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JackWalla December 3rd 06 01:14 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
Hi there- I have a new oven I plan on hard wiring to existing three
wire 240 amp outlet. The new wiring has four wires and wiring
instructions give several options for wiring:


B. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO THE
NUETRAL(WHITE)SUPPLY WIRE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT

1. Connect the green and white appliance wires to the
nuetral(white)supply wire in the junction box.

2. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) power supply
wire in the junction box.

3. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) power supply wire
in the junction box.


OR

C. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO A GROUNDED SUPPLY WIRE OR A
GROUNDED COLD WATER PIPE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT.

1. seperate the green and white appliance wires

2. Connect the white appliance wire to the neutral(white)supply wire
in the junction box.

3. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) supply wire in
the junction box.

4. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) supply wire in the
junction box.

5. Connect the green appliance wire to a grounded supply wire in
the junction box or to a grounded cold water pipe.

6. If connecting to a grounded cold water pipe , a seperate copper
grounding wire(No. 10 min.) must be connected to a grounded cold water
pipe by means of a clamp and then to an external grounding connector
screw.


My question is the outlet has only red, black and white wires(three
wire). Is it safe to use step b for hard wiring regardless of local
code? Any help would be appreciated.


Don Fearn December 3rd 06 01:54 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
I think it was "JackWalla" who stated:


My question is the outlet has only red, black and white wires(three
wire). Is it safe to use step b for hard wiring regardless of local
code? Any help would be appreciated.


Add a green wire and you'll be set. Green goes to the frame of the
oven.
--
"What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman

RBM December 3rd 06 02:18 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
Yes, the NEC allows you to do that for an existing range feeder. Any new
installation would require a four wire feeder



"JackWalla" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi there- I have a new oven I plan on hard wiring to existing three
wire 240 amp outlet. The new wiring has four wires and wiring
instructions give several options for wiring:


B. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO THE
NUETRAL(WHITE)SUPPLY WIRE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT

1. Connect the green and white appliance wires to the
nuetral(white)supply wire in the junction box.

2. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) power supply
wire in the junction box.

3. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) power supply wire
in the junction box.


OR

C. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO A GROUNDED SUPPLY WIRE OR A
GROUNDED COLD WATER PIPE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT.

1. seperate the green and white appliance wires

2. Connect the white appliance wire to the neutral(white)supply wire
in the junction box.

3. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) supply wire in
the junction box.

4. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) supply wire in the
junction box.

5. Connect the green appliance wire to a grounded supply wire in
the junction box or to a grounded cold water pipe.

6. If connecting to a grounded cold water pipe , a seperate copper
grounding wire(No. 10 min.) must be connected to a grounded cold water
pipe by means of a clamp and then to an external grounding connector
screw.


My question is the outlet has only red, black and white wires(three
wire). Is it safe to use step b for hard wiring regardless of local
code? Any help would be appreciated.




HeyBub December 3rd 06 02:50 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
Don Fearn wrote:
"What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman


Did she really say that? To Richard?

I can't imagine why.

Ring, ring.
"Hello..."
"Hello, is this Dr Feynman?"
"Yes..."
"Dr Richard P. Feynman?"
"Yes..."
"Dr Feynman, my name is Joe Smith. I am the United States Ambassador to the
court of King Gustav V of Norway. It is my distinct pleasure to inform you
that you have just won the 1965 Nobel Prize in Physics."
"Do you know what the hell time it is in California?"
"....er, no..."
"It is 3:00 o'clock in the goddamn morning. Call me back after nine!"
click



[email protected] December 3rd 06 03:09 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
I would ADD a green ground wire for safetys sake!


Don Fearn December 3rd 06 03:26 AM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
I think it was "HeyBub" who stated:

Don Fearn wrote:
"What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman


Did she really say that? To Richard?


She did. Read:

http://www.amazon.com/What-Care-Othe.../dp/0553347845

-Don

Joseph Meehan December 3rd 06 01:24 PM

Wiring new oven to old electrical
 
JackWalla wrote:
Hi there- I have a new oven I plan on hard wiring to existing three
wire 240 amp outlet. The new wiring has four wires and wiring
instructions give several options for wiring:


B. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO THE
NUETRAL(WHITE)SUPPLY WIRE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT

1. Connect the green and white appliance wires to the
nuetral(white)supply wire in the junction box.

2. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) power supply
wire in the junction box.

3. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) power supply wire
in the junction box.


OR

C. CONNECTING THE GREEN APPLIANCE WIRE TO A GROUNDED SUPPLY WIRE OR A
GROUNDED COLD WATER PIPE-WHERE LOCAL CODES PERMIT.

1. seperate the green and white appliance wires

2. Connect the white appliance wire to the neutral(white)supply wire
in the junction box.

3. Connect the black appliance wire to the black(l1) supply wire in
the junction box.

4. Connect the red appliance wire to the red(l2) supply wire in the
junction box.

5. Connect the green appliance wire to a grounded supply wire in
the junction box or to a grounded cold water pipe.

6. If connecting to a grounded cold water pipe , a seperate copper
grounding wire(No. 10 min.) must be connected to a grounded cold water
pipe by means of a clamp and then to an external grounding connector
screw.


My question is the outlet has only red, black and white wires(three
wire). Is it safe to use step b for hard wiring regardless of local
code? Any help would be appreciated.


I would add a green wire back to the panel. Yea, it would be a pain.
Yea, it would be safer.

BTW I hope that is a 240 volt outlet not a 240 amp outlet.

If you have not already done it, I suggest you make sure the amps
required by the new equipment do not exceed the breaker or wire size.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit





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