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edee em January 26th 07 02:51 PM

Sunken family room
 
I have a sunken family room (by design). On one of the exterior walls I am
getting a lot of cold air either convecting or blowing in. I am kind of
confused as to the sources as I recently completed my basement and insulated
the joist cavities at the rim joist pretty well (foam insulation glued to
the rim joist).

I am thinking that perhaps the design of the sunken floor has left a cold
zone that I didn't see at the time and therefore didn't insulate.

Anyone have any experience with framing a sunken floor that might give me
some insight as to what to look for. From what I can see/remember, the
foundation wall is the same height all around the house meaning that they
didn't lower the foundation to create the sunken family room.

Looking forward to your thoughts...

--
Edee Em
I know the truth is out there, but I like to stay in....



terry January 26th 07 06:42 PM

Sunken family room
 


On Jan 26, 11:51 am, "edee em" wrote:
I have a sunken family room (by design). On one of the exterior walls I am
getting a lot of cold air either convecting or blowing in. I am kind of
confused as to the sources as I recently completed my basement and insulated
the joist cavities at the rim joist pretty well (foam insulation glued to
the rim joist).

I am thinking that perhaps the design of the sunken floor has left a cold
zone that I didn't see at the time and therefore didn't insulate.

Anyone have any experience with framing a sunken floor that might give me
some insight as to what to look for. From what I can see/remember, the
foundation wall is the same height all around the house meaning that they
didn't lower the foundation to create the sunken family room.

Looking forward to your thoughts...

--
Edee Em
I know the truth is out there, but I like to stay in....

..
Cold air sinks.


edee em January 26th 07 07:06 PM

Sunken family room
 
Let me guess... you're favourite book is The DaVinci Code???


"terry" wrote in message
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On Jan 26, 11:51 am, "edee em" wrote:
I have a sunken family room (by design). On one of the exterior walls I
am
getting a lot of cold air either convecting or blowing in. I am kind of
confused as to the sources as I recently completed my basement and
insulated
the joist cavities at the rim joist pretty well (foam insulation glued to
the rim joist).

I am thinking that perhaps the design of the sunken floor has left a cold
zone that I didn't see at the time and therefore didn't insulate.

Anyone have any experience with framing a sunken floor that might give me
some insight as to what to look for. From what I can see/remember, the
foundation wall is the same height all around the house meaning that they
didn't lower the foundation to create the sunken family room.

Looking forward to your thoughts...

--
Edee Em
I know the truth is out there, but I like to stay in....

.
Cold air sinks.




DanG January 26th 07 11:32 PM

Sunken family room
 
I think what Terry was trying to tell you is that cold air falls
and feels like a draft. Do you have large expanses of glass on
the outside wall? The draft effect will be even more noticeable
if you have a fire place in the equation as it constantly pulls
inside air and sends it up the chimney. Is there a basement under
the sunken living room? I would consider that a bit unusual. How
sunken? 2 risers would be about 14-15 ".

If my guesses fit, there are several things to consider:
thermal full length curtains
better windows
provide alternate combustion air to fireplace
digging down and insulating the exterior of the footing, but this
will demand more study.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
A live Singing Valentine quartet,
a sophisticated and elegant way to say I LOVE YOU!
(local)
http://www.singingvalentines.com/ (national)


"edee em" wrote in message
...
I have a sunken family room (by design). On one of the exterior
walls I am getting a lot of cold air either convecting or blowing
in. I am kind of confused as to the sources as I recently
completed my basement and insulated the joist cavities at the rim
joist pretty well (foam insulation glued to the rim joist).

I am thinking that perhaps the design of the sunken floor has
left a cold zone that I didn't see at the time and therefore
didn't insulate.

Anyone have any experience with framing a sunken floor that
might give me some insight as to what to look for. From what I
can see/remember, the foundation wall is the same height all
around the house meaning that they didn't lower the foundation
to create the sunken family room.

Looking forward to your thoughts...

--
Edee Em
I know the truth is out there, but I like to stay in....




edee em January 27th 07 07:09 PM

Sunken family room
 
I see what you are saying: let me clarify. I understand that cold air
falls but the cold I'm feeling is beyond a feeling of cold air falling. The
walls are very cold at the bottom as if the air was coming in through the
sill plate.

The wall I'm talking about does have a window on it and the fireplace is
on another wall but it is blocked off (had the chimney capped a few years
back). The cold air I'm feeling is more pronounced at the bottom of the
wall in question as if it were coming in from the sill plate. The
electrical outlet on the wall is very cold.

The room is sunken one riser (about 7"). And, yes, there is a basement
below. But as I mentioned I finished the basement and that part of the
remodel is a bathroom with insulation in the ceiling and the rim joist
insulate very tightly with rigid foam.

Thoughts?

Thanks

"DanG" wrote in message
...
I think what Terry was trying to tell you is that cold air falls and feels
like a draft. Do you have large expanses of glass on the outside wall?
The draft effect will be even more noticeable if you have a fire place in
the equation as it constantly pulls inside air and sends it up the chimney.
Is there a basement under the sunken living room? I would consider that a
bit unusual. How sunken? 2 risers would be about 14-15 ".

If my guesses fit, there are several things to consider:
thermal full length curtains
better windows
provide alternate combustion air to fireplace
digging down and insulating the exterior of the footing, but this will
demand more study.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
A live Singing Valentine quartet,
a sophisticated and elegant way to say I LOVE YOU!
(local)
http://www.singingvalentines.com/ (national)


"edee em" wrote in message
...
I have a sunken family room (by design). On one of the exterior walls I
am getting a lot of cold air either convecting or blowing in. I am kind
of confused as to the sources as I recently completed my basement and
insulated the joist cavities at the rim joist pretty well (foam insulation
glued to the rim joist).

I am thinking that perhaps the design of the sunken floor has left a cold
zone that I didn't see at the time and therefore didn't insulate.

Anyone have any experience with framing a sunken floor that might give me
some insight as to what to look for. From what I can see/remember, the
foundation wall is the same height all around the house meaning that they
didn't lower the foundation to create the sunken family room.

Looking forward to your thoughts...

--
Edee Em
I know the truth is out there, but I like to stay in....







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