I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

They are standard but measure them. Of more importance is your
install. Most manufacturers specfy a Plumb, Level and Square install
or any warranty is Void, Companies like Pella and Anderson allow a
1/8" max out of perfect install, One crappy company I know requires
perfect install. Alot of warrantys are dissalowed by improper install.


I'm "in the process!"

Sometimes the original builder takes some "shortcuts" that make it very
difficult to replace the unit. In my case, the bottom of the door
assembly was at the patio level rather than the basement level. (Problems
include water damage, trash in the track, etc.) When I raise the bottom I
have to do some cutting and reframing at the top.

But they are "standard." If the door is in a brick or block wall, you
usually have to add extra space as the exterior trim is usually INSIDE a
brick wall but on the surface of a siding surface.

On Apr 29, 6:37 am, "diablo" wrote:
I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

They are standard but measure them. Of more importance is your
install. Most manufacturers specfy a Plumb, Level and Square install
or any warranty is Void, Companies like Pella and Anderson allow a
1/8" max out of perfect install, One crappy company I know requires
perfect install. Alot of warrantys are dissalowed by improper install.

diablo wrote:
I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

Pull the inside jamb molding off to expose the door frame and studs, and
measure the rough opening. Find one that will fit in your rough opening.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

If the door and frame are in good shape you may want to get an
estimate to replace only the glass from a glass shop. Generally the
panes are standard size and the shop can order them and install.

On Apr 29, 7:37 am, "diablo" wrote:
I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

"ransley" wrote in message
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On Apr 29, 6:37 am, "diablo" wrote:
I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

They are standard but measure them. Of more importance is your
install. Most manufacturers specfy a Plumb, Level and Square install
or any warranty is Void, Companies like Pella and Anderson allow a
1/8" max out of perfect install, One crappy company I know requires
perfect install. Alot of warrantys are dissalowed by improper install.

Are the frame, weather seal, and moving parts in good shape? If so, local
glass company can just switch out the glass, probably cheaper than switching
the entire door. If the rest of the door is getting bad, yeah, a modern door
is probably indicated. Don't forget, there is often a nailer flange buried
under the siding or brick on the outside. Sliding door is essentially just a
giant window, and installs about the same way. If vendor will install for a
few hundred or less, jump at it. It is hard work (those suckers are HEAVY),
a two-man job, and as noted, warranty often requires a pro installation
anyway.

aem sends...

--

"John~ "
wrote in message
. net...
In article , diablo
wrote:

I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

If you really *want* to replace your patio door, knock yourself out,
but it seem like a lot of money to waste if the only problem is fogged
glass.

Look in the yellow pages under "Glass". Any competent glass company
can take apart the frames of the sliding panels, put new glass in them
and reassemble. Many will even give you a warranty on the new glass.

Let your fingers do the walking.

The rollers at the bottom of the door are also damaged, it's replacement
time.

--

"ransley" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 29, 6:37 am, "diablo" wrote:
I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths? What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

They are standard but measure them. Of more importance is your
install. Most manufacturers specfy a Plumb, Level and Square install
or any warranty is Void, Companies like Pella and Anderson allow a
1/8" max out of perfect install, One crappy company I know requires
perfect install. Alot of warrantys are dissalowed by improper install.


I found an Anderson door that I like, it's heavy and seems well built. One
question, the frame is knocked down, meaning it needs to be assembled.
Should that concern me one way or the other?

Thanks,
Brian

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:18:37 -0400, "diablo"
wrote:


I found an Anderson door that I like, it's heavy and seems well built. One
question, the frame is knocked down, meaning it needs to be assembled.
Should that concern me one way or the other?

Yes, to some degree. Assemble the frame according to every
instructional detail. You will assemble the unit on the floor. Once
together and ready to place in the RO, do_not_ torque_ the_ frame.

Make sure the helper knows this.


--
Oren

"If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me."

"
wrote in message
. net...
In article , diablo
wrote:

I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard
looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty
easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths?
What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door
all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers
anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

If you really *want* to replace your patio door, knock yourself out,
but it seem like a lot of money to waste if the only problem is fogged
glass.

Look in the yellow pages under "Glass". Any competent glass company
can take apart the frames of the sliding panels, put new glass in them
and reassemble. Many will even give you a warranty on the new glass.

Let your fingers do the walking.

The rollers at the bottom of the door are also damaged, it's replacement
time.

New rollers are five bucks apiece.

A new door costs how much? Installed?

It's your money....

John,

Where would one buy the rollers? And are they all the same? I have no idea
what brand the old door is, it's been on the house 30 years.

Thanks,
Brian

"diablo" wrote in message
...
"
wrote in message
. net...
In article , diablo
wrote:

I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the
glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard
looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty
easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths?
What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door
all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out
and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers
anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

If you really *want* to replace your patio door, knock yourself out,
but it seem like a lot of money to waste if the only problem is fogged
glass.

Look in the yellow pages under "Glass". Any competent glass company
can take apart the frames of the sliding panels, put new glass in them
and reassemble. Many will even give you a warranty on the new glass.

Let your fingers do the walking.

The rollers at the bottom of the door are also damaged, it's replacement
time.

New rollers are five bucks apiece.

A new door costs how much? Installed?

It's your money....

John,

Where would one buy the rollers? And are they all the same? I have no idea
what brand the old door is, it's been on the house 30 years.

Same window company that switches out the fogged glass can replace the
rollers, since they will likely have the door out on sawhorses anyway. Most
window companies are happy to give free estimates, with a site visit. Call
a couple local companies, and have the price out repair and replacement.

aem sends...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:00:39 -0400, "diablo"
wrote:

"
wrote in message
. net...
In article , diablo
wrote:

I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard
looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty
easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths?
What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door
all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers
anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

If you really *want* to replace your patio door, knock yourself out,
but it seem like a lot of money to waste if the only problem is fogged
glass.

Look in the yellow pages under "Glass". Any competent glass company
can take apart the frames of the sliding panels, put new glass in them
and reassemble. Many will even give you a warranty on the new glass.

Let your fingers do the walking.

The rollers at the bottom of the door are also damaged, it's replacement
time.

New rollers are five bucks apiece.

A new door costs how much? Installed?

It's your money....

John,

Where would one buy the rollers? And are they all the same? I have no idea
what brand the old door is, it's been on the house 30 years.

Thanks,
Brian


http://www.replacement-hardware.com/index.html

--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

--

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:00:39 -0400, "diablo"
wrote:

"
wrote in message
. net...
In article , diablo
wrote:

I need to replace the sliding patio doors on my house due to the
glass
being
fogged on the inside of the glass panes. It's a pretty standard
looking
door, 6'8" high and 6' or so wide. Looks like it should be a pretty
easy
job
to replace.

Question that I have, are the doors manufactured in standard widths?
What
I
mean is do all manufacturers that sell a 6' wide sliding patio door
all
make
them the same width on the outside? Or do I need to take these out
and
measure them before I buy? Don't want to add unsightly fillers
anywhere
if I
can help it, or cut the opening wider.

Thanks,
Brian

If you really *want* to replace your patio door, knock yourself out,
but it seem like a lot of money to waste if the only problem is
fogged
glass.

Look in the yellow pages under "Glass". Any competent glass company
can take apart the frames of the sliding panels, put new glass in
them
and reassemble. Many will even give you a warranty on the new glass.

Let your fingers do the walking.

The rollers at the bottom of the door are also damaged, it's
replacement
time.

New rollers are five bucks apiece.

A new door costs how much? Installed?

It's your money....

John,

Where would one buy the rollers? And are they all the same? I have no idea
what brand the old door is, it's been on the house 30 years.

Thanks,
Brian


http://www.replacement-hardware.com/index.html

--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

Excellent link Oren, thanks!

Brian