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Mando April 11th 07 08:20 PM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
Hi all

Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block (I
didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.


How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?


Any help much appreciated.


Thanks


Paul


mm April 11th 07 08:46 PM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
On 11 Apr 2007 12:20:29 -0700, "Mando" wrote:

Hi all

Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block (I
didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.


I'm very confused.

What country are you in?

What do L, N, and E mean, in "red L, black N and green/yellow E."

BTW, what's a div?

How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?


Any help much appreciated.


Thanks


Paul



Jeff Wisnia April 11th 07 10:38 PM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
mm wrote:

On 11 Apr 2007 12:20:29 -0700, "Mando" wrote:


Hi all

Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block


I'm trying to picture what a "rose" terminal block looks like...I'm
guessing it's got terminal screws aranged around the periphery of a
circle maybe?
(I
didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.



I'm very confused.

What country are you in?

What do L, N, and E mean, in "red L, black N and green/yellow E."


I'm guessing they are "Line", "Neutral" and "Earth" (ground), so the
OP's probably not a "Born in the USA" guy.

BTW, what's a div?


Found it he

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/d.htm



How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?


Two of EACH or just TWO? G

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.



Any help much appreciated.


Thanks


Paul







sym April 12th 07 02:09 AM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
On Apr 11, 5:38 pm, Jeff Wisnia wrote:
mm wrote:
On 11 Apr 2007 12:20:29 -0700, "Mando" wrote:


Hi all


Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block


I'm trying to picture what a "rose" terminal block looks like...I'm
guessing it's got terminal screws aranged around the periphery of a
circle maybe?
(I

didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.


I'm very confused.


What country are you in?


What do L, N, and E mean, in "red L, black N and green/yellow E."


I'm guessing they are "Line", "Neutral" and "Earth" (ground), so the
OP's probably not a "Born in the USA" guy.



BTW, what's a div?


Found it he

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/d.htm



How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?


Two of EACH or just TWO? G

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.





Any help much appreciated.


Thanks


Paul- Hide quoted text -


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L=line (hot)
N=nuetral
E= ground
the wires red blue yellow seem odd
E would get the nekkid wire
i would guess yellow gets N
the red or blue to L
find your swith and look at the wires in there and see how its wired
and if that same red blue yellow wire originates there.
it sounds like it was wired for a fan lite unit, if that be the
caseyou could use either for your L.


sym April 12th 07 02:51 AM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
On Apr 11, 3:46 pm, mm wrote:
On 11 Apr 2007 12:20:29 -0700, "Mando" wrote:

Hi all


Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block (I
didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.


I'm very confused.

What country are you in?

What do L, N, and E mean, in "red L, black N and green/yellow E."

BTW, what's a div?





How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?


Any help much appreciated.


Thanks


Paul- Hide quoted text -


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after rereading your post i realize you have an old three way system
somehow i missed the second cable are there two switches controling
this light? if so pull out both swithches look for common printed on
the switch newer switches have one screw that is differnt color (not
green) that is common. common wire is either your hot wire or the
swith leg so if yellow is common then it goes to black fixture wire
white to wghite fixture wire red to red ,black to blue but you need to
check those swithes


sym April 12th 07 03:45 AM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
On Apr 11, 3:20 pm, "Mando" wrote:
Hi all

Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block (I
didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.

How do I connect these to the new light fittings, which has just 2
Live and Neutral connectors?

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks

Paul


ok i was wrong not a fan lite , sounds like old style 3 way system.
are there 2 swithes that control the light? if so pull them out there
should be two screws the same color for your dummy wires, one green
for green yellow or nekkid, and one other color normally black
sometimes gold which is for common wire common on one swithch is a
feed (hot) the other switch has your switch leg (goes to lite).
white wire to white fixture wires, yellow (my guess) to black fixture
wires, red to red, black to blue, unless one of your commons is blue
or some other color then hook it to fixture black wires, nekkid yellow/
green E are all grounds


Bud-- April 12th 07 03:53 PM

Replacing a ceiling light
 
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
mm wrote:

On 11 Apr 2007 12:20:29 -0700, "Mando" wrote:


Hi all

Sorry to sound such a div, but I've got a simple wiring problem. I'm
replacing a ceiling light. There are 2 cables coming out of the
ceiling, that originally went into a ceiling rose terminal block



I'm trying to picture what a "rose" terminal block looks like...I'm
guessing it's got terminal screws aranged around the periphery of a
circle maybe?
(I

didn't make a not of how this was wired!). One cable has four wires
(red, blue, yellow, and one "naked"). The other cable has red L,
black
N and green/yellow E.




I'm very confused.

What country are you in?

What do L, N, and E mean, in "red L, black N and green/yellow E."



I'm guessing they are "Line", "Neutral" and "Earth" (ground), so the
OP's probably not a "Born in the USA" guy.


BTW, what's a div?



Found it he

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/d.htm


Nice link.

Sounds like the OP is in the UK.

An old post I saved said that the UK neutral was black and recently,
through European "harmonization", became blue. (Hot and neutral colors
swapped - must be fun for electricians.)

As the OP can see there are major electrical differences between
US/Canada, which is primarily what this newsgroup is, and the UK.

Try uk.d-i-y

--
bud--


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