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basic question about HID lamps and power issues
Solar Flare wrote:
Capacitive reactance is lower to higher frequencies... How does that work? I thought they could only reduce IV phase angles. Power Factor correction capacitors can help absorb some of the harmonics. Interesting. I wonder how to calculate the power factor improvement for, say, a 4.7 uF cap in parallel with a 150 watt 277 V load with a 10% 3rd harmonic distortion. The first step might be to calculate the original power factor, with no cap. This seems different and more promising: https://www.galco.com/circuit/PFCC_har.htm Harmonic currents can be significantly reduced in an electrical system by using a harmonic filter. In its basic form, a filter consists of a capacitor connected in series with a reactor tuned to a specific harmonic frequency. In theory, the impedance of the filter is zero at the tuning frequency; therefore, the harmonic current is absorbed by the filter. This, together with the natural resistance of the circuit, means that only a small level of harmonic current will flow in the network. A 600 Hz filter might help a power supply that clips 10% of an 60 Hz peak. Nick |
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Notch filters are always good selective units. Our problem is
filtering 10MW ++ loads full of harmonics. That is a lot of heat to disapate. hmmmmmm... building heat in the winter and hot water? Why bother when tons of heat is thrown away in the main transformers via cooling fans and pumps. Trouble is the utility buldings run metered in with the big bulk of the consumers and is not apparent to anybody in the utility. **SIGH** wrote in message ... Solar Flare wrote: Capacitive reactance is lower to higher frequencies... How does that work? I thought they could only reduce IV phase angles. Power Factor correction capacitors can help absorb some of the harmonics. Interesting. I wonder how to calculate the power factor improvement for, say, a 4.7 uF cap in parallel with a 150 watt 277 V load with a 10% 3rd harmonic distortion. The first step might be to calculate the original power factor, with no cap. This seems different and more promising: https://www.galco.com/circuit/PFCC_har.htm Harmonic currents can be significantly reduced in an electrical system by using a harmonic filter. In its basic form, a filter consists of a capacitor connected in series with a reactor tuned to a specific harmonic frequency. In theory, the impedance of the filter is zero at the tuning frequency; therefore, the harmonic current is absorbed by the filter. This, together with the natural resistance of the circuit, means that only a small level of harmonic current will flow in the network. A 600 Hz filter might help a power supply that clips 10% of an 60 Hz peak. Nick |
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basic question about HID lamps and power issues
Solar Flare wrote:
Notch filters are always good selective units... The R in these series RLC circuts broadens the notch and uses real power. How much would a 4.7 uF cap in parallel with a 150 watt 277 V load with a 10% 3rd harmonic distortion raise the power factor? With 1/(377C) = 564 ohms at 60 Hz and 277 V and L = 1/((2Pi180)^2x4.7x10^-6) = 0.166 henrys in series to resonate at 180 Hz, limiting 60 Hz ripple current requires Z = sqr(R^2+(wL-1/(wC)^2) = 564, ie R^2+(377x0.166-564)^2 = 564^2, ie R = sqr(564^2-251291) = 258 ohms. With how many real watts? How much would that raise the power factor? Nick |
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Man, you're pushing my math skills here. I used to gobble this stuff
for breakfast nut now I'm not even sure I could do it with a Geritol injection...LOL wrote in message ... Solar Flare wrote: Notch filters are always good selective units... The R in these series RLC circuts broadens the notch and uses real power. How much would a 4.7 uF cap in parallel with a 150 watt 277 V load with a 10% 3rd harmonic distortion raise the power factor? With 1/(377C) = 564 ohms at 60 Hz and 277 V and L = 1/((2Pi180)^2x4.7x10^-6) = 0.166 henrys in series to resonate at 180 Hz, limiting 60 Hz ripple current requires Z = sqr(R^2+(wL-1/(wC)^2) = 564, ie R^2+(377x0.166-564)^2 = 564^2, ie R = sqr(564^2-251291) = 258 ohms. With how many real watts? How much would that raise the power factor? Nick |
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