Hello,

I have a kenmore range and the broiler and oven do not heat up 50% of
the time.

The stovetop always works but I get the following symptoms with the
range and broiler half the time:

1. press BAKE

2. no "click" then ignite in the oven or broiler.

3. If I let it sit for an hour or so sometimes it does ignite...

I complained to Sears and they sent me a brand new stove but it has the
same issue. Could it be the wiring in my home?

Any ideas appreciated...

"tfeller" wrote in news:1160364633.771739.261590
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

Hello,

I have a kenmore range and the broiler and oven do not heat up 50% of
the time.

The stovetop always works but I get the following symptoms with the
range and broiler half the time:

1. press BAKE

2. no "click" then ignite in the oven or broiler.

3. If I let it sit for an hour or so sometimes it does ignite...

I complained to Sears and they sent me a brand new stove but it has
the
same issue. Could it be the wiring in my home?

Any ideas appreciated...




Try taking a look at this web page and see if anything sounds familiar:


http://www.appliance411.com/faq/gas_..._systems.shtml



PS.......It's generally a good idea to post the model number of the unit
you are enquiring about. :-)

Thanks,

The model is Kenmore 665 75829000 - does that narrow down the problem?

What really confuses me is that I have the same issue with two stoves...

"tfeller" wrote in news:1160422683.314075.311900
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

Thanks,

The model is Kenmore 665 75829000 - does that narrow down the problem?


The number 665 points the unit being made by Whirlpool for Sears.



What really confuses me is that I have the same issue with two
stoves...



The following is from the website reference I sent you previously:

quote on

Spark Ignition Systems Spark

Conventional

Oven models using a 'conventional' spark ignition system also have an
actual gas pilot but it is not lit all the time. Instead, when the oven
is turned on gas flows to the oven's pilot which is lit via a spark.
Once the pilot is lit, a gas valve senses it and allows gas to flow to
the oven burner where the pilot flame ignites it.

Whirlpool Direct Spark Ignition (DSI)

Whirlpool has introduced a new variation on the spark ignition system.
In this system there is no 'pilot', instead the spark directly ignites
the gas burner (hence the name) and an additional electronic control
monitors its performance.

When the range control calls for either bake or broil, the DSI module
electronically checks both gas valves' solenoids for continuity. If the
checks fail, the module will turn the oven off or lock it out. If the
checks are successful, the module will power the appropriate gas valve
so it can open and also initiate sparking at the burner ignitor. Both
the bake and broil ignitors will spark simultaneously.

If no flame is present at the burner, the DSI module will allow the
ignitor to spark for 4 seconds. A 30 second pause will then occur, after
which time it will attempt to light the burner again. If gas still fails
to ignite, the microcomputer will then lock the system out.

Once gas has ignited, the flame sensing circuitry will monitor the flame
at the burner as long as it is powered to make sure that it is present.
If at any point no flame is detected, the DSI module will lock out the
system.

On such a system the oven will not light for 30 seconds after power is
restored to the appliance. Also, if no ground is found in the power
connection to the range (or just at the DSI control), the oven will
light once but them turn off and be 'locked out'.

Whirlpool's DSI system will likely only be found on Whirlpool's brands
of appliances such as Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Roper and Inglis as well as
some Whirlpool built Kenmore ranges and ovens.


quote off



Web pages related to the above topic:

http://fixitnow.com/2004/09/applianc...elation_17.htm
http://www.applianceaid.com/gas.html#gas-help

The second link has a link to this manual:

http://appliancehelp.hypermart.net/DSI_manual.pdf

This Job Aid, “Whirlpool Gas Range Direct Spark Ignition System,” (Part
No. 8177893), provides the technician with information on the operation
and service of the Direct Spark Ignition System.
It is to be used as a training Job Aid and Service Manual.
The Wiring Diagrams used in this Job Aid are typical and should be used
for training purposes only. Always use the Wiring Diagrams supplied with
the product when servicing the unit.


Hope this helps.... :-)

On 8 Oct 2006 20:30:33 -0700, "tfeller" wrote:

Hello,

I have a kenmore range and the broiler and oven do not heat up 50% of
the time.

The stovetop always works but I get the following symptoms with the
range and broiler half the time:

1. press BAKE

2. no "click" then ignite in the oven or broiler.

3. If I let it sit for an hour or so sometimes it does ignite...

I complained to Sears and they sent me a brand new stove but it has the

They didn't try to fix the one you have? Was this brand new at the
time?

same issue. Could it be the wiring in my home?

Any ideas appreciated...

Yes, it was brand new at the time.


mm wrote:
On 8 Oct 2006 20:30:33 -0700, "tfeller" wrote:

Hello,

I have a kenmore range and the broiler and oven do not heat up 50% of
the time.

The stovetop always works but I get the following symptoms with the
range and broiler half the time:

1. press BAKE

2. no "click" then ignite in the oven or broiler.

3. If I let it sit for an hour or so sometimes it does ignite...

I complained to Sears and they sent me a brand new stove but it has the

They didn't try to fix the one you have? Was this brand new at the
time?

same issue. Could it be the wiring in my home?

Any ideas appreciated...