When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

On Mar 6, 7:00�pm, "Beryl" wrote:
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. *Never
more than two courses of shingles. *Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. *Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

ripping off everything gets a better longer life smoother more
waterproof job.

Having been thru the add a layer its not worth the $$ saved.

New felt is the real waterproffing, so is new flashing all best done
with entire new roof.

When its life is 20 years or more do it right do it once.

At home resale time buyerrs dont like second layers fearing it was a
attempted cover up troubles

On Mar 6, 7:00�pm, "Beryl" wrote:
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. *Never
more than two courses of shingles. *Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. *Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

ripping off everything gets a better longer life smoother more
waterproof job.

Having been thru the add a layer its not worth the $$ saved.

New felt is the real waterproffing, so is new flashing all best done
with entire new roof.

When its life is 20 years or more do it right do it once.

At home resale time buyerrs dont like second layers fearing it was a
attempted cover up troubles

On Mar 6, 7:00�pm, "Beryl" wrote:
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. *Never
more than two courses of shingles. *Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. *Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

ripping off everything gets a better longer life smoother more
waterproof job.

Having been thru the add a layer its not worth the $$ saved.

New felt is the real waterproffing, so is new flashing all best done
with entire new roof.

When its life is 20 years or more do it right do it once.

At home resale time buyerrs dont like second layers fearing it was a
attempted cover up troubles

If you have standard three tab shingles now, a second layer would work just
fine in most cases. It will also be faster and cheaper.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

"Beryl" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

"Roger Shoaf" wrote in message
...
If you have standard three tab shingles now, a second layer would work
just
fine in most cases. It will also be faster and cheaper.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

"Beryl" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Total tear-off is the only way to do a proper inspection of the decking.
Overlay may save a few bucks, but when you are spending that much, better to
do it right. One formerly reputable company around here pushes the T-lock
overlay shingles (aka barn shingles) to almost the exclusion of everything
else, because it saves them so much work, and is quick and cheap (for them).
Their estimate for an overlay was only about 500 cheaper than the ma'n'pa
guy down the street that estimated the job the way I specified (total
tearoff, refresh flashing, ice shield, add vents, yada yada yada). Guess who
I went with. I don't wanna be paying for this again in ten years, assuming I
still own the place.

aem sends....

On Mar 6, 4:54 pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
If you have standard three tab shingles now, a second layer would work just
fine in most cases. It will also be faster and cheaper.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

"Beryl" wrote in message

ups.com...



When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM- Hide quoted text -

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from a contractors view:
He is going to want to do it right the first time {thats if he's any
good} his job is to be able to guarantee the work for usually 5 years,
he just can't do that not knowing what the underlayment conditions
are. If your sure that its good and will last, tell the contractor he
doesn't have to guarantee it for the 5 years. Only if your sure!
howell mi.

Beryl wrote:
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

Best is a total tear off. It helps find weak points epically with
flashings. It makes for a better smoother new roof. It also allows for
some upgrades like waterproofing under everything for the first few feet in
a snow area.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

On 6 Mar 2007 16:00:08 -0800, "Beryl" wrote:

When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM

Are they good, solid contractors with excellent rep's?

If so, investigate further. Why do they recommend rip-off?
Set the revenue-hustle issue aside for now.

You have very carefully inspected your roof from the outside
and (if practical) the inside? You are -sure- there is -no-
evidence of deterioration of underlayment, etc??

As mentioned, there's other stuff that merits inspection.

I doubt anyone here can tell you which way to jump. Some
folks in the position you describe would be OK with a 2nd
layer (long-term). Others wouldn't.

Cheers,
Puddin'


"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather
than the victim."
- Bertrand Russell

"Beryl" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Do you have any leaks? (If yes, rip it off) Can you inspect from the
underside? Are there any ripples or bubbles in the existing shingles?

It is definitely best to rip the old shingles off. However, there have been
MANY successful installs of a second layer of shingles when conditions allow
it.

How much will you save? If it is a few percent of the job cost, rip it off.

On 6 Mar 2007 16:00:08 -0800, "Beryl"
wrote:

When I was a kid, when we needed a roof my dad would put a second
course of shingles over the first, if the plywood was good. Never
more than two courses of shingles. Now I need a new roof, and all the
estimates I get are from contractors who want to rip off the single
course of shingles I have and put new felt, etc. Is there any decent
recent for this, or are they just trying to make extra money?

Thanks
KM


IMHO,

It can be assumed, more work means more money. So you might take it
all with a grain of salt at first. I would suggest that you call your
local codes office, and find out if two layers are allowed?

Just a guess.....

tom @ www.MeetANewFriend.com