a normal split and a mini split. Otherwise, STFU and learn something before spouting off to someone with more competence than you could even dream of having. Son you still don't get it do you? If it is sweating it is not a liquid line. Why do you insist on calling it one? Now pull your head out of your anal orfice and admit that your terminology doesn't describe the physical system. -- --- there should be a "sig" here And actually "CLARK" - liquid lines "can" sweat when the subcooling reaches a temperature below the dew point. And yes, they [the liquid line] doesn't necessarily have to have adibiatic expansion to sweat. Just meet the dew point. Which BTW is not that hard to do. You can have a liquid line heat exchanger that uses suction gas to sub-cool the line and as a result - sweat. Har, har. You won't find an expensive heat exchanger on a mini-split. Better look up the meaning of "sub-cool" while your looking for more facts to argue with. I know what sub-cool means, what happens when you don't have any? So you are not on the mark that when you make a general statement that the liquid line is sweating, which in the case of a mini-split is not I'm the one who said a liquid line wouldn't be sweating. Got it? That's right, you called it a LL and said it won't be sweating. I posted that the manufacture's moved the metering device. That to most competent techs, would mean something. But in your case, your left out in left field without a clue. what leaves the outdoor section BTW - it's actually a part of the distributor feed heading to the evaporator. Calling it a liquid line is actuall not accurate [there would be a 75% liquid / 25% vapor mix in the small line and 100% vapor / gas in the large suction line.] Your reading skills need work, son. I'm the one who said it couldn't be a liquid line and jkpro asked why. OBTW, no one is going to run a multi-phase high pressure line so you're going to have to back up that claim with some technical literature. Wrong again, Dip****. I asked WHY you posted that it would make them more than a little different. Pay attention! I see you have no experience with mini-splits, yet your arguing about the technicalities of one, nice! And BTW you as well entered this discussion, you not event he O.P. so go pound sand. Don't tell me what to do dumb ass. So tell me Zyp, why are you attempting to come to kjpro's rescue? I mean it's obvious he needs help and all but why you? It seems to me that you are going way out of your way to embarrass yourself while trying to support a fellow nobody on the internet. I don't need help, in fact you're the one that's lacking to prove your point. Zyp, on the other hand, called you on your bull****, just like I did. Too bad for you, you're out of your league to answer the questions that have been asked of you. Side step the ones I posted today, will only be more proof that you're an incompetent wanta-bee. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:29:58 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Clark" wrote in message ... [quoted text muted] Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! [quoted text muted] Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! [quoted text muted] You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. Oh look, you've found someone to argue with. Who'd have thought that possible, LMAO! Oh look, another incompetent want-a-bee faggot wants to join in... You thought you snipped my text, yet you snipped his dribble and left my facts with his header... what a ****ing moron! LOL |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
I'm talking about 18 gauge thermostat cable, (low voltage) from condenser to
blower "Zyp" wrote in message news:VrednbxCmfpYFFrbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@championbroa dband.com... RBM wrote: Check out the new split units made by LG. The only electrical connection to the blower unit is a four wire thermostat cable from the condenser. So simple and works great "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve RBM: Yes, that's how most of the mini-splits I've installed are wired, but be sure, the cable is NOT a thermostat wire, you should read the instructions on the proper gauge. Most of them call out for 14/4. Most codes also call for a "disconnection means" at the indoor section as well. This cable has two hots sometimes, or one hot and one neutral, one ground, one data line. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:12:21 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:29:58 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Clark" wrote in message ... [quoted text muted] Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! [quoted text muted] Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! [quoted text muted] You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. Oh look, you've found someone to argue with. Who'd have thought that possible, LMAO! Oh look, another incompetent want-a-bee faggot wants to join in... You thought you snipped my text, yet you snipped his dribble and left my facts with his header... what a ****ing moron! LOL As if by magic you prove my point. That you're an incompetent, want-a-bee, faggot.... we already knew that! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:40:40 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:12:21 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:29:58 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Clark" wrote in message ... [quoted text muted] Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! [quoted text muted] Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! [quoted text muted] You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. Oh look, you've found someone to argue with. Who'd have thought that possible, LMAO! Oh look, another incompetent want-a-bee faggot wants to join in... You thought you snipped my text, yet you snipped his dribble and left my facts with his header... what a ****ing moron! LOL As if by magic you prove my point. That you're an incompetent, want-a-bee, faggot.... we already knew that! Nice IKYABWAI. You're still the incompetent want-a-bee. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Let me really clarify. These are new. They're made by LG, and the ONLY
electrical connection to the inside blower unit is an 18/4 low voltage thermostat cable, from the condenser. All the electric flows through this cable, it's all low voltage, controls and motors "Zyp" wrote in message news:VrednbxCmfpYFFrbnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@championbroa dband.com... RBM wrote: Check out the new split units made by LG. The only electrical connection to the blower unit is a four wire thermostat cable from the condenser. So simple and works great "Steve" wrote in message ... I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve RBM: Yes, that's how most of the mini-splits I've installed are wired, but be sure, the cable is NOT a thermostat wire, you should read the instructions on the proper gauge. Most of them call out for 14/4. Most codes also call for a "disconnection means" at the indoor section as well. This cable has two hots sometimes, or one hot and one neutral, one ground, one data line. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:43:23 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:40:40 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:12:21 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:29:58 -0500, kjpro wrote: "Clark" wrote in message ... [quoted text muted] Then post it for all to see.... I won't be waiting, as I NEVER said that, Asshole! [quoted text muted] Again, where did I say it was a LL on the mini-split? Get a clue, Dip****! [quoted text muted] You better get some more training, your incompetence is showing. Oh look, you've found someone to argue with. Who'd have thought that possible, LMAO! Oh look, another incompetent want-a-bee faggot wants to join in... You thought you snipped my text, yet you snipped his dribble and left my facts with his header... what a ****ing moron! LOL As if by magic you prove my point. That you're an incompetent, want-a-bee, faggot.... we already knew that! Nice IKYABWAI. What's next, more homophobic lames? You're still the incompetent want-a-bee. Says the illiterate imbecile that doesn't even know his own English language. Main Entry: wan·na·be Variant(s): also wan·na·bee /'wä-n&-"bE/ Function: noun Etymology: from the phrase want to be Nothing that pertains to the OT. I see, you're just a want-a-bee Troll. An incompetent one at that. |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... Let me really clarify. These are new. They're made by LG What's the model number? |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
One of them is : LMU240CE
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... Let me really clarify. These are new. They're made by LG What's the model number? |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
In my book, if it's under 600 volt, which is standard building wire, it's
thermostat wire, waterproof or not kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... In my book, if it's under 600 volt, which is standard building wire, it's thermostat wire, waterproof or not Then by all means, be a hack... Hell, while you're at it, you might as well do the whole installation wrong. That way, when the equipment fails, you can blame the manufacture, Eh? This whole thread is nothing but a waste of space. I don't even know why you posted on the subject, if you're not going to take advice from the Professionals. kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
Zyp wrote:
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "yourname" wrote in message news:Jdjxi.6$5y3.2@trndny07... Steve wrote: I want to install a ductless mini-split system in my garage/workshop, so I called one of the local HVAC companies to get a quote. I started to tell the girl who answered the phone what I wanted, and she said, "Oh, we don't install ductless mini-split systems." I asked her why, and she said she didn't know. What I really need is someone to do the charging for me - I can do the physical installation. So how do I find somebody who's got the EPA certification? --Steve Call around, ask friends, I found a friend of a friend who came out, evacuated, pressure tested and checked the temp differential on mine for a hundred bucks. He was happy not to have to do carpentry. A hundred dollars??? What instrument did he use to know when to shut the vacuum pump off? What vacuum pump? :) Just hook 'er up, open the valves with a set of pliers and let it fly! ;) -- Zyp RBM: I hope your product liability insurance is paid up. You use Class II thermostat cable on anything higher than 30 volts and you'll have safety problems. Even if the blower on the indoor section were 24 volts, it would require large cable than 18 ga. [FYI 18ga solid wiring can only handle 3 amps safely - and the jacket that comes with 18/3 generally isn't approved by most cities for outdoor use.] Most cities want it inside of liquidtight flex or somthing comparable. If LG recommends running 18/3, head on, but I don't think so. It's true, I've never installed a ductless from "Lucky Goldstar" but I hear LG is manufacturing a lot of differnet products. I even recently purchased an LG refrigerator and am pleasently happy with it so far. As for CLARK, I'm not here for kjpro's rescue. I just can't let you make some of the comments your making and mis-leading folks. -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
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Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Zyp" wrote in message ... RBM: I hope your product liability insurance is paid up. You use Class II thermostat cable on anything higher than 30 volts and you'll have safety problems. Even if the blower on the indoor section were 24 volts, it would require large cable than 18 ga. [FYI 18ga solid wiring can only handle 3 amps safely - and the jacket that comes with 18/3 generally isn't approved by most cities for outdoor use.] Most cities want it inside of liquidtight flex or somthing comparable. If LG recommends running 18/3, head on, but I don't think so. Here's the facts, straight from LG... Here's his posted model number and my reply to it, with the manufacture's requirements. "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! BTW, it's a 4-wire connection. http://tinyurl.com/2qvxl6 Page 20 |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
"Zyp" wrote in message ... RBM: I hope your product liability insurance is paid up. You use Class II thermostat cable on anything higher than 30 volts and you'll have safety problems. Even if the blower on the indoor section were 24 volts, it would require large cable than 18 ga. [FYI 18ga solid wiring can only handle 3 amps safely - and the jacket that comes with 18/3 generally isn't approved by most cities for outdoor use.] Most cities want it inside of liquidtight flex or somthing comparable. If LG recommends running 18/3, head on, but I don't think so. Here's the facts, straight from LG... Here's his posted model number and my reply to it, with the manufacture's requirements. "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! BTW, it's a 4-wire connection. http://tinyurl.com/2qvxl6 Page 20 That's what has been the requirment on the FUJITSU's we've been installing. Although on the Soleus units it is 3 wire? Go figure. Have you installed any LG's? -- Zyp |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
"Zyp" wrote in message news:CPSdnXxML45rq1TbnZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@championbroa dband.com... kjpro @ usenet.com wrote: "Zyp" wrote in message ... RBM: I hope your product liability insurance is paid up. You use Class II thermostat cable on anything higher than 30 volts and you'll have safety problems. Even if the blower on the indoor section were 24 volts, it would require large cable than 18 ga. [FYI 18ga solid wiring can only handle 3 amps safely - and the jacket that comes with 18/3 generally isn't approved by most cities for outdoor use.] Most cities want it inside of liquidtight flex or somthing comparable. If LG recommends running 18/3, head on, but I don't think so. Here's the facts, straight from LG... Here's his posted model number and my reply to it, with the manufacture's requirements. "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! BTW, it's a 4-wire connection. http://tinyurl.com/2qvxl6 Page 20 That's what has been the requirment on the FUJITSU's we've been installing. Although on the Soleus units it is 3 wire? Go figure. Have you installed any LG's? No, that's why I asked him for the model... I wanted to go directly to the manufacture for specifications. :-) You know me... get the facts... then rip apart the bull****. LOL |
Installation of a Ductless Mini-Split System?
My point is that being a low voltage circuit to the blower unit makes it a
simple installation, more so than having to run a line voltage and control circuit. It's still an 18/4 cable albeit not CL-2. Truth of the matter is the installation I saw was done by a large union "HVAC professional" company. The reason I post here is to try to give useful advice to homeowners and do-it-yourself folks that request it. I do this as a seasoned professional in my particular field, as do many others. Since your advice to folks seems to be to call a professional, why exactly do you post here? kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... In my book, if it's under 600 volt, which is standard building wire, it's thermostat wire, waterproof or not Then by all means, be a hack... Hell, while you're at it, you might as well do the whole installation wrong. That way, when the equipment fails, you can blame the manufacture, Eh? This whole thread is nothing but a waste of space. I don't even know why you posted on the subject, if you're not going to take advice from the Professionals. kjpro @ usenet.com wrote in message ... "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... One of them is : LMU240CE Directly from their installations instructions... "Use outdoor and waterproof connection cable rated more than 300V for the connection between indoor and outdoor unit. (For example, Type SJO-WA)" That's not standard 18/4 thermostat wire! That's one of the reason's you need to hire a competent HVAC technician to install your mini-split system! |
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